Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2021 10:36:46 GMT 1
The shallowest of people living in the shallowest of places and surrounding herself with the shallowest of friends - Welcome to Hollywood and California Harry. You are, of course, aware of her achievements? And, if we want to talk about being 'shallow' we need look no further than the circus that's the Royal Family.
|
|
|
Post by ssshrew on Mar 8, 2021 10:37:58 GMT 1
Just remember - she is an actress so will know exactly how to react to a camera.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2021 10:42:45 GMT 1
Just remember - she is an actress so will know exactly how to react to a camera. The Royal Family are media trained too.
|
|
|
Post by ssshrew on Mar 8, 2021 10:45:32 GMT 1
But they don’t give ‘heart rending’ interviews and they are nit trained to act according to the role they are playing.
|
|
|
Post by northwestman on Mar 8, 2021 10:50:11 GMT 1
Those already doubting whether there would ever be any way back into the royal fold had their worst suspicions confirmed when Meghan accused the Royal family, their staff and the British press of being, well, outright racists.
Not only had Archie been denied a title and his own security detail - but an extraordinary conversation had also taken place behind palace gates about how dark his skin might be when he was born.
Harry was later invited to expand on the issue but declined to do so, leaving the viewer guessing as to who the hell came out with this.
Meghan said: “Those were conversations family had with him,” but Harry refused to elaborate. The unfortunate inference was that Prince Philip may have put his foot in his mouth again, while the 99-year-old was in his hospital bed 5,400 miles away.
Or perhaps it was the wearer of “racist” brooches, Princess Michael of Kent? As we are never likely to know, we may as well consider them all white supremacists along with any journalist who has ever written anything vaguely negative about them.
However, the couple were keen to reiterate how much respect they had for the 94-year-old Queen as they trashed her family and everything she has stood for during her 68 years on the throne.
Daily Telegraph.
|
|
|
Post by zenfootball2 on Mar 8, 2021 11:15:08 GMT 1
the two things that are disturbing is the alegations of racisim and the alegations of not been given any support when she felt suicidel, for some who had reputation for been tough it was rather puzzling that oprah, did not ask ; who said it,when did they say it, what exactly did they say and who was present when they said it , with the second issue who did she ask for help, what did she say, and was anyone present.
as for funding been cut off ,harrys was left $13 million from his mum, prince charles was paying him £2 million a year and helped with the purchase of there house and only stoped funding them after they got $130 million dollar contracts with netflix and spotify.
the issue of no body guards princess annes childre, prince andrews children and prince edwards children dont get any bofyguards unless they are performing somthing that is viewd as a royal duty.
only time will tell how much damage this will do to the royal family, i cant see this helping with realtions between megan& harry and the royal family. im not a fan of airing your dirty linen in public. these issues could have been expolred and hopfully delt with in a more private way, there is no going back from this and who knows how the royal family will respond.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2021 11:16:22 GMT 1
Today’s news, tomorrow’s fish & chip paper
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2021 11:19:26 GMT 1
The shallowest of people living in the shallowest of places and surrounding herself with the shallowest of friends - Welcome to Hollywood and California Harry. You are, of course, aware of her achievements? And, if we want to talk about being 'shallow' we need look no further than the circus that's the Royal Family. Remarkable www.goodhousekeeping.com/life/a48090/meghan-markle-facts/
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2021 11:20:11 GMT 1
“ A Family At War “. Sounds a good title for a great series about a family in turmoil . Great characters too , a man with a shady past , women putting it about with gay abandon , inter racial marriage , brotherly quarrels , hidden children never spoken about , the sniff of unhealthy relationships with a dead “paedo” , Oh the story lines are endless and almost unbelievable. If you thought The Great was good this new film blows it out the water .
Coming to a Cinema near you soon.......
|
|
|
Post by zenfootball2 on Mar 8, 2021 11:20:31 GMT 1
Today’s news, tomorrow’s fish & chip paper im not sure this will go away, the royal family have been acccused of two serious things, i cant see the woke generation or black lives matter supporters letting it drop.
|
|
|
Post by zenfootball2 on Mar 8, 2021 11:21:23 GMT 1
“ A Family At War “. Sounds a good title for a great series about a family in turmoil . Great characters too , a man with a shady past , women putting it about with gay abandon , inter racial marriage , brotherly quarrels , hidden children never spoken about , the sniff of unhealthy relationships with a dead “paedo” , Oh the story lines are endless and almost unbelievable. If you thought The Great was good this new film blows it out the water . Coming to a Cinema near you soon....... netflix will be already have a think of who to cast this in the crown.
|
|
|
Post by staffordshrew on Mar 8, 2021 11:21:44 GMT 1
I don't think the royal family should respond. Many families have wayward members, but they are still family. Sometimes you just have to let them badmouth you and stay serenely silent. Who cares?
