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Post by davycrockett on Mar 8, 2022 11:07:41 GMT 1
We do have a little more wind power each day, a little more hydro power from a project up in Scotland. We don't use much Russian gas, only about 10% of our oil comes from Russia. We can manage without Russian oil and gas. Wheat from the Ukraine is another matter... The problem is many country’s did rely on Russia for Oil and Gas and they’ll now be shopping in the same markets as we are…. Is there enough to go round without the Russian supplies? Renewables are growing but the area we haven’t invested enough in is nuclear with half the existing power stations due to be decommissioned in 3 years and only one under construction. |
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Post by martinshrew on Mar 8, 2022 11:37:40 GMT 1
Boris mentioned yesterday a review currently underway looking at renewables inc. nuclear for future energy security…. A bit late It's arguably a couple of decades late. |
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Post by Mortgagehound on Mar 8, 2022 12:12:15 GMT 1
Shell announces that it will shut all petrol stations in Russia and no longer buy Ruski Gas and Oil.
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Post by martinshrew on Mar 8, 2022 12:42:47 GMT 1
Shell announces that it will shut all petrol stations in Russia and no longer buy Ruski Gas and Oil. A week after buying a discount cargo load. Too little, too late. BOYCOTT. |
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Post by Pilch on Mar 8, 2022 12:48:47 GMT 1
Shell announces that it will shut all petrol stations in Russia and no longer buy Ruski Gas and Oil. It was my post on b&a that did it 😜 |
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Post by staffordshrew on Mar 8, 2022 12:57:43 GMT 1
Shell announces that it will shut all petrol stations in Russia and no longer buy Ruski Gas and Oil. A week after buying a discount cargo load. Too little, too late. BOYCOTT. "Shell plc (Shell) today announced its intent to withdraw from its involvement in all Russian hydrocarbons, including crude oil, petroleum products, gas and liquefied natural gas (LNG) in a phased manner, aligned with new government guidance. As an immediate first step, the company will stop all spot purchases of Russian crude oil. It will also shut its service stations, aviation fuels and lubricants operations in Russia".
If the petrol is any cheaper than other stations they get my business - all oil companies get some of the stuff from some pretty murky places.
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Mar 8, 2022 13:08:35 GMT 1
Shell announces that it will shut all petrol stations in Russia and no longer buy Ruski Gas and Oil. A week after buying a discount cargo load. Too little, too late. BOYCOTT. I've long boycotted Shell stations. Long before all this they have been well more expensive than most others in the area. Now they have taken the greed to another level. |
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Post by davycrockett on Mar 8, 2022 14:37:21 GMT 1
It right that we’re taking the moral stance against oil and gas from Russia but is it sustainable? Haven’t researched it but don’t Germany and other European countries rely more than us? A complete boycott from all western countries could result in petrol and energy shortages.
Would we be happy if supplies of petrol and energy are disrupted resulting in power cuts and petrol rationing?
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Post by martinshrew on Mar 8, 2022 14:40:20 GMT 1
It right that we’re taking the moral stance against oil and gas from Russia but is it sustainable? Haven’t researched it but don’t Germany and other European countries rely more than us? A complete boycott from all western countries could result in petrol and energy shortages. Would we be happy if supplies of petrol and energy are disrupted resulting in power cuts and petrol rationing? I guess we'd have to understand how real this prospect is. I'm giving McDs, KFC, Starbucks, CocaCola & Pepsi until Friday to withdraw operations in Russia or they'll be on my boycott list. |
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Post by Dancin on Mar 8, 2022 14:41:58 GMT 1
Won't be long until panic buying and fuel shortages again?!
