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Post by northwestman on Aug 4, 2020 11:03:29 GMT 1
Nicola Palios also tweeted this:
'So it seems the EFL season will start again on 12th September, behind closed doors. So clubs who voted not to play the last 10 games of last season because they could not afford to, can now miraculously afford to start a new one?'
Very fair comment.
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Post by wakemanender on Aug 4, 2020 12:16:12 GMT 1
Nicola Palios also tweeted this: 'So it seems the EFL season will start again on 12th September, behind closed doors. So clubs who voted not to play the last 10 games of last season because they could not afford to, can now miraculously afford to start a new one?' Very fair comment. Its not a big problem for well run clubs who dont live beyond their means.
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Post by scooter on Aug 4, 2020 12:22:36 GMT 1
Nicola Palios also tweeted this: 'So it seems the EFL season will start again on 12th September, behind closed doors. So clubs who voted not to play the last 10 games of last season because they could not afford to, can now miraculously afford to start a new one?' Very fair comment. Its not a big problem for well run clubs who dont live beyond their means. But it was a big problem in March ?
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Aug 4, 2020 12:37:55 GMT 1
Its a fair question. One I've wondered myself. Why did they pack up last season if there was every chance (and a very good chance) that nothing would have changed in the mean time and they might well be starting next season again with no fans. As it was a real possibility. What were the prerequisites to getting the games on again and why would they differ from now from then.
I guess they must have there reasons. Perhaps its down to how the finances are managed. Or perhaps it was just down to some hope that things would be different now.
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Post by frankwellshrews on Aug 4, 2020 12:53:46 GMT 1
It's a weird one. I wonder how much is down to the fact clubs have had 3 or 4 months to drum up season ticket / sponsorship / shirt sales money so have a bit more cash available now as opposed to dwindling resources at the end of last season.
Must admit I do feel slightly mugged here, having committed to a season ticket only to find out a few days later that it was likely to be October before we could get back into a ground. You do wonder how much the clubs knew (the EFL must have been consulted before BoJo's speech, surely?).
The clubs have been keen to give the impression of a "normal" season and I suspect the cash they've been able to bring in might be enough for a stay of execution. Wouldn't be surprised if we don't see the inside of the Meadow until next year now though, with the R rate being over 1 now and thoughts of a second wave sooner than expected.
Overall I'm not so bothered if it means there's still a football club to go back to at some point but it would be nice if there was a bit more clarity.
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Post by davycrockett on Aug 4, 2020 14:18:28 GMT 1
Nicola Palios also tweeted this: 'So it seems the EFL season will start again on 12th September, behind closed doors. So clubs who voted not to play the last 10 games of last season because they could not afford to, can now miraculously afford to start a new one?' Very fair comment. Its not a big problem for well run clubs who dont live beyond their means. It is really. Brian has been quoted as saying he was hoping to have fans in from the start with reduced numbers as a trial as can’t sustain playing in empty stadium.... Otherwise refunds will have to be made. Same could happen with Tranmere. Fact is we may all be in lockdown by 12th September with schools returning at the beginning of September and already talk of closing pubs and restaurants to allow this. Just imagine if we were currently playing with limited crowds clubs like Rochdale Bolton and many more would have local restrictions.... As usual Polio’s has got a point but isn’t coming up with a solution
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Post by davycrockett on Aug 4, 2020 14:20:55 GMT 1
It's a weird one. I wonder how much is down to the fact clubs have had 3 or 4 months to drum up season ticket / sponsorship / shirt sales money so have a bit more cash available now as opposed to dwindling resources at the end of last season. Must admit I do feel slightly mugged here, having committed to a season ticket only to find out a few days later that it was likely to be October before we could get back into a ground. You do wonder how much the clubs knew (the EFL must have been consulted before BoJo's speech, surely?). The clubs have been keen to give the impression of a "normal" season and I suspect the cash they've been able to bring in might be enough for a stay of execution. Wouldn't be surprised if we don't see the inside of the Meadow until next year now though, with the R rate being over 1 now and thoughts of a second wave sooner than expected. Overall I'm not so bothered if it means there's still a football club to go back to at some point but it would be nice if there was a bit more clarity. Not a problem you be able to claim a refund on games missed I’m sure...... I didn’t claim one last season cos that was unforeseen but would definitely this season as they’ve sold them knowing there could be a problem.... ps can stick the iFollow pass not interested
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Post by Pilch on Aug 4, 2020 15:50:33 GMT 1
back in March a few clubs were starting to have players and staff with covid 19 and stopping all sports seemed to be the best plan, since then we've learnt that certain sports can start up again with limitations, I dont think we need to question anything too much, sport has been handled quite well
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Post by Stowmarket Shrew on Aug 4, 2020 21:33:24 GMT 1
Anyone know when next seasons fixtures will be published. Thought it was end of this week I was searching yesterday, and there doesn’t seem to be a date. Just a statement that it would be as soon as they could, or words to that effect Championship still to be decided tonight, but now the Wigan appeal is finalised and after tonight is resolved, it should be soon hopefully.
