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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2016 15:02:38 GMT 1
How about "When Mexico sends their people. They send the worst people. Their rapists. And SOME I assume are good people."
Or just on stupid comments on ISIS "I would hit them so hard. First you get rid of the oil. Then you bomb them, and encircle and take them out." The interviewer asks "SO your going to put ground troops in Syria" TRUMP replies "Im not saying anything".
The man has flip flopped more than any candidate such as John Kerry. Stephen Colbert managed to achieve a debate between Donald and Trump using footage.
And if that was not enough the Daily show exposed him falesly pandering to evangelical christians claiming his book 'The art of the deal' is a close second to the bible. He then went on about "Number two Corinthians" being his favorite passage.
He is a false, egotistical moron utilising his celebrity status to manipulate idiotic american voters. And the best joke is Ted Cruz in second place is almost as bad.
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Post by lenny on Jan 30, 2016 15:02:41 GMT 1
I would agree that he isn't necessarily racist. Bigoted would probably be more of an accurate way to describe his relentless negative spiels towards those minorities he chooses to pursue. I suspect much of what he says he knows is pie-in-the-sky, completely unfeasible nonsense and he's just trying to appeal to a right-wing core of voters and move on from there. Trouble is, his anti-Muslim rhetoric isn't exactly going to do much good in showing Daesh's "us vs the West" propaganda up for what it is.
My gut feeling is that he won't be elected but it certainly isn't beyond possibility. Might well split the Republican party though.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2016 15:41:42 GMT 1
How about "When Mexico sends their people. They send the worst people. Their rapists. And SOME I assume are good people." Mexicans aren't a race, sunshine. Oh thats fine then. Sorry guess Donald is a kind hearted John Lennon like lover of all people. Doesnt lessen the offense such comments obviously cause and Mexicans are often in America the basic stereotype of hispanic people being drug dealing criminals.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2016 15:42:53 GMT 1
I think he's a howwible howwible wacist!
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Post by highlandshrew on Jan 30, 2016 16:08:33 GMT 1
How about his tweet in 2013 that the "overwhelming amount of violent crime in our major cities is committed by blacks and [H]ispanics". Whilst this may be true So pointing out a fact - which you then ascertain to be true - makes him a racist?Would it have been racist for a BME social commentator to point out that the vast majority of speeding offenders are white? I wouldn't have thought so; so why the double standards? No. It is the implication that it is because of their race that they are violent makes him a racist. Why else would he choose to make the connection between skin colour and crime? And yes, connecting speeding offences to skin colour would be just as racists as Trump's generalised implication that blacks are criminals (as was the 1970's xenophobia that Scottish people are mean, the Irish are thick, etc.). p.s. I notice you 'snipped' my observation about Trump and his record of picking on minorities.
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Post by Exkeeper on Feb 2, 2016 19:35:47 GMT 1
Hope he doesn't get too upset about being overlooked last night, it wouldn't take much for him to get his hair off.
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Post by salop999 on Feb 10, 2016 12:24:43 GMT 1
A massive victory for Trump last night. Him becoming the next US president really is turning into a reality.
This board obviously has its fair share of left wing nancy boys and right wing nut jobs, but whichever side you fall on this would be truly monumental if it happens.
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Post by lenny on Feb 10, 2016 12:57:45 GMT 1
Whenever I think our entrenched, institutionalised political system is bad I look at America's and am grateful it's not as horrendous as theirs.
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Post by shrewder on Feb 10, 2016 13:41:23 GMT 1
Never fail to be amazed as to the sort of individuals that the American electorate are prepared to vote into high office.
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Post by neilsalop on Feb 10, 2016 14:39:49 GMT 1
A massive victory for Trump last night. Him becoming the next US president really is turning into a reality. This board obviously has its fair share of left wing nancy boys and right wing nut jobs, but whichever side you fall on this would be truly monumental if it happens. The thought of that idiot with his finger on the red button scares the sh17 out of me. On the upside Bernie Sanders thrashed Clinton, so hopefully there will be a decent human being in the White House for a change. Now all we need is Cameron to eff off, so we can get Corbyn into no. 10 and start taking the power back from the banks.