|
|
|
Post by harboroughshrew on Mar 8, 2021 11:22:16 GMT 1
I think this row is more about a clash of different cultures more than anything else. As someone who has been happily married to a Canadian woman for over 25 years I think that North Americans dont have that sense of deference to royalty and the upper classes that is drilled into us Brits from an early age. They also have a much stronger self of the worth of individual freedom as opposed to the collective. Meghan should have been better prepared (by her husband if no-one else) for her new life and been made to understand that there is a very definite pecking order in the royal family and that little would be gained by trying to go against this. Meghan and Harry seem to have fallen into the same trap that Diana did in thinking that they could change things too much and are trying to use the press to set up some sort of alternative monarchy. Meghan has some sympathy from me in that she was very much the outsider in this institution but from what I have heard of the interview she does sound rather self-serving and naive and I suspect that will not play too well on this side of the Atlantic. Harry has my respect for his service in the Army and he has chosen to put his wife and children first but little is to be gained (especially for him) from him conducting a war through the press with the institution of the monarchy. Perhaps this is also a time for us as a nation to think about how the monarchy can be adapted (or even if it has run its course in the modern era) so it can be more of a help than a hindrance in making us a fairer and more progressive country.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2021 11:44:49 GMT 1
I was on abut her charity work, advocay and work with the USO. But, if that nonsense you linked to suits your argument then crack on.
|
|
|
Post by shrewder on Mar 8, 2021 11:49:09 GMT 1
As The Palace are unlikely to respond with little detail, we can probably take what was said in the interview with a large pinch of salt. Because? Because we will probably never hear both sides of the story.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2021 12:07:33 GMT 1
Let’s cut to the chase . The Royal Family - the most dysfunctional family in the Country backed up by the “ Establishment “ eager to maintain the status quo for their own ends .
In years to come people will be looking back and thinking how on earth was this allowed to continue in a civilized society when discussions at the time were about equality and fairness . Long to reign over us then it is .
|
|
|
Post by northwestman on Mar 8, 2021 12:14:15 GMT 1
|
|
|
Post by staffordshrew on Mar 8, 2021 12:20:12 GMT 1
Let’s cut to the chase . The Royal Family - the most dysfunctional family in the Country backed up by the “ Establishment “ eager to maintain the status quo for their own ends . In years to come people will be looking back and thinking how on earth was this allowed to continue in a civilized society when discussions at the time were about equality and fairness . Long to reign over us then it is . Where would Netflix be without the Royal Family? No "The Crown".
Eastenders, Coronation Street and the Royal Family: All great "soaps".
It's not the Royal Family we need to worry about, it's the "Establishment".
|
|
|
Post by northwestman on Mar 8, 2021 12:21:24 GMT 1
One thing this guarantees - The Crown will run for another season.
This is gold dust for them.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2021 12:22:51 GMT 1
I think this row is more about a clash of different cultures It's probably a good way of thinking about it, not just the UK v North America but its very much an old fashioned institution existing in the modern world In the past I've been fairly pro monarchy but thats more down to being a traditionalist, however as you grow older and learn more than you do start to question the idea that a group of people hold money & power for no other reason than their bloodline. To me its a bit like religion, every now and again some church leaders will give an opinion on something but in reality their opinion means very little outside a select few. The world has moved on and the monarchies/religion are a reminder of how things used to be run, particularly in this country With regard to the going's on here, this will certainly rumble on and the fact race is at the centre of the story will put the Royal Family under a huge amount of pressure which they won't be able to shrug off with a 'dignified silence'.
|
|
|
Post by cabanas2017 on Mar 8, 2021 12:27:51 GMT 1
It seems to be Harry and Meghan ramping up the publicity with statements, public appearances and unprovable claims. Can I suggest anyone who feels for them and thinks they should be left alone stops listening to the media circus (both sides) and certainly don’t tune into Opera tonight. Just let them go and forget this set up very public fall out. Bang on, I certainly wont be watching and my wife also feels the same way
|
|
|
Post by staffordshrew on Mar 8, 2021 12:57:37 GMT 1
“ A Family At War “. Sounds a good title for a great series about a family in turmoil . Great characters too , a man with a shady past , women putting it about with gay abandon , inter racial marriage , brotherly quarrels , hidden children never spoken about , the sniff of unhealthy relationships with a dead “paedo” , Oh the story lines are endless and almost unbelievable. If you thought The Great was good this new film blows it out the water . Coming to a Cinema near you soon....... netflix will be already have a think of who to cast this in the crown. Here's two ideas: For full on publicity have a white actor blacking up and playing her. Perhaps not. How about: The lady herself, she is, after all, an actor.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2021 13:02:01 GMT 1
Because we will probably never hear both sides of the story. True, though she has been accused of making Kate Middleton cry and bullying a staff member. I guess it works both ways.
|
|
|
Post by Feedo Gnasher on Mar 8, 2021 13:05:29 GMT 1
Even if you don’t have a high opinion of somebody it’s still possible that they can feel racially discriminated against and have mental health struggles. Society is so partisan now that if someone is seen as the ‘villain’ then it becomes open season on them.
