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Post by northwestman on Jul 21, 2021 8:18:06 GMT 1
The 100 starts tonight. I trust that all the contributors on this thread will be eagerly watching! It's the women's game. I'll be watching either the darts or the greyhounds instead!
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Post by barrynic on Jul 21, 2021 8:20:20 GMT 1
The 100 starts tonight. I trust that all the contributors on this thread will be eagerly watching! NO...its an abomination.
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Post by welshdan on Jul 21, 2021 8:20:57 GMT 1
The 100 starts tonight. I trust that all the contributors on this thread will be eagerly watching! I may watch it if on somewhere (currently on holiday in Weymouth) I love watching live sport. I find it interesting that it’s there to entice some into cricket who find the longer game boring, but there is so much skill and nuance in a test match about whether to attack or defend, bat time or score quickly, when to declare, see off the new ball, wait for reverse swing to kick in. The Hundred and twenty20 is hit every ball hard. Which I guess makes it exciting for some but really is no thought or tactics to it. Luck plays as much a part as skill, your best player gets one good ball and game can be lost.
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Post by northwestman on Jul 21, 2021 8:45:10 GMT 1
Fortunately, the Tests v India start whilst The Hundred is still running.
August 4th - 1st Test at Trent Bridge. August 12th - 2nd Test at Lords.
The Hundred runs from 21st July to 21st August.
There are fears the Hundred will be affected when it launches on 21 July, with squads unlikely to be in bubbles. It leaves the ECB pondering whether to withdraw Test players from the first 10 days of the tournament to prevent any positive cases impacting the five-match India series that starts on 4 August and is worth £100m in home broadcast revenues. All about money again!
I think I know which type of game most on here will be watching or listening to.
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Post by barrynic on Jul 21, 2021 9:10:25 GMT 1
For me nothing can beat test cricket....it is where the cricketing gods are created.
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Jul 21, 2021 9:21:37 GMT 1
Fortunately, the Tests v India start whilst The Hundred is still running. August 4th - 1st Test at Trent Bridge. August 12th - 2nd Test at Lords. The Hundred runs from 21st July to 21st August. There are fears the Hundred will be affected when it launches on 21 July, with squads unlikely to be in bubbles. It leaves the ECB pondering whether to withdraw Test players from the first 10 days of the tournament to prevent any positive cases impacting the five-match India series that starts on 4 August and is worth £100m in home broadcast revenues. All about money again! I think I know which type of game most on here will be watching or listening to. The ECB confirmed yesterday that the test players will be available for the first two rounds of the 100. A quick browse of the squads does highlight the depth of white ball talent in the English game, shame that it’s at the expense of producing red ball cricketers.
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Post by northwestman on Jul 21, 2021 10:10:33 GMT 1
I guess the Test players have probably deleted their NHS apps then!
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Post by northwestman on Jul 21, 2021 10:38:40 GMT 1
Vuvuzelas. Already banned from football games and the same should surely be the case in cricket matches as well.
The same irritation to viewers as happened in the World Cup in South Africa was provided by the Pakistan supporters.
I'd also be more than happy if I never heard 'Sweet Caroline' again. Seriously over used in darts, football, cricket and goodness knows where else! Inevitably, it will be in the DJ's playlist at the Hundred!
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Jul 21, 2021 10:41:42 GMT 1
Vuvuzelas. Already banned from football games and the same should surely be the case in cricket matches as well. The same irritation to viewers as happened in the World Cup in South Africa was provided by the Pakistan supporters. I'd also be more than happy if I never heard 'Sweet Caroline' again. Seriously over used in darts, football, cricket and goodness knows where else! Inevitably, it will be in the DJ's playlist at the Hundred! www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/07/16/no-sweet-caroline-hundred-cricket-bosses-try-avoid-beer-fuelled/Perhaps you could still be converted!