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Post by shrewder on Feb 10, 2016 14:57:13 GMT 1
A massive victory for Trump last night. Him becoming the next US president really is turning into a reality. This board obviously has its fair share of left wing nancy boys and right wing nut jobs, but whichever side you fall on this would be truly monumental if it happens. The thought of that idiot with his finger on the red button scares the sh17 out of me. On the upside Bernie Sanders thrashed Clinton, so hopefully there will be a decent human being in the White House for a change. Now all we need is Cameron to eff off, so we can get Corbyn into no. 10 and start taking the power back from the banks. Corbyn. Now someone's really having a laugh!!!
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Post by venceremos on Feb 10, 2016 15:29:07 GMT 1
A massive victory for Trump last night. Him becoming the next US president really is turning into a reality. This board obviously has its fair share of left wing nancy boys and right wing nut jobs, but whichever side you fall on this would be truly monumental if it happens. A monumental disaster perhaps but it's far from being a reality. It's a long, long way to the White House from here and many past Iowa (where Trump lost) and New Hampshire primary winners failed to get their party's nomination. Anti-establishment candidates are having some early success on both sides, whether that lasts is another thing. Trump (and all other candidates) has less than 1.5% of the delegate votes he needs to win the nomination. Very early days. The Republican winner of the South Carolina primary won the party nomination in every election between 1980-2008. However Newt Gingrich, less of a nut job than Trump, won there in 2012 but fell back afterwards and wasn't the Republican candidate in 2012. South Carolina comes next (20 Feb for the Republicans, 27 Feb for the Democrats). Super Tuesday (1 March) will be a much better indicator as a cross section of state primaries are held then and it's the first real test of national electability for candidates. The polls are interesting. National polling has only Rubio or Cruz (both more likely to win the backing of the Republican party establishment) beating either Clinton or Sanders in a two horse race presidential election. It could be a three horse race if Trump doesn't get the Republican nomination but runs as an independent (as he promises to), but in that case every one of 17 polls has a Clinton win. According to the polls, Trump's best chance of winning comes if Michael Bloomberg runs as an independent and takes votes from the Democrat candidate. Four of 13 polls have Trump then winning if he's the Republican nominee, but 8 of those polls still indicate a Clinton or Sanders win for the Democrats. The polls will no doubt fluctuate but they're not yet telling a convincing story of a Trump presidency.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Feb 10, 2016 17:37:59 GMT 1
I'm all for seeing the Tories out but certainly not if the only alternative is Corbyn. F**k that for a game of soldiers...
The UK is desperate for a real true third alternative. There has to be someone out there who is able and willing to take the middle ground between the Tories and this new old Labour. I mean now would be the time, I really do think that there is now a real opportunity in British politics to grab the middle ground and see off both the Tories and Labour. Just typical that the LibDems are all at sea just at the time they could have made an impact. But it can be done surely, I appreciate that UKIP have been around for years but it's only recently that they have really made an impact in the polls isn't it? So it proves that someone could take up the mantel and see us right.
The only reason the Tories are in is because people are scared s**t of what Labour would do to the country (more so now with Corbyn and the Corbynista in place). That's no choice. That's not how it should be.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2016 17:44:30 GMT 1
I'm all for seeing the Tories out but certainly not if the only alternative is Corbyn. F**k that for a game of soldiers... The UK is desperate for a real true third alternative. There has to be someone out there who is able and willing to take the middle ground between the Tories and this new old Labour. I mean now would be the time, I really do think that there is now a real opportunity in British politics to grab the middle ground and see off both the Tories and Labour. Just typical that the LibDems are all at sea just at the time they could have made an impact. But it can be done surely, I appreciate that UKIP have been around for years but it's only recently that they have really made an impact in the polls isn't it? So it proves that someone could take up the mantel and see us right. The only reason the Tories are in is because people are scared s**t of what Labour would do to the country (more so now with Corbyn and the Corbynista in place). That's no choice. That's not how it should be. Genuine question. I assume you live in Germany. Do you get to vote in our elections?