Usually enjoy a bit of early morning Piers but he was absolutely intolerable on GMB today.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2021 13:15:57 GMT 1
The Royal Family will survive , it always does . Remember the crowd showing their displeasure toward the Queen when Diana died . She had to appease them and came out on a walkabout to show people she was one with them and shared their grief.Mind you she had to be persuaded to do so . The Royal Family shape shift all the time that’s why they continue to survive , Helped of course by the Establishment who make sure their interests are safe by employing politicians well versed in their policy areas , to their mutual benefit . Strangely the Establishment doesn’t like the State although it is dependent on it . Think bailed out Banks , state funded infrastructure ( HS2) and a workforce educated at great public expense.
The Church of England is part of this Establishment too . Its Bishops sit in the House of Lords making Britain the only Country to have automatically unelected clerics sitting in its legislature . Apart from Iran of course .
This whole episode will blow over as will the Prince Andrew debacle . Too many people with too many vested interests will see to that .
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2021 13:17:54 GMT 1
Even if you don’t have a high opinion of somebody it’s still possible that they can feel racially discriminated against and have mental health struggles. Society is so partisan now that if someone is seen as the ‘villain’ then it becomes open season on them. Usually enjoy a bit of early morning Piers but he was absolutely intolerable on GMB today. People's responses to this have been interesting. Not, just on here, but in the MSM. There's no doubt who is being cast as the villain here, whether that's based on her ethnicity, nationality, or she's a 'commoner', or that she's an actor. It's all the above probably, but the fact she's an intelligent women, who has made her own way in the world and knows her own mind, probably doesn't sit well in certain circles.
|
|
|
Post by servernaside on Mar 8, 2021 13:40:13 GMT 1
It's odd (or maybe not) that the issue of race has become weaponised. In most of the media, race is portrayed as a purely white / black issue, but of course there are thousands of racial and ethnic groups scattered across the globe. Why are all other races ignored in this debate?
With regard to Meghan being 'black'...is she? She doesn't look very black to me...more like someone who has just come back from two weeks on the Costa del Sol. I know she has a black mother, but she also has a white father...why is she therefore considered to be black and not white The same could be said of Barack Obama the so-called first 'black' president of the USA. Sure, he had a black father, but he also had a white mother....why is he therefore considered to be black and not white?
Is it all down to the various shades of skin pigmentation?
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2021 13:52:52 GMT 1
It seems to be Harry and Meghan ramping up the publicity with statements, public appearances and unprovable claims. Can I suggest anyone who feels for them and thinks they should be left alone stops listening to the media circus (both sides) and certainly don’t tune into Opera tonight. Just let them go and forget this set up very public fall out. Bang on, I certainly wont be watching and my wife also feels the same way It will also be the same in our household. I'm just not interested, I'm even avoiding the headlines, as best as I can.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2021 14:08:09 GMT 1
It's odd (or maybe not) that the issue of race has become weaponised. In most of the media, race is portrayed as a purely white / black issue, but of course there are thousands of racial and ethnic groups scattered across the globe. Why are all other races ignored in this debate? With regard to Meghan being 'black'...is she? She doesn't look very black to me...more like someone who has just come back from two weeks on the Costa del Sol. I know she has a black mother, but she also has a white father...why is she therefore considered to be black and not white The same could be said of Barack Obama the so-called first 'black' president of the USA. Sure, he had a black father, but he also had a white mother....why is he therefore considered to be black and not white? Is it all down to the various shades of skin pigmentation? When I read total ballocks like this words fail me . Jesus , is this as far as we have come in the 21st Century .
|
|
|
Post by armchairfan on Mar 8, 2021 14:34:29 GMT 1
It's odd (or maybe not) that the issue of race has become weaponised. In most of the media, race is portrayed as a purely white / black issue, but of course there are thousands of racial and ethnic groups scattered across the globe. Why are all other races ignored in this debate? With regard to Meghan being 'black'...is she? She doesn't look very black to me...more like someone who has just come back from two weeks on the Costa del Sol. I know she has a black mother, but she also has a white father...why is she therefore considered to be black and not white The same could be said of Barack Obama the so-called first 'black' president of the USA. Sure, he had a black father, but he also had a white mother....why is he therefore considered to be black and not white? Is it all down to the various shades of skin pigmentation? When I read total ballocks like this words fail me . Jesus , is this as far as we have come in the 21st Century . Please explain, in your own words, why you believe it to be "total ballocks"..... it isn't exactly an elucidating comment, in isolation.
|
|