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Post by staffordshrew on Mar 20, 2020 11:26:44 GMT 1
I had quite bad breathing problems last week or so which seems to be getting better by the day, more likely anxiety, ideally it was a very mild corona but thats wishful thinking, no way of knowing at the moment though, we dont even know if you can catch it twice yet do we ? Some, maybe most, are supposed to develop immunity to getting it again. As far as I know, you would have had a high temperature, bound to be a lot of anxiety in everyone about this.
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Post by Carter on Mar 20, 2020 13:04:53 GMT 1
I had quite bad breathing problems last week or so which seems to be getting better by the day, more likely anxiety, ideally it was a very mild corona but thats wishful thinking, no way of knowing at the moment though, we dont even know if you can catch it twice yet do we ? Exactly the same here Pilch... Let's hope that was it!
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Post by SeanBroseley on Mar 20, 2020 14:11:53 GMT 1
I always have a winter cough - dry tickly cough. One of these days it could be the portent of something more serious. Considering that people can pass it on wiothout having symptoms I'm staying out of everyone's way even more than I usually do.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Mar 20, 2020 15:06:45 GMT 1
I had quite bad breathing problems last week or so which seems to be getting better by the day, more likely anxiety, ideally it was a very mild corona but thats wishful thinking, no way of knowing at the moment though, we dont even know if you can catch it twice yet do we ? im glad you are feeling better.without testing who knowes who may have had it or who are self isolating when they dont need to
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Post by darkshrew on Mar 20, 2020 15:25:29 GMT 1
This is a crisis which the biggest role that most of us can play in helping is sitting at home and watching TV - let's see if we can avoid ****ing that up.
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Mar 20, 2020 17:10:56 GMT 1
We don't know who has it because we are not testing people.
It is very mild, unless it isn't.
This one has a long way to run.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Mar 20, 2020 17:32:27 GMT 1
This virus is rampant in our society. The number of people who have it is much more than the figures given. They are only testing a small percentage. If you are ill dont take the risk of spreading it. We need to be sensible and protect the elderly and vulnerable. We all have family who are vulnerable, do the sensible thing. the goverment stoped testing some time back, this has drawn in my view rightly criticism from WHO. germany's approach ; www.thejakartapost.com/news/2020/03/20/dissecting-germanys-low-coronavirus-death-rate.html"As the number of confirmed coronavirus cases continues to rise across Europe, the figures in Germany have experts scratching their heads. Despite being among the countries hardest hit by the pandemic, Germany has recorded an astonishingly low number of deaths in comparison to its European neighbors.The latest official figures published by the disease control agency Robert Koch Institute (RKI) on Thursday showed 10,999 confirmed infections, 20 of whom had died. That is a mortality rate of just 0.18 percent, significantly lower than that of China (4 percent), Britain (3.9 percent), France (2.9 percent) and Italy (8.3 percent)." Early testing "Christian Drosten, director of the Institute of Virology at Berlin's Charite hospital, said early testing could also be a factor."We recognized the disease very early in this country. We are ahead in terms of diagnosis and detection."In January, researchers at Charite became among the first to develop a test for the virus.Germany also has a network of independent laboratories, many of which began testing as early as January, when case numbers were still very low. The high number of labs has increased screening capacity nationwide, and the RKI estimates that 12,000 people can be tested a day in Germany. getting a test is therefore easier than in some other countries. Anyone who is showing symptoms, has been in contact with a confirmed case or has recently returned from a risk zone is eligible." Better medical equipment "With 25,000 intensive care beds complete with respiratory support, Germany is well equipped compared to its European neighbors. By contrast, France only has around 7,000 and Italy around 5,000. In Britain, latest NHS figures show that there are just over 4,000 critical care beds across England, while health secretary Matt Hancock said Sunday that the UK has 5,000 available ventilators. Ill patients in Germany have thus far been able to recover quickly" some anomalies in german it seems a large % of young people have been infected "In Germany, more than 70 percent of the people identified as having been infected until now are between 20 and 50 years old," explained RKI president Lothar Wieler." since in the main it seems that younger people in the main are experencing milder symptoms. No post-mortem tests "Another explanation cited by Italian experts, could be that Germany, unlike other countries, tends not to test those who have already died. "We don't consider post-mortem tests to be a decisive factor. We work on the principle that patients are tested before they die," the RKI told AFP. That means that if a person dies in quarantine at home and does not go to hospital, there is a high chance they will not be included in the statistics, as Giovanni Maga of Italy's National Research Council pointed out in an interview with Euronews. " whilst that may have intially skewed results it does not explain them as time goes on as Germany iss testing anyone who reports symptoms
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Post by staffordshrew on Mar 20, 2020 17:32:39 GMT 1
Are some councils taking advantage? Stoke council is supposed to be thinking of delaying or even suspending domestic rubbish collection. So you have everyone at home, so more rubbish and the council thinking of cutting services>? Do they have so many workers ill? Are the workers in danger emptying a bin left outside someone'e property? I would say:No.
