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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Mar 21, 2018 1:11:44 GMT 1
I'm not one who regularly claims to be ITK, but I do have a friend of a friend type source to the dressing room this season - by all accounts O'Toole was racially abusing Ogogo. Disgusting if true. Disgusting maybe, but it's not going to help us over the next few games. Need clear heads to get us to where we need to be come early May.
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Post by scooter on Mar 21, 2018 1:21:07 GMT 1
As mentioned 4 points from 2 away games is great, no one will win all their remaining games, that I am certain about! So on to the game, thought linesman infront of their main stand didn’t give us one single thing all night and the ref was poor, very Home biased... So my ratings for tonight: Deano - 6, one decent save first half and annoyed with the goal he conceded Hendrie - 4, very poor, kept losing battle to a poor winger, gave ball away and was rightly subbed, needs to improve big time Sadler- 7 , won headers, kept shape and general solid performance Tsiala- 7 , again won important headers and made some good tackles, decent performance Beckles- 6 did a few good things but also gave ball away too many times in first half and was just kicking ball out of play, unlucky with header at the end that clipped the crossbar Whalley- 6 didn’t really do much first half, more involved second half, final ball wasn’t the greatest Abs- 5 thought had a poor game didn’t really get going or make an impression seemed like the game was just passing him by... sent off for being attacked by a pony tailed p@@&k and to be honest to him not would retaliate the same way in the heat of the moment - shame as that John joe fool is a poor player.... Nolan- 7 tried to run things and more influence in the second half and was spraying it about nicely, nice finish for the goal, went looking for a penalty... Morris - 6 better Than Abs, did some basics well but didn’t impose himself enough Rodman- 5 quiet game thought he would be subbed , couple of better runs in the second half, but needed more from him tonight, was expecting Thomas on.... Morris- 6.5 tried all game, something’s worked and something’s didn’t, needed more support Subs: Payne - 5 didn’t really do much when he came on, clearly had the hump at being sub as was warming up wih his hands in his pockets for most of it Payne simply doesn't offer enough when he comes on. Has been poor for a while now. On the other hand he came on at 1-0 down in both the last two games and we got 4 points. Going to be interesting to see how we line up on Saturday
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Post by shrewswolf on Mar 21, 2018 1:49:56 GMT 1
More comeback points and another game unbeaten added to this good run of form, however, with my Salop negativity hat on, it does feel like only wins will do. I just can’t see the others dropping any points, though surely they will.
Tonight’s game was odd. Town were extremely poor in the opening 20 minutes but only conceded when comfortably on top. Northampton througout were much better than their lowly position but still feel Salop could and should have come out winners. Beckles chance was golden.
Ultimately I think Ogogo’s red card could cost us the top two, rather than this result. I’ve never seen an incident like that before, but he should have known better regardless of his reasons for reacting.
All we can do now is respond again and keep the pressure on.
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Post by thesensationaljt on Mar 21, 2018 2:02:02 GMT 1
I would appeal Abu's red card, on the grounds he threw the 16 punches in self defence.
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Post by bobbytheblock19er on Mar 21, 2018 2:04:28 GMT 1
Got to look at the positives from that . We have basically secured a play off place now . We have Sam jones waiting to come in , he has been signed for cash so looking forward to seeing him . Bryn morris played well again. And let’s be honest , bar that mistake from hendrie which led to the goal , we didn’t look like conceding and hardly gave them a clear cut chance all night . I’m not going to slag ogogo off , the only player I saw throw a punch was o toole , then he just wouldn’t let go of Abu . I thought the referee had a good game and just let everything go, the one I thought he got wrong was whalley penalty , looked a stone Waller . If you feel disappointed with a point , so what? 5 away wins followed by a draw , we are 2nd in the league a point off the top . We can go top Saturday with a win which puts the pressure back on everyone else . Northampton celebrating like they’ve just secured promotion after a point at Home to Shrewsbury town ? - it’s a sign of how far we’ve come . Looking forward to seeing the line up on Saturday , hurst has some decisions to make . I don’t think we will see hendrie at RB again . Great support tonight from the town fans !
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Post by camdenshrew on Mar 21, 2018 4:48:17 GMT 1
I think tonight would of been perfect for Thomas to come on for Rodman... being more direct would of been better option as mentioned before The whole cobblers back line was s**tting themselves throughout the game and just wanted to boot it away ASAP in most cases out off the pitch.... Agree with this. I thought it was crying out for some direct running and trickery from Thomas - or even a bit of the unexpected from Arthur - as their defence tired.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Mar 21, 2018 7:24:52 GMT 1
I think tonight would of been perfect for Thomas to come on for Rodman... Agree with this. Don't think he has his usual high stand game last night, Rodman. I think it were him anyhow, there was a time in the second half when he was out wide on the right and was being covered by two defenders, he wanted to go out wide but they were covering that so he looked to chip the ball between the two but over hit it a fair distance and had to run to retrieve it...which he couldn't. Summed his evening up. Was at that time I was thinking the same about Thomas. Do think that change should have been made.
