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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2004 14:13:46 GMT 1
I've mentioned my dislike of this guy a few times in the past but his prefromance on Sat really put me over the edge. Here's why I've seen buses with better turning circles than that guy. He critises other palyers for failing to cover for his mistakes (ie Howie) Poor clearances Overweight Dose'nt give a cr@p about the club-just look at his article on Sat 'I have'nt seen the replay on the Chester penalty yet'. Also he never appeals about decisions-look at O'connor he's always sounding off. Little or no influence on the pitch, poor organiser. Not Shrewsbury Town-this is just another job to him a captain should know the club, its history, its fans and what is expected. Half-heartedly appaulds Town fans after each game and constantly mentions in the press how 'the fans need to get behind the team'. GIVE US SOMETHING WORTH CHEERING ABOUT FIRST! I don't mind (too much) watching Town lose to superior opposition but on Saturday it looked as though half the team didn't give a cr@p-PATHETIC!  Too negative how many times this season have we seen Tinson and several other players standing on the halfway line for Town corners. Saturday we had 3 back marking no-one! No wonder we don't score from set pieces theres noone in the box O'connor/Stitch MUST be made captain ASAP!!! Both of them are far more influencial on the pitch. O'connor has more experience & is a better organiser and Stitch was probably on e of the best captains Town have had in the last 5/6 years. Tinson is a postman he dosen't make himself heard as much as he should-in my view he's not fit to hold down a first team place and CERTAINLY not fit to be captain! I just feel that with Tinson as captain were at a disadvantage!!! |
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Post by OldGit on Dec 20, 2004 15:49:51 GMT 1
Bit harsh?
Overweight? compared to Matty redmile he's anorexic.
Turning Circles? he's pretty agile, just not that fleet footed anymore.
Clearances - yes they do leave a bit to be desired
Gives a cr@p? Ask his dad - he'll tell you that Tinno would die for us if he had to.
Influence on the Pitch? Our midfield sucks - they put the back 4 under too much pressure and don't get the ball to Luke and Kelvin nearly enough - not sure what Tinno can do about that?
Not Shrewsbury? Well, most of them aren't. He is a working pro who gives his best.
Half hearted applause - at least he makes the effort.
Positioning for corners? I'd put money on him being exactly where GP tells him to be.
Tinno has "aged" quite quickly since last season, hardly surprising given the step up in league and problems besetting the side. I agree that Stitch may hold the key to the future, but that is GP's decision. Meantime, if GP says Tinno is Captain and keeps picking him, we owe it to Tinno, GP and the lads to get behind them.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2004 15:55:35 GMT 1
Tinno did a good job for us last season but he seems to be well past his best. His performances this season have not been too impressive, but I suppose that can be said of every other player. Some of his clearances are terrible and I would also question his positioning (and everyone elses) when defending corners. He loses too many 50/50 headers for my liking.
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Post by rob on Dec 20, 2004 16:09:10 GMT 1
Maybe he stands on the halfway line with three two other defenders because with a midfield incapable of making a tackle we are always suceptable to quick break aways....
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Post by SeanBroseley on Dec 20, 2004 16:39:22 GMT 1
I didn't see anything on Saturday that marked him out as someone who was any less up for the job than anyone else who turned up to "play".
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Post by The Shropshire Tenor on Dec 20, 2004 19:22:16 GMT 1
Why pick on Tinno? Name any one in the back four (or midfield) who distributes the ball well.
As for being slow, so is Walton and on the evidence of Saturday, Burns. At least Tinno anticipates and positions himself well. Unlike his colleagues he can time a tackle and rarely picks up a yellow card.
The only thing I'd agree with Taffy on is that he does not seen to be the most inspirational captain.
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Post by john on Dec 20, 2004 19:29:16 GMT 1
What p**ses me off about the bloke is he still seems to have a problem with Howie, refusing to pass back to him on saturday and trying to dribble his way out was poor....very poor.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2004 19:30:46 GMT 1
A good point by Campo, Tinno has only been booked twice in 61 games for the club.