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Feb 10, 2016 17:51:03 GMT 1
I'm all for seeing the Tories out but certainly not if the only alternative is Corbyn. F**k that for a game of soldiers... The UK is desperate for a real true third alternative. There has to be someone out there who is able and willing to take the middle ground between the Tories and this new old Labour. I mean now would be the time, I really do think that there is now a real opportunity in British politics to grab the middle ground and see off both the Tories and Labour. Just typical that the LibDems are all at sea just at the time they could have made an impact. But it can be done surely, I appreciate that UKIP have been around for years but it's only recently that they have really made an impact in the polls isn't it? So it proves that someone could take up the mantel and see us right. The only reason the Tories are in is because people are scared s**t of what Labour would do to the country (more so now with Corbyn and the Corbynista in place). That's no choice. That's not how it should be. Genuine question. I assume you live in Germany. Do you get to vote in our elections? I think I can if I want to but have never done so. I keep seeing advertisements across my Facebook page telling me how I can vote from Germany anyhows...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2016 17:51:49 GMT 1
I'm all for seeing the Tories out but certainly not if the only alternative is Corbyn. F**k that for a game of soldiers... The UK is desperate for a real true third alternative. There has to be someone out there who is able and willing to take the middle ground between the Tories and this new old Labour. I mean now would be the time, I really do think that there is now a real opportunity in British politics to grab the middle ground and see off both the Tories and Labour. Just typical that the LibDems are all at sea just at the time they could have made an impact. But it can be done surely, I appreciate that UKIP have been around for years but it's only recently that they have really made an impact in the polls isn't it? So it proves that someone could take up the mantel and see us right. The only reason the Tories are in is because people are scared s**t of what Labour would do to the country (more so now with Corbyn and the Corbynista in place). That's no choice. That's not how it should be. Genuine question. I assume you live in Germany. Do you get to vote in our elections? I think the rule is if you were previously registered to vote, you can do so if you have not been domiciled abroad more than 15years....
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Post by SeanBroseley on Feb 11, 2016 22:27:24 GMT 1
In reality there is little difference between Cruz and Trump - except this - Republicans on Capitol Hill seem to have a loathing for Cruz. They probably think that they can control Trump if he gets elected. You know, how the Christian Democrats thought they could control Hitler.
Well done Bernie Sanders.
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Post by SeanBroseley on Feb 11, 2016 22:32:14 GMT 1
I'm all for seeing the Tories out but certainly not if the only alternative is Corbyn. F**k that for a game of soldiers... The UK is desperate for a real true third alternative. There has to be someone out there who is able and willing to take the middle ground between the Tories and this new old Labour. I mean now would be the time, I really do think that there is now a real opportunity in British politics to grab the middle ground and see off both the Tories and Labour. Just typical that the LibDems are all at sea just at the time they could have made an impact. But it can be done surely, I appreciate that UKIP have been around for years but it's only recently that they have really made an impact in the polls isn't it? So it proves that someone could take up the mantel and see us right. The only reason the Tories are in is because people are scared s**t of what Labour would do to the country (more so now with Corbyn and the Corbynista in place). That's no choice. That's not how it should be. I'm an extremist but not a fanatic. I joined the Labour party in May because I think it is time that the centre-ground needs to be shifted back to the centre. And I can tell you one thing about Jeremy Corbyn's leadership - you don't hear anymore about the PLP abstaining on tax credits.
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Post by andygroundo on Feb 12, 2016 3:31:21 GMT 1
Genuine question. I assume you live in Germany. Do you get to vote in our elections? I think the rule is if you were previously registered to vote, you can do so if you have not been domiciled abroad more than 15years.... Almost. You should have been registered to vote in the previous 15 years prior to leaving the UK. 15 year's after leaving the UK you lose the right to vote.
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Post by thatcherschild on Feb 12, 2016 8:41:40 GMT 1
A massive victory for Trump last night. Him becoming the next US president really is turning into a reality. This board obviously has its fair share of left wing nancy boys and right wing nut jobs, but whichever side you fall on this would be truly monumental if it happens. i do feel that 'left wing nancy boys' on this board should be classed in the 'nut job' category as well. please note: i am not disrespecting you as people,only the drivel you come out with.
