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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2019 9:46:56 GMT 1
I have been searching the web for info regarding wtfc,the real wellington town i mean,not the telford nonsense.can't find stuff like club nickname,or what was their strip colour,anyone know anything about this?or indeed any old information on wellington town i would be grateful for.
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Post by horse01 on May 16, 2019 10:07:09 GMT 1
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Post by philharvey on May 16, 2019 10:40:34 GMT 1
Have got some old Programmes dating back to the fifties , will have a look and see if there is any info in them, can remember Going there to watch Salop beat them two nil in the Shropshire Senior cup finali think in 58, one of the only two times that big Arthur Rowley missed a penalty.Will have a look for them.
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Post by philharvey on May 16, 2019 10:58:36 GMT 1
I have been searching the web for info regarding wtfc,the real wellington town i mean,not the telford nonsense.can't find stuff like club nickname,or what was their strip colour,anyone know anything about this?or indeed any old information on wellington town i would be grateful for.
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Post by Minormorris64 on May 16, 2019 11:15:20 GMT 1
I have been searching the web for info regarding wtfc,the real wellington town i mean,not the telford nonsense.can't find stuff like club nickname,or what was their strip colour,anyone know anything about this?or indeed any old information on wellington town i would be grateful for. me 2 seconds
fchd.info/WELLINGT.HTM
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Parish Church Institute & Wellington Town
The club was formed in late 1872 as Parish Church Institute, and in 1879 was renamed Wellington Town. They won the Shropshire Senior Cup in 1881, and in 1892 were founder members of the Shropshire League.[1] In 1898 they joined the Birmingham & District League. In 1901 they switched to The Combination and won the Welsh Cup, before returning to the Birmingham & District League in 1902. They won the Welsh Cup for a second time in 1906–07.
They left the league again at the end of the 1905–06 season, but returned in 1908. In 1920–21 they won the league for the first time, and in 1925–26 reached the first round of the FA Cup for the first time, something they repeated for the next two seasons and again in 1929–30. In 1930–31 they reached the second round. The club won back-to-back titles in 1934–35 and 1935–36, before switching to the Cheshire County League in 1938. However, they returned to the Birmingham & District League after a single season and went on to win the league and the Welsh Cup again in 1939–40.
After World War II they joined the Cheshire County League, winning the title in 1945–46 and 1946–47 and again in 1951–52. In 1958 they moved up to the expanded Southern League, and were placed in the Premier Division for the 1959–60 season after a transitional year in the North-West Division.
www.wrekinnews.co.uk/event/history-of-wellington-town-football-club/
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Post by philharvey on May 16, 2019 11:17:06 GMT 1
Just found some old programmes , scanning through them Wellington first won the Shropshire Senior cup in 1880/81 and up to 1958 won a total of 20 times, the great Johnny Hancocks formerly of The Wolves great team of the 50,s was once their player / manager , they were Cheshire league champions in 45/46 46/47 51/52 , Welsh senior cup winners 1901/2 1905/ 06 1939/40 , they played their games at Watling street, interestingly in 57/58 season in Cheshire league some of their opponents were Ellsmere port, Port Vale reserves ? Chester, Tranmere,Wrexham res, Rhyl, Crewe, Macclesfield,and a few others.it seems in the 58 season they wore black shorts and white tops., can't seem to find too much more info.
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Post by davycrockett on May 16, 2019 11:48:07 GMT 1
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Post by LetchworthShrew on May 16, 2019 13:14:35 GMT 1
Changed name to Telford United in 1969.
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Post by tdk on May 16, 2019 14:54:29 GMT 1
When my Father In Law was a nipper in the 1930's his mother used to sit him on the wall outside the Buck's Head to watch the fighting when Wellington and Shrewsbury fans came out after the match.
Well they didn't have a radio in those days and this was the entertainment
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2019 17:36:42 GMT 1
When my Father In Law was a nipper in the 1930's his mother used to sit him on the wall outside the Buck's Head to watch the fighting when Wellington and Shrewsbury fans came out after the match. Well they didn't have a radio in those days and this was the entertainment Blimey didn't know the rivalry was that old or that violent.thankyou all though gents,who have provided me with information on my inquiry,I appreciate it.