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Post by northwestman on Jul 21, 2021 10:50:33 GMT 1
Vuvuzelas. Already banned from football games and the same should surely be the case in cricket matches as well. The same irritation to viewers as happened in the World Cup in South Africa was provided by the Pakistan supporters. I'd also be more than happy if I never heard 'Sweet Caroline' again. Seriously over used in darts, football, cricket and goodness knows where else! Inevitably, it will be in the DJ's playlist at the Hundred! www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/07/16/no-sweet-caroline-hundred-cricket-bosses-try-avoid-beer-fuelled/Perhaps you could still be converted! I think not! 'Organisers of The Hundred fear that singalong anthems like the Neil Diamond classic attract a boozy, mostly male crowd who might put off families from buying tickets. Instead, in the hope of attracting a younger and more diverse audience, the tournament has worked with the BBC to recruit an “all-star line-up” of DJs and rappers to play at every match'. 'Many of the game’s traditional norms will be ditched in the name of gender neutrality, with Man of the Match becoming Hero of the Match'. A fair % of the crowd only attend to get p**sed, so good luck with trying to prevent them singing whatever they like.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2021 13:13:20 GMT 1
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Post by welshdan on Jul 22, 2021 8:47:40 GMT 1
I did actually watch a few overs of the hundred last night.
Not sure why but found the graphics very confusing with runs and balls remaining and all the other scores displayed.
Funny listening to experienced commentators trying to avoid using standard language but occasionally saying “over”.
My daughters are starting to show an interest in cricket and want to come with me but a test match is a long day for them. So I get the need for shorter form cricket to get youth involved but don’t see why twenty20 wasn’t already filling that.
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Post by northwestman on Jul 22, 2021 9:09:02 GMT 1
It was a bit like rubber necking at a serious road accident as far as I was concerned.
I lasted about 15 minutes watching the unbelievably patronising presentation from both BBC and Sky, but the introduction on camera of a dreadlocked DJ due to present the music was the final straw.
As promised earlier, I ended up watching the darts.
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Post by northwestman on Jul 22, 2021 9:46:42 GMT 1
In the end only one thing matters: will The Hundred entice those uninterested in cricket to become interested? I doubt it. It seems a format designed to amuse the truly stupid, and I am far from convinced that the British public contains enough people of such a low mental age to make this a wild success.
The vast numbers of empty seats at the Oval was a reminder that only the tiniest percentage of the millions living within a 10-mile radius of Kennington could bring themselves to attend this version of cricket, despite a big advertising campaign.
One felt the main benefit for those attending was that they avoided a television commentary of stunning vacuity. The energetic enthusiasm of the commentators suggested a pre-match briefing about drumming up enthusiasm, hoping to convince us we were witnessing history in the making.
Of course, it may be different on Thursday night, when some players the general public might actually have heard of take the field. But that will not stop this format, stripped as it is of the culture, history, subtlety, intelligence and skill-set of real cricket, remaining the entirely forgettable exercise it was on Wednesday night, and nothing more than the marketing stunt the England and Wales Cricket Board have professed it to be.
Something supposedly designed to make cricket more ‘accessible’ – apparently synonymous with replicating an indeterminate and intensely vulgar American sporting occasion – has just barstewardised the game, making it mainly about slogging by something called ‘batters’. The novelty of such things rapidly wears off.
Indeed far from expanding the reach of cricket it will, if it continues, cannibalise it. One cannot criticise players for embracing this rubbish, because they must earn a living - precarious in professional sport for all but the most gifted, and fortunate.
But the consequent erosion of their skills seems a problem unworthy of consideration by the ECB, even though some potentially superb first-class players (Jonny Bairstow is the obvious example) have ended up struggling in real cricket through having to prostitute themselves in T20 and now spectacles such as this.
I suspect were this absurdity being played between counties it might have a better chance of putting down roots, despite its fatuousness: there is no loyalty for the city teams with their puerile names, and never will be. The ECB might just as well have staged a rock concert with this stunt as a half-time entertainment. But then, perhaps, that is exactly what they have done.
Simon Heffer. Daily Telegraph.
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Jul 22, 2021 9:51:05 GMT 1
I watched the whole game, graphics some getting used to and it was hard listening to commentators we already know are intelligent and knowledgeable speaking in a massively dumbed down manner.
But bar the fielding which was abysmal, the game was good and engaging, the standard was high, and i think it will grow in popularity as the tournament goes on. Will be interesting to see how the crowd differs for the men’s game today, both in terms of numbers and demographic.
