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Post by stainesr on Jun 30, 2020 11:06:17 GMT 1
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Post by sheltonsalopian on Jun 30, 2020 11:11:37 GMT 1
Don't think his playing ability was the problem it was that off the field incident wasn't it?
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Post by northwestman on Jun 30, 2020 11:15:55 GMT 1
I note that Eoin Doyle is out of contract.
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Jun 30, 2020 11:21:02 GMT 1
He was unprofessional wasn’t he, I recall him saying something derogatory about Askey after he’d been sacked. Whilst characters like him exist in football, they never usually last long at our club. I’m not shedding any tears.
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Post by stainesr on Jun 30, 2020 11:23:11 GMT 1
Don't think his playing ability was the problem it was that off the field incident wasn't it? No one ever properly explained what happened as far as I knew, which made the whole thing seem even more shambolic.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2020 11:31:05 GMT 1
I'm not sure that Grant being made player of the year is proof that he was disgracefully treated by Ricketts. Its just proof that he is a good player which we know already.
I've said it before that Grant was immense for us mainly but the last few months he was dire.
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Post by Pilch on Jun 30, 2020 11:41:31 GMT 1
the rumours I heard were that grant was in charge of collecting the fines which was eventually to be shared between the players but he pocketed it and managed to lose his teeth as a result, now whether or not that is true or not I simply don't know, but if its it then unfortunately that was the situation ricketts had to deal with
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Post by wakemanender on Jun 30, 2020 12:21:25 GMT 1
The truth is none of us know what goes on behind the scenes at a football club. I am sure Managers have to be social workers at times dealing with things that will never come to the notice of fans and rightly so. I remember a few years ago during the reign of MM there were lots of comments and jokes about a young full back who just seemed to disappear. It turned out he had mental health problems. Best not to speculate. I am sure Ricketts was perfectly justified in the action he against Grant and there is no reason for us to know those reasons.
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Post by TheFoz on Jun 30, 2020 12:24:18 GMT 1
Grant was a superb footballer, no one is denying that.
However, he must have done something bad when a player of his quality gets shipped out.
He has previous of not being well behaved so I’m guessing a leopard doesn’t change their spots.
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Post by LetchworthShrew on Jun 30, 2020 12:27:49 GMT 1
Whatever had happened it sounded like it involved other players which is why he had to be kept away from the 1st team squad.It's done n dusted and we don't need to really know why. Pleased he's done well at Swinedon though ... despite us now having to go there next season.
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Post by returnofthehype on Jun 30, 2020 13:04:13 GMT 1
the rumours I heard were that grant was in charge of collecting the fines which was eventually to be shared between the players but he pocketed it and managed to lose his teeth as a result, now whether or not that is true or not I simply don't know, but if its it then unfortunately that was the situation ricketts had to deal with Do you know who delivered the alleged teeth extraction???
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Post by Pilch on Jun 30, 2020 13:13:46 GMT 1
the rumours I heard were that grant was in charge of collecting the fines which was eventually to be shared between the players but he pocketed it and managed to lose his teeth as a result, now whether or not that is true or not I simply don't know, but if its it then unfortunately that was the situation ricketts had to deal with Do you know who delivered the alleged teeth extraction??? yes, one of our favourite loanees allegedly
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2020 13:21:10 GMT 1
The Doc, not the dentist
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Post by FloreatShrew on Jun 30, 2020 13:22:35 GMT 1
No it isn't, I'd rather have a strong manager than one who bends to player power. Plus AG from the rumours made his own bed.
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Post by ssshrew on Jun 30, 2020 13:39:20 GMT 1
Not shambolic at all just private. To have made it public would:
a) not have been the Shrewsbury way and b) possibly made it more difficult for AG to have found another club.
Best thing all round for everyone.
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Post by staffordshrew on Jun 30, 2020 13:39:23 GMT 1
We got Aaron Pierre in who was named Shrewsbury Town's player of the year. End of story.
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Post by venceremos on Jun 30, 2020 14:04:37 GMT 1
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Post by Pilch on Jun 30, 2020 14:10:41 GMT 1
in fairness, there was never any evidence either way, but hopefully he might have a different opinion on grant now than he did earlier, players dont get treated the way Grant was for simply turning up late for training etc, they have done something bad
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2020 14:18:22 GMT 1
It doesn't matter how good a player is, he will never ever be bigger than our club.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Jun 30, 2020 14:20:05 GMT 1
Maybe Grants just one of those players that needs to seek new challenges in order to keep him at the top of his game. Maybe he goes a little stale once he's been in one spot for any length of time. I think most of us think that it was something off the field that resulted in him leaving the club but from what I can recall, his performances had started to dip anyhow. He was without doubt one of the best players we had on the park at one point but I didn't think that was the case towards the end of his playing time with Town.
Not the first pit stop he's made in his career, he doesn't tend to spend too long anywhere so perhaps that would suggest that he isn't able to maintain (for whatever reason) the high standards he is capable of once he gets too settled in. Dunno. But I can't say that I'm that arsed that he is playing elsewhere. Be interesting to see how he gets on next season back in the 3rd, mind.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2020 14:20:23 GMT 1
Clearly you have no time whatsoever for our manager. Ah well, each to his own.
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Post by Worthingshrew on Jun 30, 2020 14:27:12 GMT 1
There was a good article in the Times last week about Richie Wellens and Swindon, and mentioned Grant quite a bit. It also said that he’d fallen out with 2 or 3 managers during his career, so I don’t think it’s just Ricketts, and even if it was, I support SR in getting rid of bad apples.