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Post by scooter on May 16, 2019 19:26:26 GMT 1
Traditionally wore white, I have a recollection they used to be known as the Lillywhites
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Post by gainsparkshrew on May 16, 2019 19:39:54 GMT 1
Completely different club. Wellington Amateurs were founded in 1950 by former pupils of Wellington Grammar School,and were known as Old Wellingtonians. Wellington Town were formed in 1872 and changed their name to Telford United in the early 1970's. As Scooter has posted they played in white, their home was The Bucks Head and they were nicknamed "The Lillywhites" Sorry O/P but your "not the Telford Utd nonsense", has rebounded on you as Wellington Town became Telford Utd
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Post by The Shropshire Tenor on May 16, 2019 19:40:00 GMT 1
Traditionally wore white, I have a recollection they used to be known as the Lillywhites I think you’re right, I remember SSC games with them in the 1950/60s were proper derbies with big crowds. I had some photos of those games showing Gay Meadow full, but I sent them to the club at the time of the move to MWM and said that I didn’t want them back. Regretting that now!
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on May 16, 2019 19:44:14 GMT 1
I have been searching the web for info regarding wtfc,the real wellington town i mean,not the telford nonsense.can't find stuff like club nickname,or what was their strip colour,anyone know anything about this?or indeed any old information on wellington town i would be grateful for. They were indeed nicknames the Lillywhites, no doubt due to their colours which more or less still exist today. When I was a youngster who wasnt allowed to travel to other clubs I watched them quite a bit in the early 70s when Jack Bentley (father on Morcambe manager Jim) was banging in goals for fun and Graham Carr (father of comedian Alan Carr) was captain. Other players of note that I remember were Ron Flowers (England 1966 squad player) and Jimmy Murray (ex Wolves).
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2019 19:50:14 GMT 1
That's interesting to me,they used to play at watling st.also interesting,they used to play in white,and were nicknamed the lillywhites.so do telford utd.telford utd really did do a number on wtfc,I find it shocking they were allowed to do it.to me it was nearly as bad as wimbledon,and the joke club known as mk dons.
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on May 16, 2019 19:57:47 GMT 1
That's interesting to me,they used to play at watling st.also interesting,they used to play in white,and were nicknamed the lillywhites.so do telford utd.telford utd really did do a number on wtfc,I find it shocking they were allowed to do it.to me it was nearly as bad as wimbledon,and the joke club known as mk dons. No, the Wellington Town name change was in 1969 (??), and just reflected the growing new town of Telford. No takover or anything like that, just a change of name with the same people running it. The first and second season of the new name saw them getting to Wembley in the newly instigated FA Trophy, winning the second and losing the first to Macclesfield.
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Post by scooter on May 16, 2019 19:58:31 GMT 1
That's interesting to me,they used to play at watling st.also interesting,they used to play in white,and were nicknamed the lillywhites.so do telford utd.telford utd really did do a number on wtfc,I find it shocking they were allowed to do it.to me it was nearly as bad as wimbledon,and the joke club known as mk dons. It was the same club and at the same ground they just changed the name to Telford because Wellington was part of Telford New Town. They probably got some money from Telford Development Corporation at the time
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Post by horse01 on May 16, 2019 20:30:31 GMT 1
Completely different club. Wellington Amateurs were founded in 1950 by former pupils of Wellington Grammar School,and were known as Old Wellingtonians. Wellington Town were formed in 1872 and changed their name to Telford United in the early 1970's. As Scooter has posted they played in white, their home was The Bucks Head and they were nicknamed "The Lillywhites" Sorry O/P but your "not the Telford Utd nonsense", has rebounded on you as Wellington Town became Telford Utd That’s that sorted then 👍🏻
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Post by Minormorris64 on May 17, 2019 12:00:56 GMT 1
WELLINGTON TOWN
1890-91 Founder member of Shropshire League 1896-97 Shropshire League Winners 1897-98 Welsh Cup semi-finalists Shropshire League Winners (2nd time) 1898-99 Joined Birmingham & District League 1901-02 Welsh Cup Winners Joined The Combination 1902-03 Elected back into Birmingham & District League Welsh Cup semi-finalists 1905-06 Welsh Cup Winners (2nd time) 1906 Left Birmingham & District League 1908-09 Rejoined Birmingham & District League 1919-20 Birmingham & District League runner-up 1920-21 Birmingham & District League Champions on goal average 1921-22 Birmingham & District League runner-up 1927-28 Birmingham & District League runner-up (missed title on goal average) 1934-35 Birmingham & District League Champions (2nd time) 1935-36 Birmingham & District League Champions (3rd time) 1938-39 Joined Cheshire County League 1939-40 Joined Birmingham & District League for wartime competion Birmingham & District League Champions (4th time) One game, home to Stafford Rangers not played Welsh Cup Winners 1940-41 Birmingham & District Wartime League runner-up 1945-46 Returned to Cheshire County League Cheshire County League Champions 1946-47 Cheshire County League Champions (2nd time) 1951-52 Cheshire County League Champions (3rd time) 1952-53 Cheshire County League runner-up 1954-55 Cheshire County League runner-up 1958-59 Joined Southern League North Western zone 1969 Changed name to Telford United
Taken from fchd.info/WELLINGT.HTM
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Post by socrates1974 on May 17, 2019 13:56:54 GMT 1
Traditionally wore white, I have a recollection they used to be known as the Lillywhites Indeed. Andy Shaw bought Telford and changed the nickname to The Bucks because he felt Lilywhites was a bit weak. He also changed their colours from White to Red, and also changed their badge which originally was the same as their current badge (apart from the Latin for ' we went bust ' or whatever it stands for.