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Post by barrynic on Jul 22, 2021 10:02:31 GMT 1
Like watching a poor local village pantomime...a total joke and a crass commercialisation and feeble interpretation of the great game.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2021 10:05:03 GMT 1
but don’t see why twenty20 wasn’t already filling that. This is the big issue for me. If you believe the ECB there is a whole gap in the market for families, ethnic minorities and city dwellers but I don't see any massive, untapped fanbase out there that T20 isn't already open to. I've mentioned before that I've attended a number of T20 games at Edgbaston, normally on a Friday night. they've been busy and you get people from all walks of life there including the demographics that this is supposedly targeting. I didn't watch any of last night and have to take criticism with a pinch of salt as it's early and there will be people eager to point out the failings but a couple of arguments for the whole thing is it is quicker and simpler, however I understand the timeframe was pretty similar to T20 and actually the rules were quite complicated. I don't think it will be a failure because it can't afford to be, however there will be people who will be quick to celebrate it's success but won't acknowlege the impacts of it, notably on the other formats of the game.
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Post by northwestman on Jul 22, 2021 10:19:39 GMT 1
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Jul 22, 2021 10:21:22 GMT 1
The poster boy and mouthpiece of the BCCI, the board that won’t release their players to any franchise league around the world for fear it will damage their own brand…
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Post by northwestman on Jul 22, 2021 10:30:07 GMT 1
The poster boy and mouthpiece of the BCCI, the board that won’t release their players to any franchise league around the world for fear it will damage their own brand… True, but exactly the same charge can be levelled against Eoin Morgan for being used by the ECB as the mouthpiece for getting the Counties onside.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2021 10:31:38 GMT 1
The poster boy and mouthpiece of the BCCI, the board that won’t release their players to any franchise league around the world for fear it will damage their own brand… There's many reasons to moan about the hundred, complaining about the commercialisation of the game might be a bit rich.
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Post by Worthingshrew on Jul 22, 2021 10:49:48 GMT 1
I dipped in and out, and was interested more in watching women’s cricket as much as the 100 format.
Crowd seemed to enjoy it, but it was a lovely evening and the home team won. Some good batting skills in evidence, but like others, I can’t see why people would go to this when you already have 20-20 doing virtually the same thing.
How much are the ECB subsidising the whole charade with the band?
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Jul 22, 2021 11:14:36 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2021 11:26:04 GMT 1
How much are the ECB subsidising the whole charade with the band? I'd imagine a lot. Much has been made of the high crowd (7,395), but the consensus is a large number of these were freebies, I read that the prior to the game they were expecting a crowd of 10k so it looks like a number of the freebies didn't turn up. I'm not actually criticising the ticket giveaway, it's a good idea to attract people but it's just a reality check for when people herald the crowd as a success story www.thetimes.co.uk/article/sparse-crowds-to-greet-the-hundred-on-opening-night-ksdd68ttq
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Post by northwestman on Jul 22, 2021 11:32:07 GMT 1
'But then I noticed that the crowd didn't really seem to care who was scoring the runs or taking wickets, they were just enjoying each boundary and catch as an exciting event in itself'. Says it all.
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Post by LetchworthShrew on Jul 22, 2021 13:12:22 GMT 1
It was a bit like rubber necking at a serious road accident as far as I was concerned. I lasted about 15 minutes watching the unbelievably patronising presentation from both BBC and Sky, but the introduction on camera of a dreadlocked DJ due to present the music was the final straw. As promised earlier, I ended up watching the darts. Broadcasters are under instruction not to use tecnical cricketing terms ..... then even had a a graphic explaining what a full toss delivery was!!!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2021 13:25:09 GMT 1
Coming back to proper cricket 😉
Haseeb Hameed scored a fine century against India yesterday, potentially put himself in contention for the first test?
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Post by welshdan on Jul 22, 2021 13:37:19 GMT 1
Coming back to proper cricket 😉 Haseeb Hameed scored a fine century against India yesterday, potentially put himself in contention for the first test? Someone more suited to the longer format game, hope it works out for him, we need more like him to balance the glut of white ball players we seem to have.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2021 19:40:41 GMT 1
Just dipped into the 100 on BBC2.
First impression...horrible graphics.
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Post by Chief Inspector Swan on Jul 22, 2021 20:00:20 GMT 1
Easy to see why the public opinion on The Hundred is so universally positive thus far. Great product, engrossing spectacle and Shagger & brother on terrestrial TV.
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