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Post by zenfootball2 on May 13, 2019 17:14:16 GMT 1
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-48253507"Former secretary of Sheffield Wednesday Football Club, Graham Mackrell, is the first person to be convicted of an offence relating to the tragedy. Mackrell, 69, of Stocking Pelham, Hertfordshire, failed to ensure there were enough turnstiles to prevent large crowds building up. The stadium safety officer in charge at the time of the Hillsborough disaster has been fined £6,500. He was also ordered to pay £5,000 towards the prosecution costs. Ninety-six Liverpool fans died following the crush in the central pens of the Leppings Lane terrace at the FA Cup semi-final between Liverpool and Nottingham Forest on 15 April 1989." "He was found guilty last month after an 11-week trial of failing to discharge a duty under the Health and Safety at Work Act in respect of ensuring there were enough turnstiles to prevent unduly large crowds building up outside the ground. The jury in the trial was unable to reach a verdict over match commander David Duckenfield, 74, who denied the gross negligence manslaughter of 95 Liverpool fans." i cant imagine that any relatives of the victims of this tragedy will be pleased with this outcome.
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Post by haughmond on May 13, 2019 17:48:24 GMT 1
What is the point. The man may have made mistakes, but I am sure those higher up the chain are equally as culpable as the Secretary. The fine fulfills nothing, it is a token gesture because some- one has to be seen to be responsible. Will it be the balm that heal’s the wounds of relatives, no. But then again how much money will heal wounds, in my opinion no amount of money can ever be enough to stop the grief and hurt. The ground itself was described as old, dilapidated and not suitable to stage big matches well before this tragedy, so why did the F.A. even consider the ground as suitable. Maybe , because of its capacity it ticked all the boxes. Big crowd, big revenue.
In light of this, maybe the decision to stage semifinals at Wembley can be seen to be a wise one.
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Post by zenfootball2 on May 14, 2019 10:42:09 GMT 1
What is the point. The man may have made mistakes, but I am sure those higher up the chain are equally as culpable as the Secretary. The fine fulfills nothing, it is a token gesture because some- one has to be seen to be responsible. Will it be the balm that heal’s the wounds of relatives, no. But then again how much money will heal wounds, in my opinion no amount of money can ever be enough to stop the grief and hurt. The ground itself was described as old, dilapidated and not suitable to stage big matches well before this tragedy, so why did the F.A. even consider the ground as suitable. Maybe , because of its capacity it ticked all the boxes. Big crowd, big revenue. In light of this, maybe the decision to stage semifinals at Wembley can be seen to be a wise one. i cant see anything would heal the wounds , but people higher up the chain getting some sort of punishment may feel like some justice has been done. as it is this is nothing more than a token gesture.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2019 18:42:48 GMT 1
Token gesture it is,but was it really worth the millions that's been spent,and the mental suffering of those used as scapegoats.it was a very tragic event,and had a multitude of causes.what justice do the families want from all this,jail sentences,massive fines,it's all so very pointless to me.let the fans rest in peace,and let's never forget them.but making others suffer and looking for retribution is just wrong in my opinion.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2019 22:37:39 GMT 1
Token gesture it is,but was it really worth the millions that's been spent,and the mental suffering of those used as scapegoats.it was a very tragic event,and had a multitude of causes.what justice do the families want from all this,jail sentences,massive fines,it's all so very pointless to me.let the fans rest in peace,and let's never forget them.but making others suffer and looking for retribution is just wrong in my opinion. So if someone was guilty of committing Manslaughter against one of your family, you would be happy to just leave it would you?!
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2019 7:56:55 GMT 1
When it's such a complicated issue and so long ago,yes I would be happy to leave it.do you think the man's punishment i.e a fine,made the families happy with the conclusion,and thought we'll that was worth it all.
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Post by zenfootball2 on May 16, 2019 8:04:28 GMT 1
When it's such a complicated issue and so long ago,yes I would be happy to leave it.do you think the man's punishment i.e a fine,made the families happy with the conclusion,and thought we'll that was worth it all. after such a time and hte way hte establishment delt with it, the chances of the family getting any justice was low. but hte peole who died were villified in the press and by the etablishment. i have thought the police investigating themselves is not somthing that inspires confidence for some people. most have got away with this scott free many with large pensions. so i understand why the families pursued this and did not let it go. the only winners are the lawyers .
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