So, he changed the strip, nickname and badge. Sort of a Vincent Tam figure for the non league scene. Oh yeah, and he bankrupted them.
The fans won't hear a bad word said about him though!
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2019 18:20:08 GMT 1
What i meant by telford utd nonsense,was that wtfc was the town team of wellington.the nonsense i refer to is the club lost its identity,and soul,with the name change.telford covers a large area encompassing,other smaller towns and villages,like oakengates for example.my gran came from wellington not wellington,Hadley,oakengates,dawley etc.for me they destroyed wellington town fc,with indeed the telford nonsense.or bollox as I prefer.
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Post by Namur on May 17, 2019 18:53:31 GMT 1
Traditionally wore white, I have a recollection they used to be known as the Lillywhites Indeed. Andy Shaw bought Telford and changed the nickname to The Bucks because he felt Lilywhites was a bit weak. He also changed their colours from White to Red, and also changed their badge which originally was the same as their current badge (apart from the Latin for ' we went bust ' or whatever it stands for.
So, he changed the strip, nickname and badge. Sort of a Vincent Tam figure for the non league scene. Oh yeah, and he bankrupted them.
The fans won't hear a bad word said about him though!
He was involved with Hednesford Town for a while, Miras Contracts being the shirt sponsor and the company headquarters were on the same brownfield site as the ground. IIRC the board didn’t want him taking majority control of the club, at which points he went to Telford.
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Post by gainsparkshrew on May 17, 2019 19:55:10 GMT 1
What i meant by telford utd nonsense,was that wtfc was the town team of wellington.the nonsense i refer to is the club lost its identity,and soul,with the name change.telford covers a large area encompassing,other smaller towns and villages,like oakengates for example.my gran came from wellington not wellington,Hadley,oakengates,dawley etc.for me they destroyed wellington town fc,with indeed the telford nonsense.or bollox as I prefer. I imagine that it was the decision of the Directors to change the name no doubt in the belief that by renaming themselves that it would increase their support with people who had moved to Telford. I accept that there are many clubs who have the name of a suburb of the city/town that they are from, e.g all of the London clubs, Aston Villa, Everton and Tranmere etc, however I tend to believe that by changing from Wellington Town to Telford United was beneficial to the club initially.
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Post by Dale on May 18, 2019 8:02:16 GMT 1
Traditionally wore white, I have a recollection they used to be known as the Lillywhites Indeed. Andy Shaw bought Telford and changed the nickname to The Bucks because he felt Lilywhites was a bit weak. He also changed their colours from White to Red, and also changed their badge which originally was the same as their current badge (apart from the Latin for ' we went bust ' or whatever it stands for.
So, he changed the strip, nickname and badge. Sort of a Vincent Tam figure for the non league scene. Oh yeah, and he bankrupted them.
The fans won't hear a bad word said about him though!
I’m not sure about that, some Telford fans will never forgive him for his reckless spending in his desperate pursuit to overtake STFC as the county’s leading football club, I guess the ground today is the only legacy he has left although AFCTU are very fortunate that Telford & Wrekin Council have always been very supportive, when the old TUFC went bust I think the council bought the ground back off the receiver for £50k and then leased it back to AFCTU for virtually next to nothing. Andy Shaw did seem to be a bit of a egotistical figure (in football terms anyway) and think Hednesford Town dodged a bullet there, since Telford went bust I’ve not really heard anything about him, wonder what he is up to now...
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Post by Dale on May 18, 2019 8:07:47 GMT 1
What i meant by telford utd nonsense,was that wtfc was the town team of wellington.the nonsense i refer to is the club lost its identity,and soul,with the name change.telford covers a large area encompassing,other smaller towns and villages,like oakengates for example.my gran came from wellington not wellington,Hadley,oakengates,dawley etc.for me they destroyed wellington town fc,with indeed the telford nonsense.or bollox as I prefer. I think there were a few senior non league clubs in the ‘Telford area’ as we know today that played in the Birmingham League along with Salop, there was Wellington Town, Oakengates Town, Ironbridge, Wellington St.Georges and GKN Sankey from Hadley were a works team that went on to climb up to a decent level of non league football and played Salop in the SSC I believe.
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