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Post by wakemanender on Aug 5, 2020 12:16:25 GMT 1
I would have thought we may get two or three pre season games announced soon. Obviously behind closed doors and maybe any home games would be held at Ludlow.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Aug 11, 2020 9:35:08 GMT 1
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Post by zenfootball2 on Aug 14, 2020 12:42:04 GMT 1
not sure how this will work no singing ,well the same goes for chanting or yelling at the ref ? but at least they are trying to work out how it will be feasable. www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-8626789/Football-fans-not-allowed-sing-chant-return-stadiums-month.html"Football fans 'will have to sign a code of conduct' to safeguard against spreading Covid-19 when they return to stadiums from next month - and that 'could include a ban on singing'. Lockdown restrictions are being eased gradually and that could mean spectators are readmitted to stadiums in time for the new season in England and Wales. But fans will have to take responsibility by agreeing to rules on behaviour before they're allowed inside. "In America's Major League Soccer, fans had to sign a waiver saying they wouldn't take legal action against clubs or the league if they contracted coronavirus while attending a game. " "First the number of people allowed into the ground will be capped to ensure sufficient social distancing. One-way entry and exit plus staggered arrival times are also likely to become the norm for those fans lucky enough to get a ticket. Fans will be spread out to adhere to social distancing guidelines and hand sanitiser stations will be set up."
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Aug 14, 2020 13:04:57 GMT 1
Back at the Waldau tomorrow for the WfV Pokal game against Göppingen. Only 500 fans allowed in. Only the seats open. But we go again. Very much looking forward to some football.
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Post by Dancin on Aug 14, 2020 13:12:21 GMT 1
It's how you manage the social distancing around by the buffets, bars, toilets etc and when spectators need to take a leak during the match?
With reduced attendances hopefully it can be managed?
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Aug 14, 2020 13:29:16 GMT 1
It's how you manage the social distancing around by the buffets, bars, toilets etc and when spectators need to take a leak during the match? With reduced attendances hopefully it can be managed? No different to how its done elsewhere I would think. When queuing you'll be asked to keep some distance between you and others who are waiting. Toilets will see a number of urinals or toilets closed off. Maybe there will be a limit to how many can enter the toilets but that could be difficult to manage. But I think fans will be asked to do what they are asked to do wherever they may be, just use some common sense.👍
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Post by Dancin on Aug 14, 2020 13:32:38 GMT 1
It's how you manage the social distancing around by the buffets, bars, toilets etc and when spectators need to take a leak during the match? With reduced attendances hopefully it can be managed? No different to how its done elsewhere I would think. When queuing you'll be asked to keep some distance between you and others who are waiting. Toilets will see a number of urinals or toilets closed off. Maybe there will be a limit to how many can enter the toilets but that could be difficult to manage. But I think fans will be asked to do what they are asked to do wherever they may be, just use some common sense.👍 Unfortunately common sense goes out of the window for many when Alcohol gets introduced?! Especially after the scenes I saw locally last weekend.
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Post by salop18 on Aug 14, 2020 14:09:12 GMT 1
Nicola Palios also tweeted this: 'So it seems the EFL season will start again on 12th September, behind closed doors. So clubs who voted not to play the last 10 games of last season because they could not afford to, can now miraculously afford to start a new one?' Very fair comment. Came across this on another football forum that pretty much explains this:- “The furlough scheme would have obviously been the big thing. It meant that, along with deferred business rates and VAT payments, Club's could effectively mothball and stand still from a financial point of view. There was no appearance bonuses, goal bonuses, win bonuses etc to pay out, no testing costs to finish the season (£150k per Club), no additional travel costs (having to travel over more than one bus, for example), no-one in training grounds, lower bills etc and 9(?) games with no fans albeit still season ticket money, some of which may or may not have to be repaid via rebates. Some of the above costs will still be applicable now. For example, testing is happening (I'm not sure it's required on the level that it would have been to complete the season), away game travel but at least at this point there's income, albeit not at a required level. As it stands(!), they'll be some fans back in October (famous last words), which roughly coincides with the furlough scheme ending, so Club's will at least be getting *some* income, certainly more than April-August/September. Also don't forget, in theory, Club's can still currently claim furlough money for the time that players aren't training so it can still help, and that applies for staff, too. All the above said, I don't think any of us are naive to think there wasn't a huge amount of self interest at both ends of the table, but for those of us who had little or nothing to play for - Lincoln, Shrewsbury, Gillingham, Bristol Rovers, Blackpool, Burton and Ipswich (even though they voted to play-on) - it was certainly a better option to curtail it. Bolton and Southend were down, so they were happy to curtail it as well. Naturally, given the stage of the season, there were few Club's who needed to play on.”