Councils need to keep things going normally in times of trouble if they possibly can.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Mar 20, 2020 17:35:01 GMT 1
Are some councils taking advantage? Stoke council is supposed to be thinking of delaying or even suspending domestic rubbish collection. So you have everyone at home, so more rubbish and the council thinking of cutting services>? Do thdey have so many workers ill? Are the workers in danger emptying a bin left outside someone'e property? I would say:No! Councils need to keep things going normally in times of trouble if they possibly can. brighton is doing the same you would think they would do more collections not less
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Post by cheggersdrinkspop on Mar 20, 2020 17:39:42 GMT 1
They should be seriously thinking of putting the council tax rise on hold if they are reducing services, they waste enough money as it is without giving them more money to give external contractors to tell them how to count to ten.
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Post by aghabullogueshrew on Mar 20, 2020 18:19:36 GMT 1
Bojo has announced the closure of pubs, cafes, cinemas etc! I understand that this is called closing the stable door after the horse has bolted! The man is stubborn, arrogant idiot!
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Post by frankwellshrews on Mar 20, 2020 18:20:17 GMT 1
Can we shut this nonsense down please? If anecdotal evidence is important to you, a colleague of mine's elderly father in law is in hospital with it, plus I've been informed today that 3 people who work for a client of my firm's in Wolverhampton are off with it (that was a fun ring round the two people in my team who've been working with them earlier on). A mate of a mate in Paris is also recovering from it. The fact is, the number of confirmed cases is vanishingly small as a proportion of the population because we're only now testing people in critical condition in hospital. Celebrities are more highly represented, I suspect, owing to access to private healthcare where on demand testing might be available. For Christ's sake don't let this lull you into thinking this is a false flag or some other tin foil hat nonsense (or just not a big deal). The heightened concern is around what's coming down the tracks more than what the situation is now. Interesting response. Personally, I don't know anyone who has the virus, nor do my family, nor my close friends. At work today (dare I say that?) my friends and colleagues also didn't seem to know anyone with virus. Of course this may change, but people can only discuss what is happening to them now, and talk about their own experiences. It doesn't mean it's not happening. And I am guessing all these people you know have had tests? The UK ones are confirmed cases. Couldn't tell you about the guy from France. Ominously I've just had an email from somebody to inform me another colleague couldn't dial into a call as he "is off work till April". No further details given though but I am in the process of chasing up via HR. Apparrently there is a cluster in the Black Country. Based on my experiences I suspect that there are even more confirmed cases than are being reported in the area, given I know of 4 and a possible 5th just in a professional context alone. Might be a good idea to start giving Telford a wider berth than usual.
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Post by scooter on Mar 20, 2020 18:29:09 GMT 1
Bojo has announced the closure of pubs, cafes, cinemas etc! I understand that this is called closing the stable door after the horse has bolted! The man is stubborn, arrogant idiot! Surely the plan all along has been to bring in these measures a few days or weeks apart, rather than impose an immediate clampdown weeks ago. This move was expected, I thought he might have left it till Monday wondering whether to nip out for a final pint now ?
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Post by thesensationaljt on Mar 20, 2020 20:01:59 GMT 1
Are some councils taking advantage? Stoke council is supposed to be thinking of delaying or even suspending domestic rubbish collection. Rat infested rubbish will pile up bringing back the Black Death. Oh well, that will take our minds off Coronavirus.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Mar 20, 2020 22:57:51 GMT 1
i know four people who have cornoavirus symptoms ,so two families in self isolation. they have not been tested because the goverment are not testing people . but at least they look to be doing a u trun on testing nhs staff
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Mar 20, 2020 23:03:10 GMT 1
This is a crisis which the biggest role that most of us can play in helping is sitting at home and watching TV - let's see if we can avoid ****ing that up. I can self isolate if needs be but do spare me having to watch TV during that time. The former is doadble, but having to watch TV is likely to kill more by suicide than the coronavirus will
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Mar 20, 2020 23:04:28 GMT 1
Bojo has announced the closure of pubs, cafes, cinemas etc! I understand that this is called closing the stable door after the horse has bolted! The man is stubborn, arrogant idiot! But just think back to the lucky let off we had only last December. Imaging old man Steptoe having to guide the country through this.......... 😣
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Post by thesensationaljt on Mar 20, 2020 23:07:06 GMT 1
Breaking news.
