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Post by shrewed46 on Mar 15, 2015 9:05:49 GMT 1
According to Nige he is happy to prop up Dave in the event of a hung parliament, now there is something to worry about. Britain isolated from the rest of the world run be an incompetent and an isolationist.
Where's my ticket to anywhere!
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Post by jonbond on Mar 15, 2015 9:21:03 GMT 1
Well whatever the pitfalls of such a deal it would be infinitely better than a labour Snp carve up
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Post by Exkeeper on Mar 15, 2015 10:58:35 GMT 1
I guess it all comes down to opinions. What happens to UKIP if they get their wish on a referendum, only to lose it? Conversely what happens to Cameron if they win it - he knows that we need to be in the EU. He will then have been out thought by his junior partner.
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Post by atcham jack on Mar 15, 2015 12:02:23 GMT 1
thankfully 8 million will flock to vote for good old middle of the road lib dems. I agree with nick. vote lib dem.
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Post by shrewed46 on Mar 15, 2015 12:15:42 GMT 1
thankfully 8 million will flock to vote for good old middle of the road lib dems. I agree with nick. vote lib dem. The big question is will the voters of Sheffield Hallam agree with Nick, I would not be surprised to see Nick in ermine come June.
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Post by shrewder on Mar 15, 2015 12:18:21 GMT 1
Think the Lib Dem vote will collapse and they will be lucky if they end up with about 6 seats like the Liberals had in the 1960s
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Post by mrbunny on Mar 15, 2015 12:21:37 GMT 1
Think the Lib Dem vote will collapse and they will be lucky if they end up with about 6 seats like the Liberals had in the 1960s Be amazed if they end up with more than UKIP do to be honest. Not that I agree with UKIP but can see them doing quite well this time.
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Post by shrewder on Mar 15, 2015 12:27:41 GMT 1
Think the Lib Dem vote will collapse and they will be lucky if they end up with about 6 seats like the Liberals had in the 1960s Be amazed if they end up with more than UKIP do to be honest. Not that I agree with UKIP but can see them doing quite well this time. Agree and don't like UKIP. However as a rough benchmark I know plenty of UKIP supporters but not a single Lib Dem (apart from the odd one in the West Country)
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Post by frankwellshrews on Mar 15, 2015 13:23:10 GMT 1
Anyone else feel like the Tories knew they would need to form a Coalition again 5 years ago and set to work throwing their weight behind UKIP (lot of ex-Tory donors seemed to have switched to UKIP recently) as a kind of 'proxy' party and ready made coalition partner? 2 or 3 months back I was thinking UKIP had peaked too early but hadn't banked on them being willing to take the right wing dog whistles to the next level to get back in the papers. I have half a feeling they'll get a decent chunk of the vote come May.
As for the referendum, the Tories have survived ones on AV and Scottish independence and I have no doubt they'd use their media contacts to full effect to defeat UKIP on Europe. The anti-EU movement aren't half as big as they are vocal. They also have a massively over-inflated sense of how much support they've got and may get a nasty reality check when the sizeable proportion of people whose employment and businesses rely in some way on the EU (many of them Tories) get to cast their vote on it.
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Post by mattmw on Mar 15, 2015 13:53:52 GMT 1
There was even some talk this week of a Conservative Labour coalition from a senior conservative ex minister! Pretty much every combination is up for grabs by the looks of it!
Have always felt the Conservatives should call UKIP's bluff and call a referendum on EU membership. Tend to think business would go all out to get people to vote to keep us in, and labour, lib dems and SNP would all probably campaign to stop in too
Once the referendum is done a lot of UKIP's influence will diminish, especially if the vote is reasonably clear in voting to stop in
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Post by jonbond on Mar 15, 2015 17:40:37 GMT 1
thankfully 8 million will flock to vote for good old middle of the road lib dems. I agree with nick. vote lib dem. What planet are you on ! They got just over 6 million in 2010 at their peak and will Probably get about a third this time around . That said their seats will still be around 25-30, where's ukip will get 2 or 3 times as many votes but will probably only get 4 or 5 seats. That's the bonkers system we have which favours the big parties especially Labour
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2015 18:28:53 GMT 1
It’s all speculation at the moment.
However I have been smiling at the London centred media worried about a Labour/SNP coalition. I doubt they were too bothered about un-mandated policies forced on Scotland.
What goes around comes around or summat.
