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Post by northwestman on Apr 27, 2020 15:41:45 GMT 1
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Post by zenfootball2 on Apr 27, 2020 16:19:20 GMT 1
they were doing the same in wales for a £10,000 small buisness grant as many second homes switched from paying council tax to a business rates to get a rebate from that of up to £6,000 a year , when this grant became avaiable i don know how many got paid but ; www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/new-guidance-block-thousands-second-18134797"Thousands of second home owners will not be able to take advantage of an “unethical loophole” allowing them to access taxpayer-funded grants during the lockdown, the Welsh Government has confirmed." " dyfrig Siencyn, had warned that such a loophole could result in millions of pounds “lining the pockets” of second home owners, with the Welsh Government package aimed at firms employing fewer than nine people." |
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Post by zenfootball2 on Apr 27, 2020 19:27:42 GMT 1
ABC
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"The State Government has relaxed the two-person limit on public gatherings, with up to 10 people now allowed to meet.
West Australians can now also leave home for non-contact recreational activities such as private picnics in the park, fishing, boating, hiking or camping."
"Australia Prime Minister Scott Morrison said last week that both he and New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern had discussed the possibility of reopening tourism between the two countries in what’s being referred to as a “trans-Tasman bubble."
new Zealand has also started to ease the lockdown
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Post by claphamshrew on Apr 27, 2020 19:30:53 GMT 1
If you want to watch how the press are trying to dictate the agenda watch the headline piece on Channel 4 news just now. Jon Snow left with his pants around his ankles trying to create a conflict between John Caudwell a Tory donor, and a leading epidemiologist, and failing miserably! The way he was trying to put words in John Caudwell’s mouth was disgraceful and he was quite rightly put down.
Ironically what resulted was quite an informative and (disappointingly for Channel 4) neutral discussion.
Another example is the way questions were done in the Commons today, where the opposing political parties lead by Rishi Sunak and Anneliese Dodds had a sensible, adult discussion, with both credit and criticism given where needed.
More of the same please.
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Post by northwestman on Apr 27, 2020 19:59:07 GMT 1
www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/apr/27/gaps-sage-scientific-body-scientists-medicalAt its first meeting on 28 January, Sage didn’t ask its mathematical modellers to model a community testing programme. Community testing and contact tracing reportedly wasn’t included as a possible strategy in the original modelling because not enough tests were available. The UK had been among the first countries to develop a Covid-19 test in mid-January, approved by the WHO, and has an exceptional national research infrastructure. Yet our national capacity to respond to a pandemic challenge appears to have been ignored. The basic principles of public health, and the daily mantra of the WHO – to find the virus, test, trace and isolate, to promote social distancing, and to do it all at speed – appear to have been effectively disregarded. Whatever was discussed by Sage during February led to an alternative strategy, laid out by Boris Johnson, Vallance and Whitty at the beginning of March: to move from containing the virus to delaying its spread, allowing it to move through the population so that we eventually acquire “herd immunity” at a delayed speed. So at a moment when the UK had fewer than 10 deaths from Covid-19 and less than 500 confirmed cases of coronavirus, the government, informed by Sage, decided to stop all community testing and tracing. The public health community were perplexed. It is difficult to think of other severe viral epidemics managed in this way, apart from influenza, which differs from coronvirus in important ways. Six weeks later, the approach favoured by the WHO – testing, tracing and isolating the virus – is ostensibly back on the agenda. Matt Hancock has pledged that the UK will deliver 100,000 tests a day by the end of this week, with the army, Deloitte, Serco and Boots setting up test centres across the country. Health workers and their families can sign up for tests immediately. All hospital patients will be tested. Yet the government is bypassing the local authority public health teams and GPs who are at the forefront of routine screening and testing in the NHS and local communities. Its strategy still appears to be about flattening the curve, rather than finding every case of coronavirus. Without testing, tracing those who have come into contact with infected people and isolating these clusters, the virus will flare up again.
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Post by SeanBroseley on Apr 28, 2020 2:31:40 GMT 1
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Post by staffordshrew on Apr 28, 2020 10:11:09 GMT 1
I don't know if there is going to be anything to bring us all together for the 11 O'Clock minutes silence? I hanker for a whistle at the start, total observance, then a whistle at the end, the collective formality of it all. Will settle for a social distanced minute's silence to commemorate the key workers who have died with coronavirus with the knowledge that Boris is taking part.