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Post by Parker on Dec 20, 2004 19:38:18 GMT 1
I didn't see anything on Saturday that marked him out as someone who was any less up for the job than anyone else who turned up to "play". But surely thats the problem. As captain he should be up for the job and its up to him on the pitch to gee up the rest of the lads. Taffy, have to say I agree with alot of what you say. He was good last season, but that was last season. This is league football and he is a year older. Too slow. No left foot. No leadership. |
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Dec 20, 2004 23:55:52 GMT 1
Taffy, have to say I agree with alot of what you say. . I don't.I think most of it is b*ll*cks. Best post is the one by OldGit-far more sense |
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Post by Pilch on Dec 21, 2004 9:59:42 GMT 1
its a bit harsh all you had to say was he's getting on a bit and isn't as quick as he used to be his first choice playingdays may be numbered but as long as we have idiots in the team who reguarly require 3 weeks off then he may play until he is older than quinny  |
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Dec 21, 2004 11:06:22 GMT 1
its a bit harsh all you had to say was he's getting on a bit and isn't as quick as he used to be his first choice playingdays may be numbered but as long as we have idiots in the team who reguarly require 3 weeks off then he may play until he is older than quinny  Tinno is not perfect, but he is a proud man, proud to play for our club, and he has not let us down There are better players than him at the club who regularly perform worse Tinson may not be good enough, and it is 50/50 just now, but criticism of his commitment or character is massively out of order |
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Post by islay malt on Dec 21, 2004 11:48:54 GMT 1
He clearly has a good head and his experience shines through at the level he's playing. I've seen him several times in the past and, like Saturday, he's always been fully committed. To suggest "he's not fit to hold down a first team place" with the squad you currently have available, is quite frankly, laughable.
In my humble oppinion, of course.
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Post by Dale on Dec 21, 2004 12:54:52 GMT 1
Half-heartedly appaulds Town fans after each game Taffy my friend, I agree in the sense that Tinno probably needs to be dropped, I want to see a Walton-Whitehead partnership, I also find it baffling that whenever a Town player is about to go in the book its always O'Connor who protests the offending player's innocence to the ref and not Tinno? Jemmo also always did this when he was captain. But I disagree with you in the bit when you say 'half heartedly applauds the fans off', after home games he applauds all three home sides of the ground and is usually the last man down the tunnel, the same usually applies with away games, dont say you havent noticed this young Taff  |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2004 13:58:17 GMT 1
the same usually applies with away games, dont say you havent noticed this young Taff Recently, by the time the final whistle goes were in the car on the way home (not sure whether to use a  or a  ) You and me were halfway to Sheffield by the time the final whistle went at Scunny |
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Post by mattm on Dec 21, 2004 14:41:47 GMT 1
As other people have said Tinson is struggling with his game this season, which I think is effecting his ability to lead the side. Tinson is ok a recognising the fans when we play well but he does go missing when we have lost badly (Telford last season and Histon this year) which I don't think is a good quality for a team captain to have.
Having said that there is a distinct lack of leadership anywhere on the field, except when O'Connor plays the midfield and strikers rarely talk to each other during the match and no one seems to organise the team at set pieces.
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Post by watfordshrew on Dec 21, 2004 15:01:23 GMT 1
Maybe he feels that he is better employed organising the defence for the resulting free kick rather than being caught thirty or forty yards upfield. That sort of thing (protesting) is always better off left with forward players.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2004 16:55:57 GMT 1
I'd have thought protesting is something nobody in the team needs to be doing. What does it achieve other than the odd yellow card for MOC?
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Post by ssshrew on Dec 21, 2004 17:33:09 GMT 1
IMHO Darren Tinson is a good captain, totally reliable, a good organiser and I definitely agree with Watford Shrew. He sees his job to organise the team not argue with a ref who will never change his mind.
I'll admit I thought he had a bad game on Saturday but so did the others - no excuse I know. But he is a good captain and a credit to the Club.
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Post by watfordshrew on Dec 21, 2004 18:48:18 GMT 1
Fair point.
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