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Post by mattmw on Feb 12, 2016 10:33:24 GMT 1
Trump clearly doesn't have the support of the Republican Party leadership, and normally in that case you see the "rebel" candidate fall away as the process rolls on, due to them having less resources or being the part of a smear campaign
That won't work with Trump as he clearly has the cash to continue his campaign and it's hard to think of any new scandal about Trump he hasn't already made himself
Think he will last the course but can't see him winning enough of the middle ground in US to become president
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2016 11:46:34 GMT 1
i do feel that 'left wing nancy boys' on this board should be classed in the 'nut job' category as well. please note: i am not disrespecting you as people,only the drivel you come out with. Brilliant
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Post by salop999 on Feb 24, 2016 8:12:39 GMT 1
A massive victory for Trump last night. Him becoming the next US president really is turning into a reality. This board obviously has its fair share of left wing nancy boys and right wing nut jobs, but whichever side you fall on this would be truly monumental if it happens. A monumental disaster perhaps but it's far from being a reality. It's a long, long way to the White House from here and many past Iowa (where Trump lost) and New Hampshire primary winners failed to get their party's nomination. Anti-establishment candidates are having some early success on both sides, whether that lasts is another thing. Trump (and all other candidates) has less than 1.5% of the delegate votes he needs to win the nomination. Very early days. The Republican winner of the South Carolina primary won the party nomination in every election between 1980-2008. However Newt Gingrich, less of a nut job than Trump, won there in 2012 but fell back afterwards and wasn't the Republican candidate in 2012. South Carolina comes next (20 Feb for the Republicans, 27 Feb for the Democrats). Super Tuesday (1 March) will be a much better indicator as a cross section of state primaries are held then and it's the first real test of national electability for candidates. The polls are interesting. National polling has only Rubio or Cruz (both more likely to win the backing of the Republican party establishment) beating either Clinton or Sanders in a two horse race presidential election. It could be a three horse race if Trump doesn't get the Republican nomination but runs as an independent (as he promises to), but in that case every one of 17 polls has a Clinton win. According to the polls, Trump's best chance of winning comes if Michael Bloomberg runs as an independent and takes votes from the Democrat candidate. Four of 13 polls have Trump then winning if he's the Republican nominee, but 8 of those polls still indicate a Clinton or Sanders win for the Democrats. The polls will no doubt fluctuate but they're not yet telling a convincing story of a Trump presidency. What are your thoughts now? I'm genuinely interested. Another victory for Trump last night. Unstoppable.....
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Post by venceremos on Feb 24, 2016 11:33:51 GMT 1
A monumental disaster perhaps but it's far from being a reality. It's a long, long way to the White House from here and many past Iowa (where Trump lost) and New Hampshire primary winners failed to get their party's nomination. Anti-establishment candidates are having some early success on both sides, whether that lasts is another thing. Trump (and all other candidates) has less than 1.5% of the delegate votes he needs to win the nomination. Very early days. The Republican winner of the South Carolina primary won the party nomination in every election between 1980-2008. However Newt Gingrich, less of a nut job than Trump, won there in 2012 but fell back afterwards and wasn't the Republican candidate in 2012. South Carolina comes next (20 Feb for the Republicans, 27 Feb for the Democrats). Super Tuesday (1 March) will be a much better indicator as a cross section of state primaries are held then and it's the first real test of national electability for candidates. The polls are interesting. National polling has only Rubio or Cruz (both more likely to win the backing of the Republican party establishment) beating either Clinton or Sanders in a two horse race presidential election. It could be a three horse race if Trump doesn't get the Republican nomination but runs as an independent (as he promises to), but in that case every one of 17 polls has a Clinton win. According to the polls, Trump's best chance of winning comes if Michael Bloomberg runs as an independent and takes votes from the Democrat candidate. Four of 13 polls have Trump then winning if he's the Republican nominee, but 8 of those polls still indicate a Clinton or Sanders win for the Democrats. The polls will no doubt fluctuate but they're not yet telling a convincing story of a Trump presidency. What are your thoughts now? I'm genuinely interested. Another victory for Trump last night. Unstoppable..... Unstoppable for the Republican nomination or unstoppable for the presidency? First of all, it's only a handful of states that have held their primaries, so party voters in 90% of US states have yet to have their say, including all the big ones. Trump still only has 6.4% of the delegate votes he needs to win the Republican nomination - another 93.6% is a long way from home. His rivals are some way back but it can change quickly, depending on when candidates drop out of the race. There are still 5 Republican candidates - Kasich and Carson will surely pull out soon. The key question is when will Rubio or Cruz drop out? When that happens, the party establishment can unite behind a single candidate. If that isn't too long delayed then there could still be a real fight for the nomination. If Rubio and Cruz both stay in too long and split the establishment vote, then Trump is likely to be the Republican candidate. Then he'd probably face Clinton for the presidency. In the national polls for a Clinton v Trump election, only 3 show a winner outside the poll's margin of error and that's Clinton in each case. The other 6 are effectively neck and neck. The aggregate polls show Clinton beating Trump by between 3-4.5%. Very close. Perhaps significantly, Rubio has the best national polling of the Republican candidates, which suggests he could win votes from outside the Republican core that Trump and others couldn't get. So I still think it's wide open. What we're seeing on TV is all internal party stuff, so of course it's going to tell a partisan story and Trump is that story at the moment for the Republicans, plus he's the only one we outside the US really know anything about. When we stop seeing his supporters and start seeing more of his opponents (both Republican and, if he gets that far, Democrat), the picture might change.