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Post by Worthingshrew on Mar 8, 2022 14:52:40 GMT 1
It right that we’re taking the moral stance against oil and gas from Russia but is it sustainable? Haven’t researched it but don’t Germany and other European countries rely more than us? A complete boycott from all western countries could result in petrol and energy shortages. Would we be happy if supplies of petrol and energy are disrupted resulting in power cuts and petrol rationing? The inconvenience and disruption is absolutely nothing compared to the sufferings of the Ukrainians, and the assistance that countries like Poland are providing, so I would hope that we are ready to take some of the pain. |
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Mar 8, 2022 15:46:11 GMT 1
We do have a little more wind power each day, a little more hydro power from a project up in Scotland. We don't use much Russian gas, only about 10% of our oil comes from Russia. We can manage without Russian oil and gas. Wheat from the Ukraine is another matter... The problem is many country’s did rely on Russia for Oil and Gas and they’ll now be shopping in the same markets as we are…. Is there enough to go round without the Russian supplies? Renewables are growing but the area we haven’t invested enough in is nuclear with half the existing power stations due to be decommissioned in 3 years and only one under construction. That's exactly what is happening already, those who buy loads from Russia are looking to buy from the alternative markets that we buy from causing prices to rise hugely. I know someone who is in the LPG bottle gas industry as a distributor and his suppliers are not imposing a 'price rise' as such at present as they expect prices to be voltile for some time. Instead they are adding a surcharge that will be reviewed each week. I'm guessing they think it could still go up again and that at some point it might come down as well. A large 47kg bottle of propane (as used on caravan parks and people living off the natural gas grid, often getting through 2or3 bottles per month in the winter for heating) was around £75 each. This weeks surcharge will add £15 to that (20% or thereabouts) so another £30-45 (£150/225 plus another £30/45 on top) to each customer at a stroke. Eventually it might stabilise a bit and they will add a proper price increase. The cost of bulk LPG went up £150 per tonne last week as well. He also sells coal. Now this isnt as it comes from underground, it gets processed so it is bette/more smoke friendly/etc. And of course you've guessed it, it gets processed with something that comes from oil.......That has gone up £100 per tonne. |
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Post by Pilch on Mar 8, 2022 17:04:26 GMT 1
Won't be long until panic buying and fuel shortages again?! I noticed there was a fair queue at sainsburys earlier about 1:30pm back as far as the inner island ( about 15-20 cars queueing and all bases loaded ) |
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Post by zenfootball2 on Mar 8, 2022 17:20:32 GMT 1
Won't be long until panic buying and fuel shortages again?! I noticed there was a fair queue at sainsburys earlier about 1:30pm back as far as the inner island ( about 15-20 cars queueing and all bases loaded ) just seen the uk are set to ban oil imports from russia with speculation of another big hike in prices which makes no sense to me as we dont import very much russian oil, so why the price rise? |
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Mar 8, 2022 17:39:39 GMT 1
I noticed there was a fair queue at sainsburys earlier about 1:30pm back as far as the inner island ( about 15-20 cars queueing and all bases loaded ) just seen the uk are set to ban oil imports from russia with speculation of another big hike in prices which makes no sense to me as we dont import very much russian oil, so why the price rise? Demand shifts to other oil producing countries. They try to make as much profit as they can and have concerns about how they can supply the demand. Supply and demand, always pushes the prices up. It's no different with the gas. There is too much demand so nothing to compete and bring the prices down. (Of course we will always have the greedy forecourts that feel they can charge pretty much what they want at the minute adding more than a normal profit no doubt) 🤬 |
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Post by South Stand Salopian on Mar 8, 2022 19:02:21 GMT 1
Apple Green Church Stretton, usually no more than 2p dearer than Sainsburys was £1.539 for petrol this morning when I drove past 🤮 Think we should expect all filling up stations in Shrewsbury to be at least £1.50 a litre of petrol this week unfortunately. Good job I filled my tank at Sainsburys at £1.459 on Saturday. This is where I usually go. I drove past here twice within about 90 mins on Saturday and during that time Unleaded had increased by 7p a litre! Similar experience for me today top monner. As of about half an hour ago unleaded was 159.8p (a 13p increase from Saturday morning) and diesel was 166.8p! I’m officially boycotting it for now. I don’t mind paying 2p a litre more to pump up there if it’s convenient for me but this takes the biscuit. Sainsburys is still 145.9p so would save 14p a litre, would save me more than £5 to fill up 36 litres. |
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Post by South Stand Salopian on Mar 8, 2022 19:32:26 GMT 1
