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Post by stuttgartershrew on May 24, 2019 6:35:43 GMT 1
Here's more of Guy Verhofstadt leading up to this weekends elections...
Very honest in his views. However, I do think those views do little more than entrench peoples opinions regarding EU membership rather than change anyone's mind.
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Post by northwestman on May 24, 2019 10:15:38 GMT 1
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Post by staffordshrew on May 24, 2019 10:19:54 GMT 1
May to go, but there will be continuity, a new Tory, man or woman, will continue to f**k it all up.
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Post by mattmw on May 24, 2019 10:26:55 GMT 1
Nothing will bring brexit to a swifter end than Boris Johnson as PM, clever move by May
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Post by staffordshrew on May 24, 2019 10:45:26 GMT 1
Nothing will bring brexit to a swifter end than Boris Johnson as PM, clever move by May Boris jumps in with both feet, big spat with the EU and we jump straight out with no deal?
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Post by stuttgartershrew on May 24, 2019 10:52:54 GMT 1
For those Germans here who know UK politics, Boris Johnson is the one name guaranteed to raise a smile. No idea why...
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Post by mattmw on May 24, 2019 10:55:47 GMT 1
Nothing will bring brexit to a swifter end than Boris Johnson as PM, clever move by May Boris jumps in with both feet, big spat with the EU and we jump straight out with no deal? No Boris will switch to remain. He always has been deep down just using brexit to get the leadership
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Post by northwestman on May 24, 2019 11:10:31 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2019 11:14:49 GMT 1
Boris jumps in with both feet, big spat with the EU and we jump straight out with no deal? No Boris will switch to remain. He always has been deep down just using brexit to get the leadership That's almost exactly what they were saying on TV this morning. He will get his piece of paper out again and rewrite the pros and cons of EU membership and realised he had added them up incorrectly in the first place.
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Post by percy on May 26, 2019 11:51:51 GMT 1
After seeing Raab on the Marr show I’m very worried - someone who says that they don’t care what parliament says, never mind the country, is a real danger to the country. He knows full well that it is not possible to negotiate a new deal before 31 Oct because that gives two weeks to negotiate.
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Post by mattmw on May 26, 2019 14:10:29 GMT 1
Interesting stats on the Conservative Home website on who they are predicting will get most votes from Conservative MP's in the first round of voting
So far Jeremy Hunt is favourite ahead of Johnson, Gove and Raab. Daniel K apparently supporting Jeremy Hunt
Obviously long way to go as the list gets whittled down
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Post by Valerioch on May 26, 2019 14:29:53 GMT 1
Thought Raab spoke well on Marr, and sounds like he’d try to respect democracy, unlike the majority of MP’s and a lot of the electorate.
What also sounded clear from Hammond, is Tory Remoaners would sooner back a no confidence vote, than leave the EU. Expect a general election in October
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2019 14:42:10 GMT 1
After seeing Raab on the Marr show I’m very worried - someone who says that they don’t care what parliament says, never mind the country, is a real danger to the country. He knows full well that it is not possible to negotiate a new deal before 31 Oct because that gives two weeks to negotiate. It's not just that. He admitted he didn't read the GFA and didn't understand the relationship between Dover and Calais. While Brexit Secretary. And he wants us to believe he's a " details guy" His voting record in Parliament speaks for itself. Mostly appalling. www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/24815/dominic_raab/esher_and_walton/votes
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Post by Valerioch on May 26, 2019 14:47:29 GMT 1
After seeing Raab on the Marr show I’m very worried - someone who says that they don’t care what parliament says, never mind the country, is a real danger to the country. He knows full well that it is not possible to negotiate a new deal before 31 Oct because that gives two weeks to negotiate. It's not just that. He admitted he didn't read the GFA and didn't understand the relationship between Dover and Calais. While Brexit Secretary. And he wants us to believe he's a " details guy" His voting record in Parliament speaks for itself. Mostly appalling. www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/24815/dominic_raab/esher_and_walton/votesI personally think that’s a mostly cracking voting record
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Post by Flixton_shrew on May 26, 2019 14:53:17 GMT 1
After seeing Raab on the Marr show I’m very worried - someone who says that they don’t care what parliament says, never mind the country, is a real danger to the country. He knows full well that it is not possible to negotiate a new deal before 31 Oct because that gives two weeks to negotiate. It's not just that. He admitted he didn't read the GFA and didn't understand the relationship between Dover and Calais. While Brexit Secretary. And he wants us to believe he's a " details guy" His voting record in Parliament speaks for itself. Mostly appalling. www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/24815/dominic_raab/esher_and_walton/votesBacked by the opaquely-funded IEA think tank, so he'll be approaching Brexit negotiations from the position of whatever they tell him - www.opendemocracy.net/en/opendemocracyuk/dominic-raab-is-he-iea-s-man-in-government/
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Post by mattmw on May 26, 2019 14:54:24 GMT 1
After seeing Raab on the Marr show I’m very worried - someone who says that they don’t care what parliament says, never mind the country, is a real danger to the country. He knows full well that it is not possible to negotiate a new deal before 31 Oct because that gives two weeks to negotiate. It's not just that. He admitted he didn't read the GFA and didn't understand the relationship between Dover and Calais. While Brexit Secretary. And he wants us to believe he's a " details guy" His voting record in Parliament speaks for itself. Mostly appalling. www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/24815/dominic_raab/esher_and_walton/votesGreat how he constantly voted for the U.K. to get involved in overseas military conflicts, but voted against expanding provision of the Military Covenant to provide past and present military service men and women with better access to services So it’s fine sending these people abroad to fight, but f**k them once they get home
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2019 14:57:24 GMT 1
Great how he constantly voted for the U.K. to get involved in overseas military conflicts, but voted against expanding provision of the Military Covenant to provide past and present military service men and women with better access to services So it’s fine sending these people abroad to fight, but f**k them once they get home Absolutely. But, seeing his general voting record, he appears to be a f**k them sort of guy full stop.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2019 14:58:32 GMT 1
Thanks, I wasn't aware of that.