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Post by ( you know who from b&a ) on Apr 28, 2020 11:01:01 GMT 1
I don't know if there is going to be anything to bring us all together for the 11 O'Clock minutes silence? I hanker for a whistle at the start, total observance, then a whistle at the end, the collective formality of it all. Will settle for a social distanced minute's silence to commemorate the key workers who have died with coronavirus with the knowledge that Boris is taking part. I really find these gatherings all an unnecessary risk police swoop in all guns blazing if a couple dare to be sat minding their own business on a remote beach but hundreds of hospital staff not even 2 meters apart seems bizarre |
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Post by shrewder on Apr 28, 2020 11:21:41 GMT 1
Observed silence. A very appropriate and moving time.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Apr 28, 2020 11:34:13 GMT 1
medics warn of a spike if lockdown measuers are lified and they are right, as we go through each phase there will be a spike and sadly some people will die but equally we cant live in a lockdown forver.
it is disapointing htat the goverment have still not sorted out PPE supply issues and at the snails pace they have set combined with incompetence, they will probably arrive after the worst has passed.,
i would suspect that increasing numbers are ignoring lockdown any way, so it would be better if the goverment got a grip on this before public support wanes. the crucial time is when? have our numbers come down enough yet ?also to really be more thoutough we need to dramatically increase testing number for covid-19 and for people who have antibodies.
one compliaction is this suspected mutation of covid-19 that is affecting children. an australian virologist warned of numerous mutations in early february.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Apr 28, 2020 17:26:59 GMT 1
prior to this pandemic i mainly used cash ; as the number of cash machine were been reduced and the sensibly guidance to use contacless i wonder if when and if things return to normal will cash be a thing of the past ?
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Post by northwestman on Apr 28, 2020 17:48:08 GMT 1
Can't see that this suggestion is likely to be taken up by the Government, as the obvious weakness is that customers will have 3 pints in one pub, then switch to the next. But at least it shows that pubs are on the agenda. www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8264199/Coronavirus-UK-Britons-face-two-three-pint-limit-bid-stop-day-drinkers.htmlPubs could reopen if landlords rationed beer to two or three pints per customer then asked them to go home to help with social distancing measures, it has been claimed. Lockdown adviser Professor Eyal Winter, of Lancaster University, said people were 'starving' for pubs which he described as 'an important part of British culture'. Mr Winter, an economist advising politicians on how to ease the coronavirus restrictions, said social distancing would have to be enforced if pubs reopen. |
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Post by zenfootball2 on Apr 28, 2020 22:00:11 GMT 1
www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-52436658"New Zealand says it has stopped community transmission of Covid-19, effectively eliminating the virus. With new cases in single figures for several days - one on Sunday - Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern said the virus was currently" eliminated.But officials have warned against complacency, saying it does not mean a total end to new coronavirus cases." "We are opening up the economy, but we're not opening up people's social lives," Ms Ardern said at the daily government briefing.New Zealand, a country of nearly 5 million people, has reported fewer than 1,500 confirmed or probable cases of coronavirus and 19 deaths."
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Post by staffordshrew on Apr 28, 2020 23:45:19 GMT 1
Can't see that this suggestion is likely to be taken up by the Government, as the obvious weakness is that customers will have 3 pints in one pub, then switch to the next. But at least it shows that pubs are on the agenda. www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8264199/Coronavirus-UK-Britons-face-two-three-pint-limit-bid-stop-day-drinkers.htmlPubs could reopen if landlords rationed beer to two or three pints per customer then asked them to go home to help with social distancing measures, it has been claimed. Lockdown adviser Professor Eyal Winter, of Lancaster University, said people were 'starving' for pubs which he described as 'an important part of British culture'. Mr Winter, an economist advising politicians on how to ease the coronavirus restrictions, said social distancing would have to be enforced if pubs reopen. Darts might resume, but dominoes and crib are out! |
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Post by northwestman on Apr 29, 2020 10:21:09 GMT 1
Carrie has produced a baby boy.
We've already been told that Boris won't now be at PMQs.
