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Post by Valerioch on Jun 4, 2018 18:10:16 GMT 1
Paul Hurst was a defender - so his team sets up with the DNA of defence. Hence you won’t see many goals - either For or Against. Championship strikers however might put a dent in his pride .... Don’t expect to get many points from the Rotherham fixtures - he has a big soft spot for the Millers. Don’t expect any loyalty if you have a good season - he’s very ambitious you know ... The manner of his departure was very unprofessional which left a sour taste in many supporters. Expect the same. I wish you well. Hang on, we beat Rotherham last year!! And yes, you sound very sour and bitter. Most of us are more grown up
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Post by salop27 on Jun 4, 2018 18:30:49 GMT 1
I'd say we were the fittest team in the league till Christmas then levels dropped and carried on falling a bit resulting in a lot of players being knackered after 70 minutes at Wembley. This was also a criticism from Grimsby fans saying that Hursts style of play lead to the team being spent by the play offs. Hurst only seems to have a select group of players he trusts and they get flogged. As such that seems to lead to him being reluctant to make subs until its to late as well. Not all bad though. He can bring out the best in players and creates a very strong bond/work ethic. We also played some attractive football last season and scored some excellent goals. We could have scored more but often lacked quality in the last third, something that a championship team should be able to provide more off. I hope Ipswich have a good season, only trouble then will be your manager getting linked to any old club deemed bigger than you. Not enjoyable.
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Post by jimmelrosesjaw on Jun 4, 2018 18:52:01 GMT 1
He is good at weeding the bad eggs out, but that might cost the club a few quid in pay offs.
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Jun 4, 2018 18:52:35 GMT 1
A lot of these above posts would be greatly different if he was still with us.
As he’s never managed at Championship level before, who knows. But then he was an unknown quantity at league one level but did alright there with us.
Agree with those who say it’ll be a team of workers who’re capable of the odd moment of flair. I can’t see him setting teams out to dominate games but that doesn’t mean it’ll be defensive football.
If it’s anything like us he will give you a bunch of players you can really get behind though.
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Post by shrewforever on Jun 4, 2018 18:59:54 GMT 1
Hope you like one up front, at home, as well as away...........I lived in Cambridge for many years and watched Ipswich on many occasions in years gone by early to late 90s and imo your fans are hard to separate from those that follow Wolves (arghhh rinse my mouth out with soap and water).
Often use to hear murmurings at Ipswich of " we are too good to be playing Barnsley or Bolton or Preston for example....I always thought a lot of your fans to be just like those at Wolves (said it again, Jesus sick all over my keyboard,damn) and you used to think you were a big Club ie because of Bobby Robson success era.
Dont upset PH or he'll turn it back on you,one and only mistake he made here, otherwise very intellegent,well spoken,hard working,highly ambitious and successful to date....you could do a hell of a lot worse...... and he'll give his all and with backing and luck required he'll do a better job than McCarthy but if you want Paul Mariner,Alan Brazil with Muhren and Tyson(spelling doesn't look right,but you know who I mean, playing just behind or off the shoulder the front two forget it................... it aint going to happen.
Lots of debate and discussion about why we didnt make top two this season and most of it valid but HUGE reason imo we didn't score goals..............am not going to critise our strikers for that we rarely set up as a team that could score a lot of goals even with Ronaldo or Messi in the squad very unlikely they would have both started many games together as usually each of them selected to play the target man problem being too big a gap between them as lone forwards and midfield.
Probably get a bit of stick for this post, fair enough, just my opinion..good luck for next season
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Post by philjh on Jun 4, 2018 19:07:08 GMT 1
A good talented manager who i would have liked to have seen stay with us for a another season , but i suppose he thinks he deserves a crack at a higher division and good luck to him , the only downside i thought was not bringing in a tried and tested striker because i believe that another 10 goals or so would have got us promoted , he seem to prefer wingers , whilst we finished third we definetely did not score enough goals so whether he will remain defensive minded or go on the attack we shall see , i hope he is successful with you guys, and make us here at Salop jealous of what could have happened
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Post by stfc1969 on Jun 4, 2018 19:43:05 GMT 1
Paul Hurst was a defender - so his team sets up with the DNA of defence. Hence you won’t see many goals - either For or Against. Championship strikers however might put a dent in his pride .... Don’t expect to get many points from the Rotherham fixtures - he has a big soft spot for the Millers. Don’t expect any loyalty if you have a good season - he’s very ambitious you know ... The manner of his departure was very unprofessional which left a sour taste in many supporters. Expect the same. I wish you well. Hang on, we beat Rotherham last year!! And yes, you sound very sour and bitter. Most of us are more grown up Speak for yourself!! I think it’s spot on, in that the manner of his departure has left a sour taste.
