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Post by Bob Rickerton on Jan 10, 2019 19:48:43 GMT 1
While it does seem peculiar we're letting a player go who's wanted by the top two in the league, I think this is a case of a player becoming better in people's minds when they're away for a bit. He wasn't any more than alright when called upon last season, and I'm not sure he's really any better than Laurent or (certainly) Norburn.
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Post by shrewswolf on Jan 10, 2019 19:51:46 GMT 1
If I’m perfectly honest, I fail to see what Laurent has offered us so far?? Whether CAM is his natural/best position, I’m not sure? I think Morris has been a very tidy player whenever he has played for us? Unlucky not to score at Wembley when his shot hit the bar. And has notched 3 times as many goals as Laurent so far this season!! I agree on Laurent. Decent between the boxes in terms of running but technically way below what we need, especially in both boxes. It’s no surprise we still continue to be rather toothless.
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Post by criftins on Jan 10, 2019 19:53:32 GMT 1
He played the first part of this season in a side in our league who have been better than us. Now he's been linked with moves to two of the sides who are chasing automatic promotion to The Championship. Yet some people would still be happy to see him leave in this transfer window. Yes I would never seen him offer anything better than what we had last or this season . For me he’s inferior to Laurent and most definitely Norburn
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2019 19:54:12 GMT 1
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Post by Stewie Shrew on Jan 10, 2019 19:56:01 GMT 1
What’s the big deal here? He wasnt first choice under Hurst, wasnt under Askey and didn’t play all the time at Wycombe, if he goes to Pompey he wont be first choice there I guess
Players come and go that’s what they do
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Post by markievw on Jan 10, 2019 19:56:39 GMT 1
This takes the p**s. If he is good enough for Portsmouth he is certainly good enough for us
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Post by bordersalopian on Jan 10, 2019 20:00:11 GMT 1
This takes the p**s. If he is good enough for Portsmouth he is certainly good enough for us Depends on the calibre of player Ricketts brings in to replace him? I’d suspect that we’ll see a couple of loaners from Wolves and possibly Reading with Dave Edwards connection there? Also, Eric Ramsey was heavily involved in the Welsh FA Youth programme before joining us...could be a couple of promising yo7ngsters inbound from the Wales U19/U21 set up?
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Post by tvor on Jan 10, 2019 20:17:46 GMT 1
You heard it heard third!
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Post by Worthingshrew on Jan 10, 2019 22:13:39 GMT 1
Swap for Brett Pitman? Lol
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Post by Mortgagehound on Jan 10, 2019 22:56:54 GMT 1
Morris to Pompey and playing every week.....no cuance
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Post by dewsburyshrew on Jan 11, 2019 0:22:52 GMT 1
I know that aplayers record at youth level can be misleading but Bryn was captain of England in every age group from under14 to under19, He was clearly a real player and a leader, I don't know if he went off the rails lost interest or what. I think these other coins see the potential and think they can get him going again.
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Post by venceremos on Jan 11, 2019 1:32:44 GMT 1
While it does seem pec we're letting a player go who's wanted by the top two in the league, I think this is a case of a player becoming better in people's minds when they're away for a bit. He wasn't any more than alright when called upon last season, and I'm not sure he's really any better than Laurent or (certainly) Norburn. If we were just arguing about whether he should be in the team or offered a new contract, you’d have a point. But the top two teams in our league have an interest in him and he’s played half the season for a team with fewer resources than us but which has outperformed us. We’re in this season now, not last season - Ogogo seems worse this season, MacGillivray seems better; things change. He may be better in our minds but he seems also to have been better in the minds of Kenny Jackett, Nathan Jones and Gareth Ainsworth, so ...... I fear Norburn and Laurent are better in the minds of some people than the reality others amongst us have seen. Anyway, it seems to be too late for us with Morris. If Portsmouth are in for him it’s a no-brainer - new, and no doubt much better, contract with a potentially Championship club - and one that could stay up there - or return to see out a contract with a club struggling near the bottom of League 1 (how can that be, with our great midfield!?) that isn’t keen on him. No decision to be made really.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2019 1:38:41 GMT 1
Isn't it a bit strange that higher place sides in Wycombe, then Luton and Portsmouth (top of the tree) are all after Morris, clearly not a man going backwards in his career.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2019 1:39:35 GMT 1
Morris to Pompey and playing every week.....no cuance Just like Craig MacGilivaray then 😜
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Post by greeny on Jan 11, 2019 1:44:32 GMT 1
What club did Bryan Morris move to in the end? Always thought he was a decent player..
