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Post by LetchworthShrew on Sept 21, 2020 18:20:09 GMT 1
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Post by Pilch on Sept 21, 2020 18:24:47 GMT 1
there’s no end to it
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Post by South Stand Salopian on Sept 21, 2020 18:50:00 GMT 1
Can see leagues getting suspended again pretty soon to be fair. No mandatory testing in the EFL then? Disaster waiting to happen.
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Post by LetchworthShrew on Sept 21, 2020 18:57:28 GMT 1
Can see leagues getting suspended again pretty soon to be fair. No mandatory testing in the EFL then? Disaster waiting to happen. Some suggestions on twitter that Spurs had paid for the tests but whether that is true or not I don't know.
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Post by harboroughshrew on Sept 21, 2020 19:21:25 GMT 1
It certainly does not look good at the moment. If the second wave of Covid is coming it is going to be difficult to justify carrying on with games even with no crowds. How many EFL clubs can continue for a whole season losing money at the rate they are now with no spectators? Certainly not many in Leagues 1 and 2.
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Plymouth
Sept 21, 2020 19:23:17 GMT 1
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Sept 21, 2020 19:23:17 GMT 1
If it’s no longer mandatory for clubs to test players then both clubs and the individuals need to take some responsibility, take the goal celebrations from both us and Northampton for example. If one player had it they’ll all have it after that.
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Post by Pilch on Sept 21, 2020 19:28:41 GMT 1
If it’s no longer mandatory for clubs to test players then both clubs and the individuals need to take some responsibility, take the goal celebrations from both us and Northampton for example. If one player had it they’ll all have it after that. shouldnt affect us too much ;-)
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Plymouth
Sept 21, 2020 22:55:19 GMT 1
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Post by Bob Rickerton on Sept 21, 2020 22:55:19 GMT 1
Has testing ever been mandatory at L1 and below? I thought the issue when last season wasn't restarted was that the cost of private testing was going to be too high for most teams (couple of hundred thousand is the figure I remember) and I haven't heard that we've been doing any testing since.
Impression that I got was that we'd come back because the cases were lowish enough to make it safe on balance. Don't know what the plan is if the cases keep going up.
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Post by wakemanender on Sept 22, 2020 9:37:05 GMT 1
A stop start season looks on the cards with no money coming in for clubs. Very much going to be survival of the fittest.
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Post by LetchworthShrew on Sept 22, 2020 9:53:00 GMT 1
Has testing ever been mandatory at L1 and below? I thought the issue when last season wasn't restarted was that the cost of private testing was going to be too high for most teams (couple of hundred thousand is the figure I remember) and I haven't heard that we've been doing any testing since. Impression that I got was that we'd come back because the cases were lowish enough to make it safe on balance. Don't know what the plan is if the cases keep going up. I think clubs had a series of tests done when returned to pre-season training but not to my knowledge after that.
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Post by ssshrew on Sept 22, 2020 9:53:48 GMT 1
A stop start season looks on the cards with no money coming in for clubs. Very much going to be survival of the fittest. In all senses of the word!!
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Post by Pilch on Sept 22, 2020 9:55:53 GMT 1
A stop start season looks on the cards with no money coming in for clubs. Very much going to be survival of the fittest. i would not be surprised if the gov will come up with a universal credit type plan to help the likes of bolton and wigan and then ignore clubs like town who have a little savings put by
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Post by Dancin on Sept 22, 2020 10:07:27 GMT 1
There isn't the flexibility in the season already so postponing games isn't going to help. If a team can't fulfil a match due to Covid-19 tests do you award the other team the points?
Worse still the Leagues may not be completed?!
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Post by northwestman on Sept 22, 2020 10:14:30 GMT 1
There isn't the flexibility in the season already so postponing games isn't going to help. If a team can't fulfil a match due to Covid-19 tests do you award the other team the points? Worse still the Leagues may not be completed?! I think they'd have to play whoever is still available, even if it's the youth team! Does nothing for the integrity of the competition though.
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Post by LetchworthShrew on Sept 22, 2020 10:20:10 GMT 1
In the qualifying rounds of the FA Cup clubs who can't play due to positive covid tests have to forfeit the tie. Have been a few in the first couple of rounds.
Suppose the EFL will have to make a decision re the Orient v Spurs game but as each round is only a week apart and Spurs will be involved in Europe there isn't scope to rearrange it.
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Post by Dancin on Sept 22, 2020 10:24:13 GMT 1
There isn't the flexibility in the season already so postponing games isn't going to help. If a team can't fulfil a match due to Covid-19 tests do you award the other team the points? Worse still the Leagues may not be completed?! I think they'd have to play whoever is still available, even if it's the youth team! Does nothing for the integrity of the competition though. But Covid could/will be within the training group of Plymouth? Would you be happy going to a club that has an ongoing Covid issue and how would you feel if you brought it back to your family? It will be interesting to see if the Orient vs Spurs goes ahead.
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Post by ssshrew on Sept 22, 2020 10:37:26 GMT 1
There isn't the flexibility in the season already so postponing games isn't going to help. If a team can't fulfil a match due to Covid-19 tests do you award the other team the points? Worse still the Leagues may not be completed?! I think they'd have to play whoever is still available, even if it's the youth team! Does nothing for the integrity of the competition though. Oh I don’t know Bolton managed to do it quite well at the beginning of last season. There is a precedent.