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Post by Stowmarket Shrew on Mar 21, 2018 8:09:17 GMT 1
Payne simply doesn't offer enough when he comes on. Has been poor for a while now. On the other hand he came on at 1-0 down in both the last two games and we got 4 points. Going to be interesting to see how we line up on Saturday Indeed, and credit where it's due his penalty on Saturday was superb but his general play has been lacking of late. A real headache for Saturday. Ordinarily I'd have played Hendrie in the middle for Abu but he was awful last night and deserves to be dropped. We need that steel in midfield though so the pace and offensive play of Thomas not ideal. Wonder if he could bring Lowe in at left back and play Beckles in front of the back two? Otherwise a more attack minded 442 might work with Thomas off Morris.
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Post by MartinB on Mar 21, 2018 8:28:54 GMT 1
Slow start again. Still can't work out how we didn't get one penalty let along two. Both times players have beaten their opponent and have a clear run towards goal. Only reasons for going down is because they have been tripped or dived. If it is the latter then booking but neither time did that happen
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Post by bobbytheblock19er on Mar 21, 2018 8:29:19 GMT 1
On the other hand he came on at 1-0 down in both the last two games and we got 4 points. Going to be interesting to see how we line up on Saturday Indeed, and credit where it's due his penalty on Saturday was superb but his general play has been lacking of late. A real headache for Saturday. Ordinarily I'd have played Hendrie in the middle for Abu but he was awful last night and deserves to be dropped. We need that steel in midfield though so the pace and offensive play of Thomas not ideal. Wonder if he could bring Lowe in at left back and play Beckles in front of the back two? Otherwise a more attack minded 442 might work with Thomas off Morris. i thought it was a great move from hurst last night to go 3-5-2 when we had 11. He could see Northampton weren’t hurting us down the wings, and after that move we dominated even with 10 v 10 . Wonder if he will do that for Saturday ? Macgillivaray Toto Sadler beckles Whalley morris Nolan Jones rodman Payne morris ?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2018 8:40:23 GMT 1
2 points dropped, however you dress it up.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Mar 21, 2018 8:56:31 GMT 1
Slow start again. Still can't work out how we didn't get one penalty let along two. Both times players have beaten their opponent and have a clear run towards goal. Only reasons for going down is because they have been tripped or dived. If it is the latter then booking but neither time did that happen Granted I was only watching on the box but from what I saw I wouldn't have given either. I think our lads played for them on both occasions. They picked the ball up, moved across the opposition player, stuck their arse out, waited for the first contact and went down like a sack of spuds. Now don't get me wrong; of course you can pick the ball up, shield it and get fouled but it just looked so manufactured, on both occasions it looked as though all they were doing is looking to find a foul. And contact doesn't mean a foul. I would rather they made an effort to continue and get a cross in (more so the second appeal). Maybe those who were there had a better view, mind.
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Post by harmerhillshrew on Mar 21, 2018 8:57:51 GMT 1
Not quite sure what instigated the dust up between O’Toole and Abs but before they hit the deck O’Toole caught Abs around the temple with one of the cleanest right hooks I’ve seen on a football field in quite some time. If that is the case Abu should have gone down and stayed down. Hoped one of the 4 officials spotted it and O'Toole would have walked. Poor from the captain, regardless of the provocation. Shame we have not got a Colin Griffin type deadly assassin in the team to sort these sort of incidents out if officials miss them😉
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2018 9:15:07 GMT 1
Is Joe Riley anywhere near coming back?
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Post by SouthStandShrew on Mar 21, 2018 9:38:37 GMT 1
Is Joe Riley anywhere near coming back? Imagine the personal grief he has suffered will take a while. Much in the Youth team that could step up if needed?
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Post by Eric Rex on Mar 21, 2018 9:54:56 GMT 1
Whalley was diving on both occasions so a penalty would have been unfair. He dominated Northants last year (I think it was still Bunney then?) and he had the run of him again today, no need to go down.
I was surprised we didn't see Thomas for Rodman too. Best moment of the game was when Van Veen did an air kick and fell over the by-line.
Praise for Toto walking Ogogo to the tunnel, I'd be confident that those two would have been fighting again on their way off had he not chaperoned.