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Aug 16, 2020 13:29:59 GMT 1
No different to how its done elsewhere I would think. When queuing you'll be asked to keep some distance between you and others who are waiting. Toilets will see a number of urinals or toilets closed off. Maybe there will be a limit to how many can enter the toilets but that could be difficult to manage. But I think fans will be asked to do what they are asked to do wherever they may be, just use some common sense.👍 Unfortunately common sense goes out of the window for many when Alcohol gets introduced?! Especially after the scenes I saw locally last weekend. So yesterday evening we had 500 people in the one stand that has a capacity of 2000. There was loads of room to move about. It was easy to keep your distance. I guess it will depend on how many will be allowed in but I suspect anyone who is being a pain in the arse will stand out like a sore thumb and you would think with the limited capacity the stewards will have plenty of time, space and the numbers to deal with them pretty quickly. Plus of course most people who attend will use their common sense. Other than that; we all needed to complete a form before entering the ground including contact details, match ticket details (seat numbers etc) and some medical questions. Meaning we had to sit in the seat allocated of course (seats not allocated were cordoned off). We were kinda sat in groups which I was surprised about, I mean with people we don't know. I thought we would have been spaced out. We were required to wear a mask in the stands (getting food for example) but no one was checking or bothered when we were in our seats. Whether that'll how it will work in Blighty remains to be seen of course but that's how it was for us yesterday. But a nice balmy evening at the Waldau, some football, beer and a Kickers win. It was really nice way to get back into the swing of things, great to be watching some football again.
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Post by accordingtome on Aug 16, 2020 19:43:40 GMT 1
not sure how this will work no singing ,well the same goes for chanting or yelling at the ref ? but at least they are trying to work out how it will be feasable. www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-8626789/Football-fans-not-allowed-sing-chant-return-stadiums-month.html"Football fans 'will have to sign a code of conduct' to safeguard against spreading Covid-19 when they return to stadiums from next month - and that 'could include a ban on singing'. Lockdown restrictions are being eased gradually and that could mean spectators are readmitted to stadiums in time for the new season in England and Wales. But fans will have to take responsibility by agreeing to rules on behaviour before they're allowed inside. "In America's Major League Soccer, fans had to sign a waiver saying they wouldn't take legal action against clubs or the league if they contracted coronavirus while attending a game. " "First the number of people allowed into the ground will be capped to ensure sufficient social distancing. One-way entry and exit plus staggered arrival times are also likely to become the norm for those fans lucky enough to get a ticket. Fans will be spread out to adhere to social distancing guidelines and hand sanitiser stations will be set up." having just witnessed the crowd hollering and shouting at the indoor snooker final on TV, not sure how a ban on singing,/chanting at outside football match can be enforced, complete bollox!!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2020 20:20:10 GMT 1
Ronnie soon made short work of the final.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Aug 17, 2020 10:33:59 GMT 1
not sure how this will work no singing ,well the same goes for chanting or yelling at the ref ? but at least they are trying to work out how it will be feasable. www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-8626789/Football-fans-not-allowed-sing-chant-return-stadiums-month.html"Football fans 'will have to sign a code of conduct' to safeguard against spreading Covid-19 when they return to stadiums from next month - and that 'could include a ban on singing'. Lockdown restrictions are being eased gradually and that could mean spectators are readmitted to stadiums in time for the new season in England and Wales. But fans will have to take responsibility by agreeing to rules on behaviour before they're allowed inside. "In America's Major League Soccer, fans had to sign a waiver saying they wouldn't take legal action against clubs or the league if they contracted coronavirus while attending a game. " "First the number of people allowed into the ground will be capped to ensure sufficient social distancing. One-way entry and exit plus staggered arrival times are also likely to become the norm for those fans lucky enough to get a ticket. Fans will be spread out to adhere to social distancing guidelines and hand sanitiser stations will be set up." having just witnessed the crowd hollering and shouting at the indoor snooker final on TV, not sure how a ban on singing,/chanting at outside football match can be enforced, complete bollox!! very true
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Post by zenfootball2 on Aug 19, 2020 10:24:32 GMT 1
25% of the grounds capacity was what i thought might happen as this stands unless you have a season ticket or are a member of the sovereign club it does not look as if you will get to see a live game. i think we sold just over 3,000 season tickets last year so if that number is repeated and as it is on a first come first servered basis to get a match ticket some may not get in. no system is perfect but it seems a bit unfair on fans who may not be season ticket holder but normally have high loyalty points. it will be intresting to see how it work in practice. www.shropshirestar.com/sport/football/shrewsbury-town-fc/2020/08/18/shrewsbury-town-reveal-details-in-bid-to-get-fans-back/"The presence of away fans is unlikely, as the club will require all four stands to satisfy season ticket and Sovereign Club members. The Meadow’s reduced capacity will be around 2,500-3,000 spectators (25-30 per cent). Season ticket holders will unlikely sit in their own seat, to enable social distancing and accommodate ‘bubbles’. Match specific tickets must be obtained, by season ticket holders as a priority, then on a first come, first served basis. There will be minimal use of turnstiles and concourses with catering units moved and entry via the corner of the stadium, as well as new fencing and gates between Lidl and the Community Hub. All supporters will be required to adhere to a code of conduct, which will be published at a later date."