Paternity leave next?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2020 11:02:10 GMT 1
Carrie has produced a baby boy. We've already been told that Boris won't now be at PMQs. Paternity leave next? Well it’s a right you agree with eh...... or only for some people |
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Post by ( you know who from b&a ) on Apr 29, 2020 11:06:56 GMT 1
Carrie has produced a baby boy. We've already been told that Boris won't now be at PMQs. Paternity leave next? yeah, just put him up for adoption and get back to work now |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2020 11:12:22 GMT 1
Carrie has produced a baby boy. We've already been told that Boris won't now be at PMQs. Paternity leave next? yeah, just put him up for adoption and get back to work now Anything for a day off.... nearly dying, having a child.... what will he think of next |
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Post by northwestman on Apr 29, 2020 11:13:04 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2020 11:20:15 GMT 1
Theee is leave, and then just taking the day off for birth, but you have already decided what you think, regardless, the entitlement is there so if he takes it, so what, but I am sure he will decide what’s best for his family and his job role, all of which will attract the venom of his haters
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Post by Exkeeper on Apr 29, 2020 11:20:51 GMT 1
Carrie has produced a baby boy. We've already been told that Boris won't now be at PMQs. Paternity leave next? Well it’s a right you agree with eh...... or only for some people It is unfortunate timing though - I was looking forward to Starmer “tearing him a new one”. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2020 11:23:40 GMT 1
Well it’s a right you agree with eh...... or only for some people It is unfortunate timing though - I was looking forward to Starmer “tearing him a new one”. More chance of Wrexham playing in the premiership |
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Post by northwestman on Apr 29, 2020 11:33:14 GMT 1
www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-28/top-aide-to-u-k-s-johnson-pushed-scientists-to-back-lockdownBoris Johnson’s most powerful political aide pressed the U.K.’s independent scientific advisers to recommend lockdown measures in an effort to stop the spread of coronavirus, according to people familiar with the matter. According to two people involved, Cummings played far more than a bystander’s role at a crucial SAGE meeting on March 18, as the panel discussed social distancing options to tackle the Covid-19 outbreak. Speaking on condition of anonymity because the meetings are private, the people said Cummings asked why a lockdown was not being imposed sooner, swayed the discussion toward faster action, and made clear he thought pubs and restaurants should be closed within two days. They then were. The prime minister’s office denied that political advisers influenced the experts on the SAGE committee and said it was appropriate for aides to sit in on meetings and to ask questions. The two people who took part in the meeting said Cummings’s actions went further than simply asking for information. The suggestion that Cummings influenced the group’s lockdown decisions is likely to cast doubt on the government’s assurances that it has simply followed scientific advice throughout the crisis.
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Post by staffordshrew on Apr 29, 2020 11:40:52 GMT 1
I didn't think she was due yet. I hope everything is ok.
The cabinet are certainly having to work hard. At the end of this Boris should have an idea if there are any duffers, Priti? Hancock? the never popular Jenrick?
Currently some major decisions that he might be able to consider while he is missing, including: How do we get the shops open if the schools aren't open? What happens to the workers children?
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Post by ( you know who from b&a ) on Apr 29, 2020 11:42:31 GMT 1
I think the last place on earth Boris wanted to be today was back at that hospital and what a time to have a new born I certainly wouldn't want to trade places with him at the moment would you ? |
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Post by northwestman on Apr 29, 2020 11:46:15 GMT 1
I think the last place on earth Boris wanted to be today was back at that hospital and what a time to have a new born I certainly wouldn't want to trade places with him at the moment would you ? PMQs with Starmer asking him about care home deaths, PPE, testing and SAGE wouldn't have been much fun either! |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2020 11:55:31 GMT 1
I think the last place on earth Boris wanted to be today was back at that hospital and what a time to have a new born I certainly wouldn't want to trade places with him at the moment would you ? PMQs with Starmer asking him about care home deaths, PPE, testing and SAGE wouldn't have been much fun either! Yeah, sure head s**tting himself over that😂😂😂 1st 2 questions wasted don’t you think? |
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Post by frankwellshrews on Apr 29, 2020 12:05:16 GMT 1
Bit baffled by that. Do they mean the standard two weeks? I suppose some self employed people might find it hard to use but as a wage slave I took it both times and don't know any fellow new dads who didn't. Did split weeks the first time as baby number one landed at an awkward time work wise, don't know if that impacts it? I wonder if they might be talking about the extended paternity leave some places do now; I had the option to take another month but this would have cut my wife's maternity down by the same amount which shepoint blank refused to countenance. Wonder how many others have had similar issues? |
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Post by staffordshrew on Apr 29, 2020 12:11:46 GMT 1
The baby was, I assume, born in an NHS hospital? With Boris' experience of the NHS in the last couple of months it will be safe to assume his intentions are right towards the NHS. He may still do things some don't like, but the concept of the NHS should be safe in his hands.
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Post by staffordshrew on Apr 29, 2020 12:27:48 GMT 1
It is unfortunate timing though - I was looking forward to Starmer “tearing him a new one”. More chance of Wrexham playing in the premiership You're living in the political past, we are all in this together, it's not going to be one side shouting down everything the other side says and does for a long time. Don't underestimate Starmer, he has already earned a Sir, he'll ask pertinent questions and call out the government when it's needed, but support them when it's right to support them. |
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