paulshrew
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Post by paulshrew on Mar 30, 2015 11:44:10 GMT 1
fansonline.net/portsmouth/mb/view.php?id=583517interesting read, a list of all the signings a bit further down the thread, if true, didn't realise Tyrone Barnett was the only player we've bought this season, the rest on free or loan signings?
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Mar 30, 2015 12:10:53 GMT 1
fansonline.net/portsmouth/mb/view.php?id=583517interesting read, a list of all the signings a bit further down the thread, if true, didn't realise Tyrone Barnett was the only player we've bought this season, the rest on free or loan signings? I would have thought so. I think that's how it works for the vast majority (if not all) clubs at our level now. You'll see players move about but for the most part its either free agency or loans. I don't think too many clubs spend a great deal on transfers these days. In the 4th I mean...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2015 12:30:55 GMT 1
fansonline.net/portsmouth/mb/view.php?id=583517interesting read, a list of all the signings a bit further down the thread, if true, didn't realise Tyrone Barnett was the only player we've bought this season, the rest on free or loan signings? I would have thought so. I think that's how it works for the vast majority (if not all) clubs at our level now. You'll see players move about but for the most part its either free agency or loans. I don't think too many clubs spend a great deal on transfers these days. In the 4th I mean... Absolutely Stutty, MM deserves much credit this season, for many things, but he's had one of the higher budgets in this league. It's irrelevant whether he's spent it on wages or transfer fees, he's spent it well in the main and that is all that matters.
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Post by shrewed46 on Mar 30, 2015 13:05:51 GMT 1
Here we go again, Turner had one of the lowest budgets and Mellon has one of the highest, and these comments are down to rumours and guesstimates and my contact is better than your contact - Oh no he isn't.
At the end of the day although budget is important it is how the manager spends it that matter, good manager will get better value per pound spent, poorer manager get a negative value for each pound spent.
Hopefully MM will have the opportunity to prove he is a good manager in Division 3 as well as Division 4 next season.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Mar 30, 2015 14:56:52 GMT 1
Here we go again, Turner had one of the lowest budgets and Mellon has one of the highest... Woah there. Where did that come from? I suspect both Turner and Mellon have had pretty much the same budget to be honest. That's why both were able to put together a side to get us out of this division. As for when we get promoted (fingers crossed), I don't expect Mellon to get any more money than what Turner did but we might well have a different remit on how that money can be used (as in from lessons learnt, the Barnett signing being case in point).
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2015 15:04:59 GMT 1
Here we go again, Turner had one of the lowest budgets and Mellon has one of the highest... Woah there. Where did that come from? I suspect both Turner and Mellon have had pretty much the same budget to be honest. That's why both were able to put together a side to get us out of this division. As for when we get promoted (fingers crossed), I don't expect Mellon to get any more money than what Turner did but we might well have a different remit on how that money can be used (as in from lessons learnt, the Barnett signing being case in point). There is a major core difference between last promotion and, hopefully, this. Last time a large part of the team were out of contract and this time the majority are on another year at least AND would appear better equipped, football wise, for League One.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2015 15:09:58 GMT 1
Here we go again, Turner had one of the lowest budgets and Mellon has one of the highest... Woah there. Where did that come from? I suspect both Turner and Mellon have had pretty much the same budget to be honest. That's why both were able to put together a side to get us out of this division. As for when we get promoted (fingers crossed), I don't expect Mellon to get any more money than what Turner did but we might well have a different remit on how that money can be used (as in from lessons learnt, the Barnett signing being case in point). Yep, club accounts (as posted on here several times) have shown similar budgets for Peters (in his last season), Simpson and Turner. I think most people would realise Mellon's budget this season would be at least the same. MM has spent well like GT did leading up to our promotion season.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2015 15:12:12 GMT 1
Woah there. Where did that come from? I suspect both Turner and Mellon have had pretty much the same budget to be honest. That's why both were able to put together a side to get us out of this division. As for when we get promoted (fingers crossed), I don't expect Mellon to get any more money than what Turner did but we might well have a different remit on how that money can be used (as in from lessons learnt, the Barnett signing being case in point). There is a major core difference between last promotion and, hopefully, this. Last time a large part of the team were out of contract and this time the majority are on another year at least AND would appear better equipped, football wise, for League One. Yes it would be a real bonus to get promoted this time around.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Mar 30, 2015 15:14:11 GMT 1
Woah there. Where did that come from? I suspect both Turner and Mellon have had pretty much the same budget to be honest. That's why both were able to put together a side to get us out of this division. As for when we get promoted (fingers crossed), I don't expect Mellon to get any more money than what Turner did but we might well have a different remit on how that money can be used (as in from lessons learnt, the Barnett signing being case in point). There is a major core difference between last promotion and, hopefully, this. Last time a large part of the team were out of contract and this time the majority are on another year at least AND would appear better equipped, football wise, for League One. Well the bit about football wise I'll take with a grain of salt, lets see. Hopefully that is the case. As for the contracts, that is indeed very good news. I would hope that is a result of the club learning from past experience rather than by chance. I have no doubt we will be better prepared this time around. We should be anyhows...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2015 16:31:47 GMT 1
Mid table... no problem. Better strikers, better midfield, better defence and a keeper who won't be called upon to be player of the season!!!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2015 18:48:11 GMT 1
Of course he's had a decent budget, the likes of Collins, Vernon, Lawrence, Knight-Percival, Wesolowski and of course Barnett would be on decent wages. But then there will be a combination of lower league journeyman or unproven youngsters who have been brought in and arent going to be on huge wages.
But as Paul Simpson proved, money is no guarantee of success so Mickey should be congratulated if he manages to get us promoted in his first season.
In terms of contracts, GT generally signed players on 2 year contracts of which many expired in his second seson when we got promoted. Mickey has also signed many on a 2 year deal, the difference of course is we could get promoted in the first season. So I dont see it as the club learning from their mistakes, although saying that they do seem to be adding clauses such as "an option of extending the contract" which of course is good news
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Post by mattmw on Mar 30, 2015 19:13:18 GMT 1
Think another advantage of going up this year would be the big jump in tv money. Think next season there is about £120,000 difference between League's One and Two
Overall think the new ground and income streams have put us in the position of being able to be a relative big spender on wages in league two.
While that's no guarantee of promotion it's a big help, and looking at average attendances this season we'd appear to have better income than most of our rivals. Add in the fees we got from Bradshaw and Taylor, plus the cup run money and you would assume the playing budget is as good as many we've had in the last 7 years
Big test comes next season when we go up, and how we can compete for league one players without being able to match the wages of the bigger spenders in the league. That's really going to be the big test of our manager and the new set up at the club
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Post by markglasgow on Mar 30, 2015 20:10:00 GMT 1
I'm not taking anything for granted. Saw many teams romp through L2 only to struggle in L1.
Hopeful but not certain.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2015 21:17:38 GMT 1
The board confirmed we would have one of the biggest three or four budgets in the division this year whilst confirming we were in the bottom 6 budgets in league 1.
Regardless of this, MM is doing a fine job.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2015 23:19:43 GMT 1
Providing we go up the real test for Mellon will come then. If he can achieve where GT failed with the same budget then respect is due but that remains to be seen. I hope he can.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2015 9:39:42 GMT 1
Chesterfield, Rochdale and Gillingham may offer hope and be good comparisons should we go up again. They all seem to be having decent seasons in League 1 after yo-yoing between 1 and 2 in recent years. They've obviously learned some lessons from the failures first time around.
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