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Post by neilsalop on Sept 2, 2015 16:34:15 GMT 1
The thing I like most about their new stadium is (judging by the artists impressions) going to have a supporters bar
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2015 17:03:47 GMT 1
We haven't fallen anywhere, we're basically where we should be for a club of our size and turnover. Well it has taken us 18 years to almost scramble back to where the club had consolidated when I first watched the Town in 1969/70 season! I say almost, because there is no evidence to suggest we will consolidate on the field this season in League One yet, although financially it would appear we are well equiped for league One for the time being!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2015 18:38:59 GMT 1
We haven't fallen anywhere, we're basically where we should be for a club of our size and turnover. Well it has taken us 18 years to almost scramble back to where the club had consolidated when I first watched the Town in 1969/70 season! I say almost, because there is no evidence to suggest we will consolidate on the field this season in League One yet, although financially it would appear we are well equiped for league One for the time being! Well, yes, ups and downs and all that, Brentford have had the same. The point is we are were we should be and hopefully will stay for the foreseeable future. Mid table (ish).
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Post by accordingtome on Sept 2, 2015 19:28:28 GMT 1
At least Swansea have a local council that realise the football club is an asset to the community, unlike SABC which is so stuck up it's own rear end, it does everything it possibly can to oppose the club
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Post by mattmw on Sept 2, 2015 21:40:31 GMT 1
At least Swansea have a local council that realise the football club is an asset to the community, unlike SABC which is so stuck up it's own rear end, it does everything it possibly can to oppose the club Shrewsbury and Atcham Borough Council went out of existence 6 years ago! And with the exception of a few Councillors was actually very supportive of the move to the new ground, rewriting part of their planning policy to accommodate the move to the new ground
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Post by sussexshrew on Sept 3, 2015 1:15:48 GMT 1
The crowds so far for the return of League 1 football have been disappointing, but I think there are several factors involved.
Certainly poor results will always deter some, and even though the season is only 5 games old, the town isn't buzzing about its football team.
Then there's the Estate Agent's idiom. The three most important factors are position, position and position. The old Meadow, for all its ramshackle facilities, was in such a good position, plenty of parking and a stroll from the Railway Station and Barker Street bus station, with good pubs all just minutes away.
I remember at the back end of the 60s, over 9,000 turned up for the opening fixture of the season (Frank Clark scoring the only goal in a 1-0 win over Port Vale, I think!).
But things were different... a one hour MOTD on a Saturday night was virtually the only TV football other than European Cup and Internationals. If you wanted to see live football, you went to the match. There was no Internet or computer games; there were just 3 channels on TV, so there was far less competition for leisure activities.
There were no agents, so players seemed to stay longer with the clubs which formed a continuity between the club and the fans.
But the biggest factor is that Shrewsbury is still a relatively small town, even though it is growing. When I first came to live in Shrewsbury, the population was just 49,000, so when 7,000 turned up, it was close to 1 in 7 of the population, although obviously that didn't allow for the then thriving out of town supporters clubs, which were pretty active.
Now with a population of over 70,000, rising to nearly 100,000 if you include "greater" Shrewsbury, there should be a potentially higher fan base, but the base figures aren't the whole story. There are some interesting facts: the 18 to 44 age group is as a percentage, substantially lower than the rest of the country, while the 45-85+ is substantially higher. (A recent survey showed that at 40%, the 18 to 35 age group were the largest group who attended matches)
This suggests that many of the newer arrivals to Shrewsbury are more likely to want to put their slippered feet up than trudge to the match, while if they are football fans, they probably have allegiances to other clubs, in the same way that I and many other Salop ex-pats have to the Town.
So not all of the population influx have increased the potential fan base.
However we have seen from the Chelsea game that there is a greater fan base out there than the the faithful who do turn up for the more mundane, so if we could put a good run together, then maybe we could get it above a 6,000 base, and that would be better. But I think the old days of 9,000 for a league match in the third tier are long gone.
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Sept 3, 2015 8:08:17 GMT 1
To a lot of local people a football club is a bit like a village church. You want it there for high days and holidays but not the week to week.
We had a bounce moving to the New stadium but friends of mine who suddenly jumped on board gradually drifted off.
I don't think we've been good at responding to fans concerns at the New stadium and the gripes affect people with less loyalty.
For me personally the allocated seat thing puts me right off because now I don't have a season ticket if I decide to go to a game I can't just go find my friends, I need to either find someone to come or choose to sit on my own, the latter I find pretty miserable so unless I can find someone to come I might not bother.
Football is a habit, and habits change, and once people find other things to do with their time and money then it's more difficult to win them back.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2015 8:49:29 GMT 1
A club can have the best facilities, stadium and 'match day experience' in the world, but if the 90 minutes is consistently e people won't come back.
We've had, at most, a couple of seasons where the football has been decent. Most people I know who have reduced their match going at the NGM have cited poor football and lack of on field progress.
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Post by clive on Sept 3, 2015 21:22:40 GMT 1
More than thirty years ago salop were paying 100000 for players John dung worth a big fee in those days as big as anything laid out by our league opponents at that time the likes of Chelsea and west ham. Yes the club has gone backwards over the years and like many on here say only a mega rich chairman could change things again
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Post by SheffieldShrew on Sept 16, 2015 11:19:04 GMT 1
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Post by Worthingshrew on Sept 16, 2015 12:33:09 GMT 1
I see they're in bottom 4 after last night's defeat, and only had 6 on the bench. Woods came on again if even for only a few mins of injury time. The way they treated Warburton, I hope they get relegated.
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Post by northwestman on Sept 16, 2015 12:36:16 GMT 1
For Webb and Noades read Ridsdale, Bates, Hammam, Mandaric, Hamilton, Guterman, Vaughan and so many more.
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Post by jamo on Sept 16, 2015 17:13:21 GMT 1
Thanks for that. A really interesting read.
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Post by GlosShrew on Sept 16, 2015 20:14:53 GMT 1
That is an excellent read and is an eye-opener on the goings-on that happens with football clubs these days (also puts Matthew Benham in a better light) - Roland may not be perfect but at least we know where his heart lies.
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