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Post by LetchworthShrew on Aug 19, 2020 13:24:12 GMT 1
Lets hope they get picked as a pilot and at least some fans can go. Personally as someone in "exile" I normally get to lots more away than at home so I don't think I will be seeing many, if any, Town games this season.
Going to be be a season of N/L groundhopping for me (fingers crossed)
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Post by northwestman on Aug 19, 2020 16:30:39 GMT 1
25% of the grounds capacity was what i thought might happen as this stands unless you have a season ticket or are a member of the sovereign club it does not look as if you will get to see a live game. i think we sold just over 3,000 season tickets last year so if that number is repeated and as it is on a first come first servered basis to get a match ticket some may not get in. no system is perfect but it seems a bit unfair on fans who may not be season ticket holder but normally have high loyalty points. it will be intresting to see how it work in practice. www.shropshirestar.com/sport/football/shrewsbury-town-fc/2020/08/18/shrewsbury-town-reveal-details-in-bid-to-get-fans-back/"The presence of away fans is unlikely, as the club will require all four stands to satisfy season ticket and Sovereign Club members. The Meadow’s reduced capacity will be around 2,500-3,000 spectators (25-30 per cent). Season ticket holders will unlikely sit in their own seat, to enable social distancing and accommodate ‘bubbles’. Match specific tickets must be obtained, by season ticket holders as a priority, then on a first come, first served basis. There will be minimal use of turnstiles and concourses with catering units moved and entry via the corner of the stadium, as well as new fencing and gates between Lidl and the Community Hub. All supporters will be required to adhere to a code of conduct, which will be published at a later date." Presumably, those season ticket holders who fail to secure a match ticket will be offered the alternative of free live streaming of the match by the Club?
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Post by zenfootball2 on Aug 19, 2020 16:31:18 GMT 1
25% of the grounds capacity was what i thought might happen as this stands unless you have a season ticket or are a member of the sovereign club it does not look as if you will get to see a live game. i think we sold just over 3,000 season tickets last year so if that number is repeated and as it is on a first come first servered basis to get a match ticket some may not get in. no system is perfect but it seems a bit unfair on fans who may not be season ticket holder but normally have high loyalty points. it will be intresting to see how it work in practice. www.shropshirestar.com/sport/football/shrewsbury-town-fc/2020/08/18/shrewsbury-town-reveal-details-in-bid-to-get-fans-back/"The presence of away fans is unlikely, as the club will require all four stands to satisfy season ticket and Sovereign Club members. The Meadow’s reduced capacity will be around 2,500-3,000 spectators (25-30 per cent). Season ticket holders will unlikely sit in their own seat, to enable social distancing and accommodate ‘bubbles’. Match specific tickets must be obtained, by season ticket holders as a priority, then on a first come, first served basis. There will be minimal use of turnstiles and concourses with catering units moved and entry via the corner of the stadium, as well as new fencing and gates between Lidl and the Community Hub. All supporters will be required to adhere to a code of conduct, which will be published at a later date." Presumably, those season ticket holders who fail to secure a match ticket will be offered the alternative of free live streaming of the match by the Club? you would hope so
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Post by zenfootball2 on Aug 21, 2020 15:07:59 GMT 1
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