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Jun 4, 2018 20:34:33 GMT 1
Hang on, we beat Rotherham last year!! And yes, you sound very sour and bitter. Most of us are more grown up Speak for yourself!! I think it’s spot on, in that the manner of his departure has left a sour taste. Same with me
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Post by staffordshrew on Jun 4, 2018 20:42:19 GMT 1
Between Hurst and Doig, and regardless of whether it is championship or league 1, they expect hard work, right attitude and togetherness from players. Many wins for us was from working hard and earning the right to win. Being a fit side, we grinded teams down and out run sides too. Gained many wins and draws with late goals. He’ll use the budget well and will identify players that won’t be on most club’s radar – just like he did with us. That's what's so galling about Wembley, our usual is exactly what we didn't do. Been past the Hawthorns today, Stoke the other day. Just one more game played in that do or die way and we could have been playing there next season..
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Post by ipswichshrews on Jun 4, 2018 21:16:31 GMT 1
Between Hurst and Doig, and regardless of whether it is championship or league 1, they expect hard work, right attitude and togetherness from players. Many wins for us was from working hard and earning the right to win. Being a fit side, we grinded teams down and out run sides too. Gained many wins and draws with late goals. He’ll use the budget well and will identify players that won’t be on most club’s radar – just like he did with us. That's what's so galling about Wembley, our usual is exactly what we didn't do. Been past the Hawthorns today, Stoke the other day. Just one more game played in that do or die way and we could have been playing there next season.. Know what you mean! First day back into work and walked passed Portman Road; and will be making the same walk time and time again!
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Post by Namur on Jun 4, 2018 22:18:58 GMT 1
Speak for yourself!! I think it’s spot on, in that the manner of his departure has left a sour taste. Same with me Same here, was fully expecting him to leave (and wouldn't begrudge him going either).. but the bang average performance at Wembley coupled with the way he seemed to be sneaking off down the A14 almost as soon as the coach arrived home leaves a sour taste. No happy - clappy 'thanks for the memories' from me. I do think it's a great appointment from Ipswich, and certainly a nice break from the usual roster of out-of-work managers. Says it all on that front that some of the names being banded about when Hurst left were the same as when Turner left a few years ago. Everyone else has covered what Hurst is like. Expect any passengers in the squad to be shown the door, and a real ethos of teamwork and togetherness. I can see him doing well.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Jun 4, 2018 22:20:12 GMT 1
what he did with Shrewsbury was take the squad abroad and got them very fit, he brought in players from lower leagues and some players who had played for him at other clubs,got rid of the dead wood and managed to transform a number of players who had under performed at Shrewsbury. he has a big emphasis on team work, team spirit hard work. if he replicates the style of football he introduced here , then it will be high tempo , one touch football , press all over the park with a well organised defence that dont concede many goals.he managed to get a team that leaked goals like a sieve to at one stage the third best defensive record in all divisions,so he built from a defensive platform.he has proven that on a small budget he can do very well. he also expects the crowd to be vocal and get behind the team weakness rather predictable substitutions you could almost set the clock by him ,some games he did not seem to have a plan B
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Post by Exkeeper on Jun 4, 2018 22:38:35 GMT 1
If you have big earners who he doesn't think are value for money, he will want them out, which could cost a fortune if they are on anything other than short term contracts.
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Post by trojanskin on Jun 4, 2018 22:42:11 GMT 1
IMO I think he will find it a lot harder in the Championship, but he's earnt a crack at it & the best of luck.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2018 23:33:28 GMT 1
Hurst came to us when we looked doomed . He turned us around and saved us from certain relegation , an unbelievable achievement to my mind. Next season we were nailed on relegation candidates according to the bookies . Again he worked wonders and perhaps we over achieved finishing third behind Wigan and Blackburn . Unfortunately we couldn't win the biggest game in our recent history and,of course we are gutted , So near yet so far away. He brought in some quality ,Godfey and Nolan being the best. He also acquired a fine keeper in Henderson and wasn't afraid to bring in lower league but hungry players who did us proud . As you will have read we won a lot of games 1-0 which tells you all . A well drilled defence and a hard working mid field . Overall we were extemely fit . To my mind what he failed to do was to address the problem of finding an out and out striker , someone who could put the ball inthe net on a regular basis which I suppose most clubs strive to do . Carlton Morris was superb for us I thought ,worked his socks of in holding the ball up and bringing other players into the game . Trouble is he couldn't be in two places at once . To be fair we played some great stuff at times thanks to Hurst and , despite his parting he did brilliantly for us without a doubt . He won't suffer fools gladly and will expect his players to work hard as a unit and give their all . We had a great team spirit which probably accounts for our great season - and it was a great season.