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Post by Dancin on Sept 22, 2020 10:43:04 GMT 1
I think they'd have to play whoever is still available, even if it's the youth team! Does nothing for the integrity of the competition though. Oh I don’t know Bolton managed to do it quite well at the beginning of last season. There is a precedent. Last years season started in August and the Championship finished their season. We're in a whole different board game with Covid its not financial issues.
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Post by ssshrew on Sept 22, 2020 11:15:48 GMT 1
Oh sorry I forgot the !!!! I am well aware that this year is different. See my post about no Gillingham game.
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Post by LetchworthShrew on Sept 22, 2020 11:29:06 GMT 1
Has testing ever been mandatory at L1 and below? I thought the issue when last season wasn't restarted was that the cost of private testing was going to be too high for most teams (couple of hundred thousand is the figure I remember) and I haven't heard that we've been doing any testing since. Impression that I got was that we'd come back because the cases were lowish enough to make it safe on balance. Don't know what the plan is if the cases keep going up. I think clubs had a series of tests done when returned to pre-season training but not to my knowledge after that. Apologies for quoting myself but just read this on the Daily Fail website www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-8736551/Premier-League-club-forced-pay-EFL-Cup-rivals-coronavirus-test.htmlPremier League club forced to pay for lower league Carabao Cup opponents to be tested for Covid-19 after EFL remove mandatory protocol for teams to be screened on weekly basis
- Championship players will only be tested after international breaks this year
- A Premier League club has had to pay for their EFL Cup opponent's testing
- Testing in the EFL is only mandatory when a player is displaying symptoms
A Premier League club has been forced to pay for their lower-league Carabao Cup opponents to be tested for Covid-19 this week. They had feared their players could be infected after the EFL removed the mandatory protocol for teams to be screened on a weekly basis. Sportsmail can reveal that players in the Championship will now only be tested after international breaks before Christmas following new guidance from the EFL.
The same applies to clubs in Leagues One and Two, but only for players who have been away with their country or given an extended break.
Top-flight sources say they are deeply concerned about meeting EFL teams in the cups, given the increased risk of their players and staff being exposed to coronavirus.
Testing in the EFL is now at the discretion of clubs and is only mandatory when a person shows symptoms.
But with each test costing between £100 and £150, the weekly bill can be as much as £30,000 if 100 employees are checked prior to two matches.
Sportsmail has spoken to several top Championship clubs who say they are no longer testing and will only do so when required to by the EFL.
The last mandatory tests were on Friday, but players and staff will now go untested until after October's international matches, before which there are two more rounds of the Carabao Cup.
'We just can't afford it,' said one club source. 'It was not sustainable to be paying anywhere between £10,000 and £30,000 each week. With no supporters in the grounds, there are a lot of clubs facing financial oblivion. All we can do is make our environment as safe as possible.
'Of course, we can't control what players do outside of the training ground and matchday bubble, and that will always be a risk. But, at the moment, there is no alternative.'
Another source within the game, who made Sportsmail aware of the change in protocol, is concerned about the consequences.
'This is a recipe for disaster,' they said. 'When you think how many players who have tested positive have not shown any obvious symptoms, it could get out of control very quickly.
'Players and staff will have to show symptoms before they are tested or forced to self-isolate, and by then it could be too late. This could impact on fixtures being postponed and the integrity of the competition.
'It is going to get very complicated when Premier League clubs face EFL clubs and players have not been tested for a month or more. Who knows where that could end. More importantly, this is people's health. It is no longer minimising the risk of transmission, that is the biggest concern.'
The EFL tested players and club staff on a weekly basis when the Championship returned in the summer. But, like the Championship, League One and League Two clubs are now testing at their own discretion. The cost of all tests in the EFL is met by the clubs.
The decision to adapt the protocols came after an assessment of the Covid situation and the high number of negative tests among EFL clubs in pre-season.
The EFL have told clubs that the most important focus is the wider hygiene protocols at their stadiums and training grounds. But some clubs are concerned that others are not adhering to the guidelines strictly enough.
And Premier League clubs are contacting lower-league opponents ahead of cup fixtures to determine what risk there is to players and staff, then coming to arrangements over testing.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Sept 22, 2020 12:35:59 GMT 1
brighton fc pay to have all there team and staff tested every week at £140 a time.
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Plymouth
Sept 22, 2020 15:03:49 GMT 1
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Post by South Stand Salopian on Sept 22, 2020 15:03:49 GMT 1
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Sept 22, 2020 15:45:01 GMT 1
Can see the EFL having to sort out many issues this season due to Covid. Given their track record recently does ANYONE have confidence in the doing so with any competence ??
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Post by South Stand Salopian on Sept 22, 2020 19:58:45 GMT 1
Now David Moyes and 2 West Ham players have the virus.
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Post by LetchworthShrew on Sept 22, 2020 20:36:01 GMT 1
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Plymouth
Sept 22, 2020 20:52:29 GMT 1
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Post by martinshrew on Sept 22, 2020 20:52:29 GMT 1
Seems a bit mad to me after the latest announcements?
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Post by LetchworthShrew on Sept 23, 2020 17:10:45 GMT 1
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Post by South Stand Salopian on Sept 25, 2020 11:17:16 GMT 1
Tottenham handed bye into fourth round after Leyton Orient tie called off.
Wouldn’t have been the case if it had been the other way round no doubt.
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Plymouth
Sept 25, 2020 17:18:01 GMT 1
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Post by South Stand Salopian on Sept 25, 2020 17:18:01 GMT 1
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Post by davycrockett on Sept 25, 2020 17:33:50 GMT 1
Why are some games called off after positive tests (and byes given with the Leyton manager critical and happy to play) yet our game against Plymouth goes on?
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