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Post by Salopfan99 on Mar 21, 2018 10:14:11 GMT 1
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Post by stroma2924 on Mar 21, 2018 10:17:29 GMT 1
Sounded like a tough game last night for you lot. The loss of players must be a concern. Still lots of football to be played. I think you needed to be 4 points clear of us by the time we play Bradford, to take full advantage. We wont drop many points now, we haven't for months and months. Must win game on Sat for both you an Wigan. Who also need to win tonight.
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Post by Wychers on Mar 21, 2018 10:19:44 GMT 1
As much as I’d have liked a penalty I agree that both falls looked a touch manufactured and would have been annoyed if given against us, but we’ve all seen softer refs cave in. The cross in those positions would have been very dangerous.
Regarding the sending offs I saw the initial scuffle and then the punch thrown by Toole (a decent right hander) and then the escalation but didn’t see Abs hit him. There were some very close cuddles and in the melee wasn’t easy to distinguish who did what.
Enjoyed the atmosphere and the sustained chanting, including Bizzy’s dancing in front of the stand, some special moves there! The stewards let us stand and we’re mostly tolerant of all that was going on. Good turnout on a Tuesday night and we’ve never had the rub of the green on our last few visits to the Sixfields. They were there to be finished off....
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Post by thesensationaljt on Mar 21, 2018 10:21:33 GMT 1
We wont drop many points now
I enjoy a bit of arrogance. That's when you can fall flat on your arse.
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Post by stroma2924 on Mar 21, 2018 10:41:18 GMT 1
I only say that based on months and months of form. Go off the last 6 games if you want? Up to you ......Not arrogance. Just confidence in the manager and players, big difference. You need to stop concerning yourselves with what we should or shouldn't be doing and worry about yourselves. That's all we are doing. I think we are actually better chasing sides down, than holding top spot. It was only a short while since you had a 16 point lead on us. Still loads of games to go yet, anything could happen. Keep the faith
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Post by ssshrew on Mar 21, 2018 10:47:46 GMT 1
I only say that based on months and months of form. Go off the last 6 games if you want? Up to you ......Not arrogance. Just confidence in the manager and players, big difference. You need to stop concerning yourselves with what we should or shouldn't be doing and worry about yourselves. That's all we are doing. I think we are actually better chasing sides down, than holding top spot. It was only a short while since you had a 16 point lead on us. Still loads of games to go yet, anything could happen. Keep the faith I think the problem is that we have had too many of your posters on here recently spouting off. Your byline is interesting and it would be good to have a Blackburn fan on here talking sense without discussions disintegrating on both sides. You are quite correct in that we can't be worrying about what others do we must concentrate on ourselves.
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Post by El Huracán!!!! on Mar 21, 2018 10:47:50 GMT 1
But months and months of form has led to only a single point gap at the top. Can say what you want about how good blackburn are, but the clear fact is the gap between us is very little, and the pressure is on all teams not to slip up.
Cruising through your opening period or mid season is one thing (as we both did Salop with the unbeaten start, and your barnstorming run mid season to now) but trying to do it in the pressure cooker of a 9 game all or nothing promotion run in is a different thing.
No chance any of the top three win all the games, no chance anyone wins all but one IMO. Points will be dropped and draws rather than losses will play a massive part.
I don't blame you for being confident, but as a Salop fan being 1 point behind with 9 to go feels pretty good to us. It's In your hands now, that also comes with extra pressure.
I'M not arrogant about our chances, but still quietly confident that the little club that's been pushing the big boys all season can still come up with a grand finish.
If by the end of Saturday we are sitting top again with 8 games to play it will feel pretty good.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Mar 21, 2018 10:48:20 GMT 1
i thought Godfrey's injury was not serious so let us hope he is fit for saturday I understood a fortnight so possibly back for Oxford, maybe even Rochdale? right worse than i thought
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Mar 21, 2018 10:53:22 GMT 1
I only say that based on months and months of form. Go off the last 6 games if you want? Up to you ......Not arrogance. Just confidence in the manager and players, big difference. You need to stop concerning yourselves with what we should or shouldn't be doing and worry about yourselves.
That's all we are doing. I think we are actually better chasing sides down, than holding top spot. It was only a short while since you had a 16 point lead on us. Still loads of games to go yet, anything could happen. Keep the faith And what is it you are doing by posting on a rivals board? Erm.................