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2019 8:35:24 GMT 1
While it does seem pec we're letting a player go who's wanted by the top two in the league, I think this is a case of a player becoming better in people's minds when they're away for a bit. He wasn't any more than alright when called upon last season, and I'm not sure he's really any better than Laurent or (certainly) Norburn. If we were just arguing about whether he should be in the team or offered a new contract, you’d have a point. But the top two teams in our league have an interest in him and he’s played half the season for a team with fewer resources than us but which has outperformed us. We’re in this season now, not last season - Ogogo seems worse this season, MacGillivray seems better; things change. He may be better in our minds but he seems also to have been better in the minds of Kenny Jackett, Nathan Jones and Gareth Ainsworth, so ...... I fear Norburn and Laurent are better in the minds of some people than the reality others amongst us have seen. Anyway, it seems to be too late for us with Morris. If Portsmouth are in for him it’s a no-brainer - new, and no doubt much better, contract with a potentially Championship club - and one that could stay up there - or return to see out a contract with a club struggling near the bottom of League 1 (how can that be, with our great midfield!?) that isn’t keen on him. No decision to be made really. Never a problem with our midfield but the problem is the defence. How many points have been lost from winning or drawing positions this year in comparison with last?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2019 9:07:53 GMT 1
I think this is one of those we will look back on and rue the missed opportunity.
There’s a really good player in there somewhere and it seems the top two clubs in our league think so too.
Good luck Bryn.
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Post by thesensationaljt on Jan 11, 2019 9:29:53 GMT 1
Lettuce take the £2 million and move on.
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Post by shrewder on Jan 11, 2019 9:37:28 GMT 1
Yet another signing just cast aside without being given a real opportunity.
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Post by londonshrew75 on Jan 11, 2019 9:40:44 GMT 1
So two of the top 3 want him, but Askey said no......Right. To say the balance of the squad is wrong would be an understatement.
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Post by venceremos on Jan 11, 2019 11:18:53 GMT 1
If we were just arguing about whether he should be in the team or offered a new contract, you’d have a point. But the top two teams in our league have an interest in him and he’s played half the season for a team with fewer resources than us but which has outperformed us. We’re in this season now, not last season - Ogogo seems worse this season, MacGillivray seems better; things change. He may be better in our minds but he seems also to have been better in the minds of Kenny Jackett, Nathan Jones and Gareth Ainsworth, so ...... I fear Norburn and Laurent are better in the minds of some people than the reality others amongst us have seen. Anyway, it seems to be too late for us with Morris. If Portsmouth are in for him it’s a no-brainer - new, and no doubt much better, contract with a potentially Championship club - and one that could stay up there - or return to see out a contract with a club struggling near the bottom of League 1 (how can that be, with our great midfield!?) that isn’t keen on him. No decision to be made really. Never a problem with our midfield but the problem is the defence. How many points have been lost from winning or drawing positions this year in comparison with last? And that's all down to defence? Aren't all 11 players supposed to be responsible for defending? If our midfield was that good, we'd be in control of games and more readily able to see them out. How many games have we really controlled this season? Not many that I've seen. I do like our midfield but it's nowhere near as good a unit as some seem to believe. We wouldn't be 3 points above a relegation place if it was.
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Post by staffordshrew on Jan 11, 2019 11:19:13 GMT 1
You bring back a player from loan and because of the number of clubs rule you can't play them and then ship them out, it's ridiculous, But you can watch them train and discuss things with them. That done and SR having hjs own plans, it seems to have been decided that moving on for a small transfer fee is the best option, can only trust in our management teams decision making.
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Post by Exkeeper on Jan 11, 2019 11:19:57 GMT 1
So two of the top 3 want him, but Askey said no......Right. To say the balance of the squad is wrong would be an understatement. Not just Askey though, Ricketts could keep him until the end of the season, if he so desired.
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Post by Exkeeper on Jan 11, 2019 11:21:06 GMT 1
Morris to Pompey and playing every week.....no cuance Just like Craig MacGilivaray then 😜 Yeah, but at least we tried to keep him.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2019 11:24:08 GMT 1
We can't compete financially with pompey and we will have a sell on. He's also discovered his football away from us so highly likely hes requested the move regardless.
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Post by blueboy62 on Jan 11, 2019 11:26:42 GMT 1
Bryn Morris has 6 months left on his contract so the club really have no choice but to sell him now. Midfield is not our problem area and Rickets inherited a bloated squad that he is now sorting out but there is still some way to go. Players need to play and we have no reserve league where they can improve and catch the eye of the manager. That's why we discard so many players but 30 into 11 doesn't go and never will. It's a huge waste of talent and resources. The Bosman Rule and the Transfer Window Rules were brought in for good reasons but have created unintended consequences which are bad for clubs and players. Maybe it's time to look again at Loan rules and emergency loans that offer more flexibility
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Post by northwestman on Jan 11, 2019 11:40:41 GMT 1
We can't compete financially with pompey and we will have a sell on. He's also discovered his football away from us so highly likely hes requested the move regardless. And yet in both 2010 and 2012 Portsmouth went into administration. Bolton seem to be the current basket case with regard to financial irresponsibility, but there are other candidates!
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Post by londonshrew75 on Jan 11, 2019 11:41:43 GMT 1
Morris possibly has had enough of us a d who can blame him. Probably out of Ricketts hands to a degree. No point in making him stay if he doesn't want to.....
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Post by thesensationaljt on Jan 11, 2019 11:51:05 GMT 1
Maybe Rick needs the money to buy a 2 goals a season striker.......
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Post by northwestman on Jan 11, 2019 11:56:27 GMT 1
Maybe Rick needs the money to buy a 2 goals a season striker....... But we've already got one of those! Amadi Holloway. 12 goals in 5 seasons.
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