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Post by SeanBroseley on Mar 15, 2015 23:03:06 GMT 1
That will make wavering Labour voters think three times.
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Post by venceremos on Mar 16, 2015 12:15:35 GMT 1
Hopefully, Ukip will fall foul of the first past the post system (much as I dislike it) and end up with very few 1st places. That seems appropriate anyway, for a one man party.
Next stop the 1950s if we end up with a Tory/Ukip/Unionist coalition from hell.
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Post by atcham jack on Mar 16, 2015 15:10:37 GMT 1
I had a liberal democrat election focus news sheet this morning from springfield focus, Chelmsford. it may have won an award for long distance travel. it was in a cardboard box wrapped around 2 Britains lead model elephants. I am collecting a herd. quite informative news sheet
lib dems say they have halved deficit, they have given £800 tax refund to low and middle income earners, they have increased health budget and delivered 6k more doctors and they produced an extra £2.5bn a year for struggling school kids
hardly worth the Tories turning up really, The elephants are nice.
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Post by shrewed46 on Mar 22, 2015 14:08:22 GMT 1
Well it now look as if the Chicken Party will allegedly come to an arrangement with the EDL to win the election. If this is true the Tories are going to struggle in Dudley.
What a disgrace if true
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Post by SeanBroseley on Mar 22, 2015 21:43:06 GMT 1
Well it now look as if the Chicken Party will allegedly come to an arrangement with the EDL to win the election. If this is true the Tories are going to struggle in Dudley. What a disgrace if true One thing that makes me wary about this is that the sources for the story are The Mail on Sunday and the EDL's Tony Robinson. But, on the other hand, you have someone who is supposed to be serious about representing the people of Dudley North who has more pressing matter to deal with in Dubai than dealing with matters arising. A very odd story.
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Post by shrewed46 on Mar 23, 2015 10:56:31 GMT 1
Well it now look as if the Chicken Party will allegedly come to an arrangement with the EDL to win the election. If this is true the Tories are going to struggle in Dudley. What a disgrace if true One thing that makes me wary about this is that the sources for the story are The Mail on Sunday and the EDL's Tony Robinson. But, on the other hand, you have someone who is supposed to be serious about representing the people of Dudley North who has more pressing matter to deal with in Dubai than dealing with matters arising. A very odd story. Althought I agree with you about the source, what makes me think there might be something in it is that the Mail on Sunday is hardly likely to post a negative article about it's beloved Tory so close to an election. Now we have Salmon stating he will hold Labour to ransom. Personally I think all parties should forget about deals until after the electorate have spoken. Then Alex, Nige and Nick can hold one of the main parties to ransom.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2015 11:33:27 GMT 1
I certainly wont be happy voting for Labour if it means the SNP pulling the strings. But with the opinion polls as they are at the moment another coalition is the best? we can hope for in some form or another.
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Post by mattmw on Mar 23, 2015 11:41:08 GMT 1
The owners of the Mail have had it in for Cameron and the Conservatives for some time based on their European Policies and the perceived support Cameron gave to Leverson for restrictions on press freedom. So no surprise to see them stitching up the party
Going to be first of many stories about candidates from all parties though. Election campaign is going to be a very negative one sadly
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Post by WindsorShrew on Mar 23, 2015 13:41:05 GMT 1
I think Cameron and Osbourne for all their faults are still a better prospect than Milliband and Balls.
Frankly Blass scares me - clueless doesn't even come close.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2015 16:37:56 GMT 1
I think Cameron and Osbourne for all their faults are still a better prospect than Milliband and Balls.
Frankly Blass scares me - clueless doesn't even come close. Yayyy the village idiot is back, and he's managed a sentence without slipping a "Bliar" in there for good measure!
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Post by mattmw on Mar 23, 2015 23:34:46 GMT 1
Yet another mad day in politics with UKIP chucking out one of their Parliamentary candidates for fraud; the Dudley Tory candidate gets chucked out for faking an EDL parade and David Cameron wanders round his kitchen whilst ruling out a third term in office
Presumably Ed and Nick will be coming up with something to shoot themselves in the foot with tomorrow, as this election is fast turning into a "who can be the stupidest party in the country" competition
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Post by shrewed46 on Mar 26, 2015 15:00:22 GMT 1
The Tory Party have been defeated in their nasty attempt to have a DUP member elected as speaker after the election. So we can see the first Pact Tories and DUP. I wonder what next the Tories will offer the DUP for their support.
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