I wish you and your fellow supporters all the best for the new season with your new Manager .
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2018 0:05:08 GMT 1
Utilises the loan market well for good young players, but will your rivals Norwich be keen to loan players to Ipswich? He had as many as three here last season.
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Post by quinnster on Jun 5, 2018 12:07:08 GMT 1
Hi, I am no "Statto", but certain figures from season give good indicators of the pattern we had during the season.
Although we finished 3rd after 46 games, we scored 60 goals, compared to Promoted Wigan/Blackburn of 89/82....quite a gap...and further down the league, little Fleetwood scored 59 fighting relegation for the 1st half the season. Defence we were 2nd, conceding just 39, less than a goal a game.
The figures matched our tactics, strong defence, superb goalkeeping, and going forward was mostly wing play. The penalty area on attack could get frustrating, often crosses came in from the wingplay, & no one there to meet it, and the attacking group would seem to try pass the ball into the net, similar to the old Arsenal style plus the 1 nil tag they have.
Hurst was a defender, so I guess these habits will continue, included with his Assistant.
That all said, it was a system that worked for us, we were "Top" for many weeks, beating bigger teams on bigger budgets. All chairmen would love this, and this is why no doubt Hurst was being scouted from early on in the season. The club insiders knew this. Hence it took just a week to replace him.
This pattern I assume will continue, he is an ambitious guy, and my guess he will leave at early signs of success as he did with his previous clubs and end up amongst some of the Yorkshire giants ...perhaps Blades, Owls, or Leeds Leeds Leeds.......
Cheers.
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Post by itfc1962 on Jun 5, 2018 14:41:59 GMT 1
Thank you for your replies I took on board what the supporters had to say. People may have a valid point when saying as Hurst was a defensive figure during his playing career he may be keen to focus this trait at manager level. We had a bucket load of this when McCarthy was in place, he would often set up not to lose and keep things restricted. It may have got us the point we needed but this was employed against all manner of opposition and was painful to watch.
So long as he possesses more ambition than what we had before then accept we're all for that. Nobody here is expecting great things, it may take all of his three year contract before we are ready to return to the premier league but understand we're the longest serving of all championship clubs and haven't had much to shout about for more years than many of us can care to remember.
Not sure how bringing in Norwich players will sit well with some of our fans, there is a tangible animosity from most towards them and the feeling is most likely reciprocated but if it works for the team or proves to be in our best interests then guess we'll go for it. I'll continue to look in on your forum as the season progresses from August to let you know from a best perspective as to how he's fitting in but need that time between now and then to take ample break from the domestic game.
Feel free to join up with our two leading fans forums Tractor Boys.com and TWTD to have an opinion, I'm sure our fans would like to hear additional thoughts on the issue. I understand there may be some continued hard feeling between teams over the manner Hurst was taken away or approached and I apologize again for that, but the invitation remains.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2018 15:05:22 GMT 1
I genuinely wish PH every success. My prediction is you may be pleasantly surprised by what he achieves next season. I would have thought the majority of the Shrewsbury squad will be League One standard and therefore there may not be too many exchanges in terms of players.
However, any chance of letting us have Dean Gerken if Henderson arrives from Man Utd?
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Post by pughywasfree on Jun 5, 2018 17:12:30 GMT 1
Personally I think you have some cheek coming on here asking question after your club acting they way they did.
Want to know what he is like? Wait and find out.
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Jun 5, 2018 17:57:33 GMT 1
Personally I think you have some cheek coming on here asking question after your club acting they way they did. Want to know what he is like? Wait and find out. That’s a bit harsh tbh, it wasn’t him that acted in that way just the club he supports.