The Tokyo Olympic Games will go ahead, but Juan Competitor will allowed in each event.
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Post by darkshrew on Mar 21, 2020 18:01:16 GMT 1
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Post by stfc1969 on Mar 21, 2020 19:31:53 GMT 1
Bojo has announced the closure of pubs, cafes, cinemas etc! I understand that this is called closing the stable door after the horse has bolted! The man is stubborn, arrogant idiot! You honestly think he has been making the decisions?! Leaving party politics out of it for a bit, I don't think the gov has done a bad job and I'm reassured to see him flanked by the experts. Like Scootér said, pretty sure it would have been a planned phased process, i.e. not forcing closure immediately, but doing it gradually.
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Post by R6ix on Mar 22, 2020 0:13:40 GMT 1
Fair enough But let’s remember North Korea informed there public that they won the World Cup final, And some people still believe 9/11 was an act of terrorism... 9/11 was a inside job, think we all know that
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Post by staffordshrew on Mar 22, 2020 0:40:33 GMT 1
Are some councils taking advantage? Stoke council is supposed to be thinking of delaying or even suspending domestic rubbish collection. Rat infested rubbish will pile up bringing back the Black Death. Oh well, that will take our minds off Coronavirus. Such as panic bought food going off in a week or so because people bought too much?
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Post by Chief Inspector Swan on Mar 22, 2020 10:08:24 GMT 1
Fair enough But let’s remember North Korea informed there public that they won the World Cup final, And some people still believe 9/11 was an act of terrorism... 9/11 was a inside job, think we all know that “we all know that”
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Post by northwestman on Mar 22, 2020 11:31:14 GMT 1
www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/mar/20/coronavirus-has-exposed-a-desperate-need-for-localism'Most marked at present is food security. High streets have been shutting at an alarming rate. Goodness knows what will be left when the virus relents. British food retailing relies on private supply chains, and these, as shown in a new book, Feeding Britain by Tim Lang, are highly vulnerable to short-term shocks. Half of the UK’s food now comes from abroad, Lang says, and 90% of fruit and vegetables. First go the toilet rolls, then what'?
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Post by staffordshrew on Mar 22, 2020 11:49:57 GMT 1
www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/mar/20/coronavirus-has-exposed-a-desperate-need-for-localism'Most marked at present is food security. High streets have been shutting at an alarming rate. Goodness knows what will be left when the virus relents. British food retailing relies on private supply chains, and these, as shown in a new book, Feeding Britain by Tim Lang, are highly vulnerable to short-term shocks. Half of the UK’s food now comes from abroad, Lang says, and 90% of fruit and vegetables. First go the toilet rolls, then what'? Plus most of the stuff that is grown in this country is tended and picked by workers who come in from abroad and won't be coming this year. From a supply chain point of view, stuff could by rotting in the fields and not able to enter the supply chain.
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Post by scooter on Mar 22, 2020 12:30:14 GMT 1
www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/mar/20/coronavirus-has-exposed-a-desperate-need-for-localism'Most marked at present is food security. High streets have been shutting at an alarming rate. Goodness knows what will be left when the virus relents. British food retailing relies on private supply chains, and these, as shown in a new book, Feeding Britain by Tim Lang, are highly vulnerable to short-term shocks. Half of the UK’s food now comes from abroad, Lang says, and 90% of fruit and vegetables. First go the toilet rolls, then what'? Plus most of the stuff that is grown in this country is tended and picked by workers who come in from abroad and won't be coming this year. From a supply chain point of view, stuff could by rotting in the fields and not able to enter the supply chain. Pick Your Own, staying 2 yards apart
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Post by northwestman on Mar 22, 2020 14:24:09 GMT 1
Plus most of the stuff that is grown in this country is tended and picked by workers who come in from abroad and won't be coming this year. From a supply chain point of view, stuff could by rotting in the fields and not able to enter the supply chain. Pick Your Own, staying 2 yards apart The residents of East Anglia won't be at all happy with that if Londoners take up your suggestion.
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Post by R6ix on Mar 22, 2020 22:06:42 GMT 1
9/11 was a inside job, think we all know that “we all know that” well wtc 7 was a controlled demolition,a huge building that fell in on its on footprint, and never hit by a plane, the other 2 towers fell in free fall, meaning no resistance from 70 odd levels of healthy structure could delay the fall,in the history of steel sky scrapers only 3 have ever collapsed due to fire,all 3 were on sept 11 2001
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Post by dachshund on Mar 22, 2020 22:20:21 GMT 1
Christ almighty lads there’s some awful s**te in this thread
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Post by R6ix on Mar 22, 2020 22:47:17 GMT 1
sadly yes
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