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Post by zenfootball2 on Mar 21, 2018 10:53:31 GMT 1
our away form is very good over the last six away games five wins and i draw
if we compare the top three teams over the last five games
out of a maximum fifteen points Blacburn have fourteen town eleven Wigan eight
i know past performances is no indicator of future performances but last season we would have bit your hand off for results like that
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Post by stroma2924 on Mar 21, 2018 11:04:48 GMT 1
But months and months of form has led to only a single point gap at the top. Can say what you want about how good blackburn are, but the clear fact is the gap between us is very little, and the pressure is on all teams not to slip up. Cruising through your opening period or mid season is one thing (as we both did Salop with the unbeaten start, and your barnstorming run mid season to now) but trying to do it in the pressure cooker of a 9 game all or nothing promotion run in is a different thing. No chance any of the top three win all the games, no chance anyone wins all but one IMO. Points will be dropped and draws rather than losses will play a massive part. I don't blame you for being confident, but as a Salop fan being 1 point behind with 9 to go feels pretty good to us. It's In your hands now, that also comes with extra pressure. I'M not arrogant about our chances, but still quietly confident that the little club that's been pushing the big boys all season can still come up with a grand finish. If by the end of Saturday we are sitting top again with 8 games to play it will feel pretty good.
You guys should not be anything other than unbelievably proud. And I would be mental to try say you will miss out. Who knows!!?? I think I know, but I don't. I have a strong 'feeling' and that's it. If you missed out, and had to go in the play offs, I'd back you all the way. I don't think you would be as affected. Honestly, if we missed out, I would be very worried we would struggle to pick ourselves up again. That's based on nothing but a 'hunch' We will drop points at some point, absolutely no doubt. All 3 of us will. Its when and to what effect. You have staying power, and will push us all the way. If you snuck in now, after all this, while I'd be gutted, for football it would be fantastic. Putting my alligence to one side, personally I would always route for the little, unfancied side. Your story this season is an amazing one. I just think by now, nobody is taking you lightly. Some may have this season already. But not anymore. Least of all us. You wont go away. That wont change between now and May. Its a battle now, good luck.
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Post by stroma2924 on Mar 21, 2018 11:08:32 GMT 1
I only say that based on months and months of form. Go off the last 6 games if you want? Up to you ......Not arrogance. Just confidence in the manager and players, big difference. You need to stop concerning yourselves with what we should or shouldn't be doing and worry about yourselves.
That's all we are doing. I think we are actually better chasing sides down, than holding top spot. It was only a short while since you had a 16 point lead on us. Still loads of games to go yet, anything could happen. Keep the faith And what is it you are doing by posting on a rivals board? Erm................. chill. You think I'm on the wind up. If thats as the case I'd go into that silly thread your fans on here started (not you personally) suggesting Mr Mowbray cheer up! because your coming for us etc ......its only light hearted. And should be taken with a pinch of salt. You guys are kicking every ball as are fans of other clubs, who like you, support their team. Give me a bit, expect it back. Be decent, I'll be decent back.
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Post by stroma2924 on Mar 21, 2018 11:11:45 GMT 1
I'll also point out we only drew away 1-1 and missed a pen in the last min! And we only drew at home with them. Its more the timing, and reading what you guys are saying, you'll take a point. Its the loss of a key player that may hurt? Who knows, you may have someone who can step up?
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Post by stroma2924 on Mar 21, 2018 11:18:32 GMT 1
But months and months of form has led to only a single point gap at the top. Can say what you want about how good blackburn are, but the clear fact is the gap between us is very little, and the pressure is on all teams not to slip up. Cruising through your opening period or mid season is one thing (as we both did Salop with the unbeaten start, and your barnstorming run mid season to now) but trying to do it in the pressure cooker of a 9 game all or nothing promotion run in is a different thing. No chance any of the top three win all the games, no chance anyone wins all but one IMO. Points will be dropped and draws rather than losses will play a massive part. I don't blame you for being confident, but as a Salop fan being 1 point behind with 9 to go feels pretty good to us. It's In your hands now, that also comes with extra pressure. I'M not arrogant about our chances, but still quietly confident that the little club that's been pushing the big boys all season can still come up with a grand finish. If by the end of Saturday we are sitting top again with 8 games to play it will feel pretty good. If by the end of Saturday we are sitting top again with 8 games to play it will feel pretty good
I get that, I really do. But you can see my thinking too maybe? You will have played 3 football matches without us kicking a ball. If ....and its a big if now ....you did get 3 points, you would need to be more than one win ahead of us. That's a lot of football played to be only a point or two clear. You mention pressure? Had that been 4 points, then trust me, it would've ramped up the pressure. While we we will still have it, it wont be like it would have been with a gap of 4 points. Before we play Bradford we should be 3rd with a gap. If you both do what you should be doing. If you want to get up automatic.
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