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Post by shrewsace on May 26, 2019 15:50:52 GMT 1
Bolils my p**s how the IEA is presented as some sort of neutral academic body, rather than the secretive pro-free market propaganda machine it is.
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Post by percy on May 26, 2019 17:25:47 GMT 1
Thought Raab spoke well on Marr, and sounds like he’d try to respect democracy, unlike the majority of MP’s and a lot of the electorate. What also sounded clear from Hammond, is Tory Remoaners would sooner back a no confidence vote, than leave the EU. Expect a general election in October Respect democracy in what sense ? He said that as Prime Minister he could ignore parliament, and when it was pointed out that the referendum result was based upon the premise of leaving the EU with a deal he just dodged the question.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2019 17:36:48 GMT 1
Thought Raab spoke well on Marr, and sounds like he’d try to respect democracy, unlike the majority of MP’s and a lot of the electorate. What also sounded clear from Hammond, is Tory Remoaners would sooner back a no confidence vote, than leave the EU. Expect a general election in October Respect democracy in what sense ? He said that as Prime Minister he could ignore parliament, and when it was pointed out that the referendum result was based upon the premise of leaving the EU with a deal he just dodged the question. Raab really is a bit thick. He wouldn't be in a position to ignore Parliament, he would be Prime Minister, not President. If anything, the experience of May these past months would give the half-wit a clue. I'm sure thereare enough sensible, intelligent and reasonable Tory Party members who won't consider him a serious contender.
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Post by salop27 on May 26, 2019 17:53:28 GMT 1
So Raab is being helped by some sinister right wing organisation, say Open Democracy. An organisation that leans very much to the left. Absolutely pointless posting links to such sites. We can all use the Internet to find anything to support anything.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2019 18:12:05 GMT 1
So Raab is being helped by some sinister right wing organisation, say Open Democracy. An organisation that leans very much to the left. Absolutely pointless posting links to such sites. We can all use the Internet to find anything to support anything. Well, that's your view of course, but Peter Oborne has contributed to them, and I doubt very much he would like to classed as 'left wing.' In fact, I would class Open Democracy as firmly centrist.
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Post by thesensationaljt on May 26, 2019 18:23:26 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2019 19:49:08 GMT 1
That well known democrat who supported the IRA and refused to apologise to the relatives of a victim of the Warrington bombing. Now is likely to represent Brexit for that area. Shows those who voted for the Brexit party will vote for any of their Tom, Dick or Harriet candidates.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2019 19:55:34 GMT 1
Thought Raab spoke well on Marr, and sounds like he’d try to respect democracy, unlike the majority of MP’s and a lot of the electorate. What also sounded clear from Hammond, is Tory Remoaners would sooner back a no confidence vote, than leave the EU. Expect a general election in October Respect democracy in what sense ? He said that as Prime Minister he could ignore parliament, and when it was pointed out that the referendum result was based upon the premise of leaving the EU with a deal he just dodged the question. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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Post by thesensationaljt on May 26, 2019 20:29:40 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2019 20:56:00 GMT 1
Another Leave Party Leader and party? who knows. Claire Fox, allegedly, also defended Gary Glitter's rights to engage in accessing pornography. Where does Teflon Man dig these people up from?
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2019 21:01:44 GMT 1
Claire Fox is full of e. Last year she refused to apologise for suggesting that the Bosnian genocide was faked.
She was a member of the Revolutionary Communist Party, and yet talks about democracy without a hint of irony. She's living proof that the extreme left and extreme right are the same side of the same coin. In more ways than one, seeing as she thinks people should be allowed to watch child porn and Jack Renshaw is a convicted paedophile.
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Post by thesensationaljt on May 26, 2019 21:04:21 GMT 1
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