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Post by harboroughshrew on Jun 30, 2020 16:11:30 GMT 1
There was a good article in the Times last week about Richie Wellens and Swindon, and mentioned Grant quite a bit. It also said that he’d fallen out with 2 or 3 managers during his career, so I don’t think it’s just Ricketts, and even if it was, I support SR in getting rid of bad apples. I saw that article too. Another interesting thing Wellens said was that Swindon were only paying 40% of Grant's wages during the loan period - that shows how expensive it was to ship him out. Ricketts would not have did what he did without very good reason and it looks like the relationship between Grant and the other players had broken down so it was an understandable decision. Grant was good at the start of last season but his rather unique style of play (slowing the game down and inviting fouls) did often slow the game down and make it scrappy. I dont think we missed him too much this season - he is the sort of player who starts well at a club and then things start to go downhill.
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Post by Pilch on Jun 30, 2020 16:23:39 GMT 1
There was a good article in the Times last week about Richie Wellens and Swindon, and mentioned Grant quite a bit. It also said that he’d fallen out with 2 or 3 managers during his career, so I don’t think it’s just Ricketts, and even if it was, I support SR in getting rid of bad apples. I saw that article too. Another interesting thing Wellens said was that Swindon were only paying 40% of Grant's wages during the loan period - that shows how expensive it was to ship him out. Ricketts would not have did what he did without very good reason and it looks like the relationship between Grant and the other players had broken down so it was an understandable decision. Grant was good at the start of last season but his rather unique style of play (slowing the game down and inviting fouls) did often slow the game down and make it scr@ppy. I dont think we missed him too much this season - he is the sort of player who starts well at a club and then things start to go downhill. my dad used to be a brickie and once worked for ken Woodhouse , he was chatting to ken once and asked him about a certain player ' what happened to so and so, he was great'. (my dad cant remember the name) he said ken shook his head, and said 'troublemaker, we had to get rid'. I would imagine this is rife at a lot of clubs and with the wages some are on these days it can be a nightmare.
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Post by davycrockett on Jun 30, 2020 16:31:38 GMT 1
There was a good article in the Times last week about Richie Wellens and Swindon, and mentioned Grant quite a bit. It also said that he’d fallen out with 2 or 3 managers during his career, so I don’t think it’s just Ricketts, and even if it was, I support SR in getting rid of bad apples. I saw that article too. Another interesting thing Wellens said was that Swindon were only paying 40% of Grant's wages during the loan period - that shows how expensive it was to ship him out. Ricketts would not have did what he did without very good reason and it looks like the relationship between Grant and the other players had broken down so it was an understandable decision. Grant was good at the start of last season but his rather unique style of play (slowing the game down and inviting fouls) did often slow the game down and make it scr@ppy. I dont think we missed him too much this season - he is the sort of player who starts well at a club and then things start to go downhill. This to me shows he didn’t do what he was rumoured to do (various options) because they were gross misconduct if not criminal so we could have ended his contract.......Face didn’t fit and maybe led the dressing room against Askey so best get rid before he does the same with the next manager is another conspiracy theory ....
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Post by wakemanender on Jun 30, 2020 19:00:47 GMT 1
I was always moaning to Jake King that he wasnt playing Darren Currie enough until he called me into the office and told me that the player was turning up for training the worse for drink. You just dont know whats going on.
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Post by Pilch on Jun 30, 2020 19:15:46 GMT 1
I was always moaning to Jake King that he wasnt playing Darren Currie enough until he called me into the office and told me that the player was turning up for training the worse for drink. You just dont know whats going on. I've always said that sometimes you fans should be singing "we dont know what you're doing" instead of "you dont know what your doing" because that is exactly the case I did suggest to sam that he texted me before a game about why certain players have been left out and I'd spread the news discreetly around the stadium, but he just laughed
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Post by staffordshrew on Jun 30, 2020 19:19:48 GMT 1
There was a good article in the Times last week about Richie Wellens and Swindon, and mentioned Grant quite a bit. It also said that he’d fallen out with 2 or 3 managers during his career, so I don’t think it’s just Ricketts, and even if it was, I support SR in getting rid of bad apples. I saw that article too. Another interesting thing Wellens said was that Swindon were only paying 40% of Grant's wages during the loan period - that shows how expensive it was to ship him out. Ricketts would not have did what he did without very good reason and it looks like the relationship between Grant and the other players had broken down so it was an understandable decision. Grant was good at the start of last season but his rather unique style of play (slowing the game down and inviting fouls) did often slow the game down and make it scr@ppy. I dont think we missed him too much this season - he is the sort of playeWe r who starts well at a club and then things start to go downhill. We paid 60% of his wages to fix him up with a loan move - seems we actually treated him pretty well. We don't know why he was banished to train with the youth team, but it's not a decision you take lightly and BC was prepared to go along with Sam's actions even though it cost the club serious money.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2020 22:01:59 GMT 1
It doesn't matter how good a player is, he will never ever be bigger than our club. This is true. Great shame though, one of the best midfielders I’ve seen at the club.
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Post by Chief Inspector Swan on Jun 30, 2020 22:49:40 GMT 1
It doesn't matter how good a player is, he will never ever be bigger than our club. This is true. Great shame though, one of the best midfielders I’ve seen at the club. Lol
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