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Post by atcham jack on Jul 17, 2014 17:01:04 GMT 1
Malaysian boing 777 may have been shot down over ukraine/russian border. blame pointing to Kremlin. shor down from 6 miles high. 280 passengersw 15 crewe
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Post by TheFoz on Jul 17, 2014 17:04:18 GMT 1
Could be the start of something bigger.
Malaysian airlines again? Wow!
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Post by atcham jack on Jul 17, 2014 17:15:30 GMT 1
it appears plane has been shot down by east ukrainian rebels with missiles supplied by russians. thats 2 777's and 600 pssengers/ crewe lost by malaysian airways this year so far. flight was from amsterdam to kuala lumpa. flight over a war zone. there have been tit for tat shoot downs of war planes, this appears a horrible accident,
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Post by atcham jack on Jul 17, 2014 17:16:45 GMT 1
a long range air to air or ground to air radar guided missile may have been used,
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2014 17:30:16 GMT 1
A shocking loss of innocent lives and Malaysia has to again come to terms with another aircraft tragedy.
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Post by atcham jack on Jul 17, 2014 17:33:36 GMT 1
if this is a shoot down, ukraine say they have no sophisticated missiles capable of downing a plane from 6 miles high. not known if any britons on board. malaysian airways confirm they have lost contact with flight mh17 flying from amsterdam. missile BUK suspected, possibly supplied by russians to east ukrainian rebels.
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Jul 17, 2014 17:59:04 GMT 1
Russia will be really in the poo if they've done that.
It's like all these weird story lines out of a movie are coming true.
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Post by shrewder on Jul 17, 2014 18:02:52 GMT 1
No confirmation yet that it was shot down
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Post by jockeyshrew on Jul 17, 2014 18:21:19 GMT 1
Here's one for all you link lovers out there > LINKBut in all seriousness, thoughts go out to all friends and family of the victims. Very sad news..hopefully the situation doesn't esculate into something worse.
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Post by atcham jack on Jul 17, 2014 18:45:37 GMT 1
7 Britons on board, USA says satellites will know if shot down
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Post by onthepitch on Jul 17, 2014 20:34:30 GMT 1
It would have been easier (and more likely?) to shoot it air to air, than from the ground at that height.
Yet all we are hearing is that it was possibly a surface to air missile... Who is making these claims??
How do they know so soon to be able to speculate like this!?!? Murky murky info surely???
+ Only reason I can see for doing this is to blame the other side so I would trust nothing at this point.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2014 21:06:41 GMT 1
230 Palestinians killed in the last ten days. Doesn't seem to shock anyone!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2014 21:09:40 GMT 1
It'll soon be known whether it was a ground to air misile strike as USA will be watching this part of the world like a hawk.
There's a video on YouTube allegedly showing the moment the plane was hit but as it's not made its way onto news channels so far I wouldn't be too sure of it's legitimacy.
What does seem to be being widely reported is various sepratist social media posts claiming they had just shot down another Ukrainian transporter plane. Most of these posts disappeared once news broke that a civilian plane had gone off radar.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2014 21:10:23 GMT 1
230 Palestinians killed in the last ten days. Doesn't seem to shock anyone! And that'll only increase this evening. Far too much evil in the world.
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Post by onthepitch on Jul 17, 2014 21:11:39 GMT 1
230 Palestinians killed in the last ten days. Doesn't seem to shock anyone! And I was just thinking to myself, "as the worlds eyes are elsewhere Israel starts a ground offensive... " cynical or..??
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Post by champagneprince on Jul 17, 2014 21:31:51 GMT 1
230 Palestinians killed in the last ten days. Doesn't seem to shock anyone!
When I was born they were killing one another, when I die they will probably still be killing one another. The rest of the world can't help that area of our planet, they basically need to learn to live together peacefully. But they won't.
That's why I'm not shocked at all by the 230 deaths there.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2014 21:34:03 GMT 1
That area of the planet?
What about Asia? Africa? Europe? South America?
Some breathtaking arrogance being displayed at present.
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Post by champagneprince on Jul 17, 2014 21:39:42 GMT 1
That area of the planet? What about Asia? Africa? Europe? South America? Some breathtaking arrogance being displayed at present.
I quoted Matron whose reference was to that area of the planet.
But you're right, there are many areas of the world that I wouldn't be shocked about either !
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2014 21:46:54 GMT 1
CNN are reporting a radar system saw a ground to air missile system turn on and track an aircraft in the area just before the plane went down.
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Jul 17, 2014 23:04:35 GMT 1
230 Palestinians killed in the last ten days. Doesn't seem to shock anyone! Hamas did fire something like 1300 missiles into Israel during that time. Probably explains the difference with a passenger airline being blown out of the sky. I agree the timing of the ground offensive must be linked.
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Post by shrewinjapan on Jul 17, 2014 23:27:06 GMT 1
230 Palestinians killed in the last ten days. Doesn't seem to shock anyone! I agree the timing of the ground offensive must be linked. I don't. It's been coming for days and was always likely to follow the brief humanitarian truce. I don't think Israel would bother trying to hide what they are doing behind other news stories - they believe they are justified in what they are doing and they don't give a damn what anyone else thinks.
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Post by jamo on Jul 18, 2014 1:23:04 GMT 1
230 Palestinians killed in the last ten days. Doesn't seem to shock anyone! And have been for years and years. If only America could work so quickly to identify the source of that ! Genuinely shocking news today though from The Ukraine. Russia has a lot to answer for in this whole sorry saga.
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Post by davycrockett on Jul 18, 2014 7:23:35 GMT 1
230 Palestinians killed in the last ten days. Doesn't seem to shock anyone! I don't think the air passengers fired 1200 missiles at anyone over the last week! not defending the Isralies but at the moment the Palastinians are trying to challenge a nuclear nation with home made rockets and the Isralies would say they're just defending themselves
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Post by atcham jack on Jul 18, 2014 8:48:28 GMT 1
And games are tunneling into Israel, that is what caused Israel to start ground offensive.
Now known a large party of international aid delegates in route to Australia were on board flight
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Post by davycrockett on Jul 18, 2014 9:12:03 GMT 1
And games are tunneling into Israel, that is what caused Israel to start ground offensive. Now known a large party of international aid delegates in route to Australia were on board flight 'Aids' not aid I believe but tragic whoever....
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Post by shrewder on Jul 18, 2014 9:39:25 GMT 1
What this does show that the biggest danger from attack in the west is not from other countries but from powerful weaponry getting into rebel/terrorist hands.
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Jul 18, 2014 9:48:09 GMT 1
The deleted tweet about taking out another transport plane has to be the worst use of social media in a long time!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2014 9:50:36 GMT 1
Yes international Aids researchers heading out to one of the bigger international conferences in Melbourne or so I am told.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2014 10:43:54 GMT 1
230 Palestinians killed in the last ten days. Doesn't seem to shock anyone! Off course it does, but that tragedy is part of an ongoing conflict that is constantly reported to varying degrees of newsworthiness. Personally I find the deaths of migrants in the Med and S.E Asia just as sickening, but this isn’t about how clever we are in searching out news stories. This tragedy is a game changer, where a group of nationalist separatists now become a group of international terrorists. If it is proved that they shot down the aircraft of course.
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Post by flook on Jul 18, 2014 11:34:21 GMT 1
With the black box from the downed aircraft being sent to Moscow will anyone trust the russians findings. The heady days of perestroika, and a new and open Russia seem a lifetime ago.
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