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Post by Bob Rickerton on Jun 5, 2018 18:18:54 GMT 1
Personally I think you have some cheek coming on here asking question after your club acting they way they did. Want to know what he is like? Wait and find out. He's been polite and respectful, and there's been some good critical analysis over two pages with mostly insightful postings that have followed after the initial post. A good example of what reasonable opposition fans can, and have been bringing to this board for over a decade.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Jun 5, 2018 19:29:57 GMT 1
Thank you for your replies I took on board what the supporters had to say. People may have a valid point when saying as Hurst was a defensive figure during his playing career he may be keen to focus this trait at manager level. We had a bucket load of this when McCarthy was in place, he would often set up not to lose and keep things restricted. It may have got us the point we needed but this was employed against all manner of opposition and was painful to watch. So long as he possesses more ambition than what we had before then accept we're all for that. Nobody here is expecting great things, it may take all of his three year contract before we are ready to return to the premier league but understand we're the longest serving of all championship clubs and haven't had much to shout about for more years than many of us can care to remember. Not sure how bringing in Norwich players will sit well with some of our fans, there is a tangible animosity from most towards them and the feeling is most likely reciprocated but if it works for the team or proves to be in our best interests then guess we'll go for it. I'll continue to look in on your forum as the season progresses from August to let you know from a best perspective as to how he's fitting in but need that time between now and then to take ample break from the domestic game. Feel free to join up with our two leading fans forums Tractor Boys.com and TWTD to have an opinion, I'm sure our fans would like to hear additional thoughts on the issue. I understand there may be some continued hard feeling between teams over the manner Hurst was taken away or approached and I apologize again for that, but the invitation remains. thank you i truly hope you have a good season , i dont know how long you have supported Ipswich but i have waited 31 years for a season like Hurst gave us , i used to live in a very small village called llangunog Les Tibbot was from there and played for Ipswich from 73 to 79( sadly his career was cut short i think he broke his leg twice ) ironically his brother tony was the better player
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2018 20:27:19 GMT 1
I have no problem with Ipswich fans coming on the board, they are a delight compared to those 'Addicks'
All I would say is Grimsby fans warned Town fans and Town fans may have to warn the Tractor Boys, Hurst is ambitious and may move on sooner than everyone thinks and wants.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2018 21:13:06 GMT 1
Paul Hurst could have been a legend at Shrewsbury Town.
Instead, he will be remembered merely as an excellent manager.
He brought us sunshine, but left under a cloud.
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Post by callum on Jun 5, 2018 21:44:10 GMT 1
If we play Ipswich it would be interesting what kind of reception Hurst would get, I would imagine roundly boo'ed, which is certainly what he'd get from me.
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Post by northwestman on Jun 5, 2018 21:53:08 GMT 1
If we play Ipswich it would be interesting what kind of reception Hurst would get, I would imagine roundly boo'ed, which is certainly what he'd get from me. Something tells me that Shrewsbury v Ipswich will eventually happen in the Carabao Cup. We kept drawing them in the F.A. Cup in the 1980s!
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Post by callum on Jun 5, 2018 21:58:04 GMT 1
If we play Ipswich it would be interesting what kind of reception Hurst would get, I would imagine roundly boo'ed, which is certainly what he'd get from me. Something tells me that Shrewsbury v Ipswich will eventually happen in the Carabao Cup. We kept drawing them in the F.A. Cup in the 1980s! I was at all those cup games, remember watching the replay at Portman Rd on Sportsnight following the 0-0.
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Post by Stowmarket Shrew on Jun 5, 2018 22:39:17 GMT 1
Something tells me that Shrewsbury v Ipswich will eventually happen in the Carabao Cup. We kept drawing them in the F.A. Cup in the 1980s! I was at all those cup games, remember watching the replay at Portman Rd on Sportsnight following the 0-0. The 3-3 league cup game in 2009 was one of the best town games I've ever seen. End to end, some jaw dropping goals, and plenty of excitement.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2018 22:51:17 GMT 1
If we play Ipswich it would be interesting what kind of reception Hurst would get, I would imagine roundly boo'ed, which is certainly what he'd get from me. Not from me . He will ,and should , be roundly applauded. Without him in charge we were heading for relegation ,no two ways about it. He saved us and went on to give us a season to remember . Of course I am gutted we didn't get promoted or win our two Wembley finals but overall he turned us around . I'm disappointed he left in the manner in which he did , it wasn't good but to boo him when/ if he returns with Ipswich Town would be an absolute disgrace . We should never forget what he did for us . We move on , I wish him well but look forward to watching Shrewsbury Town F C under new Management . To boo him on his return ? No , We are better than that surely .
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