It right that we’re taking the moral stance against oil and gas from Russia but is it sustainable? Haven’t researched it but don’t Germany and other European countries rely more than us? A complete boycott from all western countries could result in petrol and energy shortages. Would we be happy if supplies of petrol and energy are disrupted resulting in power cuts and petrol rationing? I guess we'd have to understand how real this prospect is. I'm giving McDs, KFC, Starbucks, CocaCola & Pepsi until Friday to withdraw operations in Russia or they'll be on my boycott list. McDonald's has said all 850 of its restaurants in Russia will close but it will continue to pay the 62,000 people who work for them there. news.sky.com/story/mcdonalds-kfc-and-coca-cola-face-boycott-threats-for-not-halting-operations-in-russia-amid-ukraine-war-12560435 |
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Post by martinshrew on Mar 8, 2022 19:37:35 GMT 1
It's seems me being such a fat barsteward has single handedly helped! |
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Post by Pilch on Mar 8, 2022 19:37:39 GMT 1
I noticed there was a fair queue at sainsburys earlier about 1:30pm back as far as the inner island ( about 15-20 cars queueing and all bases loaded ) just seen the uk are set to ban oil imports from russia with speculation of another big hike in prices which makes no sense to me as we dont import very much russian oil, so why the price rise? there was a good explanation on radio 5 this morning it was along the lines of everyone pays the same price for oil no matter where you get it from ( excluding russia ) and prices are going up due to the demand and profiteering |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2022 19:48:26 GMT 1
Been working in Sheffield today and stopped off at Costco to fill up. Premium diesel was £1.49 a litre. That £18 a year membership is paying itself nicely. That’s more than Sainsbury’s in Shrewsbury (only a bit) 😉 For diesel or premium diesel? |
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Mar 8, 2022 20:31:34 GMT 1
It would seem only fair to continue paying the staff. They shouldnt be without pay due to the west putting sanctions on the country. I'm sure most of them are against what their leader is doing. |
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Post by martinshrew on Mar 8, 2022 20:43:02 GMT 1
It would seem only fair to continue paying the staff. They shouldnt be without pay due to the west putting sanctions on the country. I'm sure most of them are against what their leader is doing. Most will be young so I'd think so. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2022 20:55:33 GMT 1
Filled up in Esso (Tesco) Kingswinford today. £1.609/litre.
Whilst I was paying, I heard the manager say "no more pump authorisations"
When I was walking out they put the price up to £1.679p/litre. For the same fuel that was in the tanks when I bought it.
Wrong.
When I asked (politely) I was told it was an Esso Head office instruction.
We are being ripped off
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Post by Pilch on Mar 8, 2022 22:22:48 GMT 1
I just called into sainsburys and got some diesel
half their pumps have no diesel left but a tanker was just pulling up as I was there
£152.9
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Post by cmonsalop on Mar 9, 2022 0:09:20 GMT 1
Esso £164.9 in Pewsey, Wiltshire this afternoon up by 3 pence/litre on earlier today and that's usually one of the cheaper ones around here.
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Post by davycrockett on Mar 9, 2022 8:54:04 GMT 1
Filled up at Morrisons after Pilch’s tip off about queue’s, £1:56.9 diesel over £100 to fill up for the first time 😩
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Post by davycrockett on Mar 9, 2022 10:21:03 GMT 1
Shell announces that it will shut all petrol stations in Russia and no longer buy Ruski Gas and Oil. A week after buying a discount cargo load. Too little, too late. BOYCOTT. Are you boycotting all UK petrol cos it could well be from Russia still…. “The UK will phase out imports of Russian oil in response to Vladimir Putin’s illegal invasion of Ukraine by the end of the year.” |
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Post by davycrockett on Mar 9, 2022 10:22:04 GMT 1
I noticed there was a fair queue at sainsburys earlier about 1:30pm back as far as the inner island ( about 15-20 cars queueing and all bases loaded ) just seen the uk are set to ban oil imports from russia with speculation of another big hike in prices which makes no sense to me as we dont import very much russian oil, so why the price rise? The UK will phase out imports of Russian oil in response to Vladimir Putin’s illegal invasion of Ukraine by the end of the year. Is that quick enough? |
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Post by zenfootball2 on Mar 9, 2022 10:22:40 GMT 1
just seen the uk are set to ban oil imports from russia with speculation of another big hike in prices which makes no sense to me as we dont import very much russian oil, so why the price rise? Demand shifts to other oil producing countries. They try to make as much profit as they can and have concerns about how they can supply the demand. Supply and demand, always pushes the prices up. It's no different with the gas. There is too much demand so nothing to compete and bring the prices down. (Of course we will always have the greedy forecourts that feel they can charge pretty much what they want at the minute adding more than a normal profit no doubt) 🤬  |
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Post by martinshrew on Mar 9, 2022 11:28:21 GMT 1
just seen the uk are set to ban oil imports from russia with speculation of another big hike in prices which makes no sense to me as we dont import very much russian oil, so why the price rise? The UK will phase out imports of Russian oil in response to Vladimir Putin’s illegal invasion of Ukraine by the end of the year. Is that quick enough? I think it's difficult to do overnight to be fair. |
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