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Post by ssshrew on May 2, 2016 18:11:09 GMT 1
I don't need a scapegoat. When we were promoted I said I would be happy to finish in the last non relegation place this season. Well we have managed to avoid the drop by a very small margin. When I think about it logically, my wish to finish at least just above the line would always mean that we struggled, some matches would be rubbish and mistakes would be made. So I would have to say that however irritating and annoying this may be in the end I got what I wished for!!!!!! Perhaps I should be the scapegoat.
I am sure that no one at the club goes in to work to fail, sometimes they have to learn from experience. Next season is the test for me - to see if lessons have been learned.
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Post by champagneprince on May 2, 2016 19:07:40 GMT 1
To be honest I doubt that many of us would be able to tell a good training session from a bad one, or indeed whether MJ is a good assistant manager or not. What we do know is this:
1. We just managed to stay in this league 2. Home form has been dire 3. Set pieces have been woeful, and hearing 'what the hell do they do in training' has become the norm. 4. Other than Kaikai all other players seem reluctant to have a shot on goal.
Football is a results business and because of this nobody in the game is indispensable and nobody is untouchable. Much of the plusses in his favour appear to be his genuine passion for the club and passion is of course an admirable quality. But it's not the only quality, and quite simply the way we play needs to improve. We need to shoot more, we need to do better on set pieces and that's in Jackson's domain surely?
More of the same is not an option. We as fans don't deserve another home season like this one and something has to change. If it doesn't, I can see more boring, sideways football and an increasing loss of fanbase. MM and MJ are responsible for making it more exciting to watch, regardless of the money given to them by RW.
If one goes, then both go. Do well and both get the recognition. That's how it works for me.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2016 20:07:47 GMT 1
I suppose some it stems from the fact he's Roland's man, rather than Mellon's choice. Therefore when things aren't going well then he will be seen as an extension of Roland and get the same grief thrown at him. He also has a reputation of someone who regularly falls out with his players, however the only example fans can give is Hector
In his defence people complain about him saying he's coaching a team who struggle and concede a lot of goals so must take the blame, forgetting that 12 months ago he was coaching a team who were doing very well and conceding very few.
I have no idea what he is like us a coach/assistant manager, I do know that based on around a third of the season he was in charge I wouldn't want him managing the club again. But my biggest gripe is if it is true that any new manager has to work with him then I don't believe it's healthy but that's more of a criticism of Roland
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Post by thatcherschild on May 2, 2016 21:05:11 GMT 1
few times I've been at the ground this season and seen the lads train and every time it's been Jacko taking training, sessions seem well run and everyone is involved. I'm not sure what the situation is with MM taking training but he obviously trusts Jacko to delegate his important task to him. If anyone went to the q&a when he was manager they will know how passionate he is. At the end of the day it's up to the manager to pick his staff and if MM or whoever is manager decides Jacko is the right man for assistant that's good enough for me i've also watched a few training sessions and i'll have to disagree with your view of training. i'd go with...the players often looked bamboozled and bored when he was coaching. MM only seemed to coach throughout the game at the end of the session. i seem to think that MM and MJ seem very distant...just my observation,maybe not true.
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Post by franthetownfan on May 3, 2016 12:06:33 GMT 1
Yeah, I always thought he was. When he tookover Turner's squad, well, the five players and the 20 loan players it was suddenly all his fault and not that many people could blame Turner for the inept job he did in that season. Now people all want him to get the sack. Why? I think it's because they want an easy target to blame for that relegation season. He did not take us down, he took over a while after the transfer window had shut and had to try and make the most of what Turner left behind. Very, very easy target and probably justified but for completely the wrong reasons.
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Post by callum on May 3, 2016 22:05:02 GMT 1
I suppose some it stems from the fact he's Roland's man, rather than Mellon's choice. Therefore when things aren't going well then he will be seen as an extension of Roland and get the same grief thrown at him. He also has a reputation of someone who regularly falls out with his players, however the only example fans can give is Hector In his defence people complain about him saying he's coaching a team who struggle and concede a lot of goals so must take the blame, forgetting that 12 months ago he was coaching a team who were doing very well and conceding very few. I have no idea what he is like us a coach/assistant manager, I do know that based on around a third of the season he was in charge I wouldn't want him managing the club again. But my biggest gripe is if it is true that any new manager has to work with him then I don't believe it's healthy but that's more of a criticism of Roland Wasn't there an incident with gornell after the Hereford cup game?
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Post by Dale on May 4, 2016 6:30:38 GMT 1
Wasn't there an incident with gornell after the Hereford cup game? I heard Gornell was kicked off the coach by MJ at Ludlow on the way back from that game, not sure what for though!
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Post by Exkeeper on May 4, 2016 7:27:32 GMT 1
I would have sent the coach home empty after that Hereford debacle, and made the lot of them walk back to Salop. I guess I wouldn't be invited to join the coaching staff then.
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