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Post by mattmw on Feb 24, 2016 14:28:36 GMT 1
Bookies have Clinton 3/4 to be next President Trump out at 10/3 so still the outsider with the bookies
Not quite sure where the conventions have been so far but commentators expect Trump to do well in rural areas, but less well in cities and southern states with higher ethnic voting populations
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2016 16:56:23 GMT 1
I had a nightmare , I drempt Trump would be President and Boris Prime Minister . Tell me it's never going to happen . What a wonderful " special relationship " that would make . As I said , I had a nightmare .
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Post by kuffdam72 on Feb 24, 2016 17:52:48 GMT 1
I had a nightmare , I drempt Trump would be President and Boris Prime Minister . Tell me it's never going to happen . What a wonderful " special relationship " that would make . As I said , I had a nightmare . My Nigel and Mr Trump would be my dream ticket ;-)
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Post by venceremos on Feb 24, 2016 18:07:20 GMT 1
I had a nightmare , I drempt Trump would be President and Boris Prime Minister . Tell me it's never going to happen . What a wonderful " special relationship " that would make . As I said , I had a nightmare . My Nigel and Mr Trump would be my dream ticket ;-) Your Nigel? Tell us more!
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Post by venceremos on Feb 24, 2016 18:08:34 GMT 1
I had a nightmare , I drempt Trump would be President and Boris Prime Minister . Tell me it's never going to happen . What a wonderful " special relationship " that would make . As I said , I had a nightmare . It's never going to happen. [We must have hope or else what's the point?]
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Post by venceremos on Feb 24, 2016 18:51:48 GMT 1
Bookies have Clinton 3/4 to be next President Trump out at 10/3 so still the outsider with the bookies Not quite sure where the conventions have been so far but commentators expect Trump to do well in rural areas, but less well in cities and southern states with higher ethnic voting populations Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina & Nevada have gone. Super Tuesday (next week) will tell us more, when 13 convention results come in. They'll include Texas, the first of the big states to be involved, with 155 Republican delegates (Nevada had 30). Cruz should do well there, being a Texan, but he's doing worst of the likely Republican winners - a born again Christian ultra-conservative who's failing to command a lead even within that sector. He looks finished. So Trump has done well but: - it's still only smaller states that have voted, and only four of them. - very little anti-Trump campaigning has happened within the party. That will change if a clear opponent emerges (probably Rubio) & the party rallies behind him. - there are now 43 non-Trump delegates (compared to his 82), and many of them will be able to vote freely if and when their man drops out. - Trump won South Carolina with 32.5% of the vote but the rules meant all 50 delegates went to him. A win by another candidate in another state with similar rules could skew the overall picture in a different direction. - Trump's reported winning of the Hispanic vote in Nevada is a huge exaggeration - only 8% of the state's Republican voters were Hispanic and his "win" accounted for about 1% of the Hispanic population. This is likely to be a big factor later in the race. - Trump averages 36% in the polls amongst Republicans nationally but was at 48% in Nevada. On the day he won 46% - Nevada was always pro-Trump and produced the expected result. His polling varies from 50% of Massachusetts Republicans to just 18% in Utah. No denying Trump's doing well but it's too early to say he has a winning momentum. And even if he gets that, he's then got to win the presidential election itself. But what a stupid system, eh? Fascinating though, from a distance.
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