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Post by owdlad on Jun 11, 2014 0:51:25 GMT 1
Well said. Let's not forget the local businesses who haven't been paid either like the company who maintained the pitch and say they are owed £20,000. If the club goes into admin then they can kiss goodbye to that.
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Post by shrewinjapan on Jun 11, 2014 4:38:29 GMT 1
Well said. Let's not forget the local businesses who haven't been paid either like the company who maintained the pitch and say they are owed £20,000. If the club goes into admin then they can kiss goodbye to that. Exactly, there are sure to be various creditors owed money other than the players and ex-manager.
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Post by jamo on Jun 11, 2014 7:11:29 GMT 1
I'm not gloating JT but neither do I overly care that they have suffered the inevitable consequences of their collective actions.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2014 7:45:23 GMT 1
And 99% of the Hereford fans I have ever met have been arrogant tosspots with a hugely over inflated opinion of their standing in British football, Very true - they had ONE....ONE! stand out result against Newcastle nearly half a century ago and they still can't belt up over it!
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Post by bobbytheblock19er on Jun 11, 2014 8:00:24 GMT 1
Its their fans that do it for me. Like the one on here that reckoned they were known worldwide. Haha BULLs**t. Goodnight hereford
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Post by highlandshrew on Jun 11, 2014 8:21:09 GMT 1
Your absolutely right that I have no devine right to judge others stance. However the following comment And 99% of the Hereford fans I have ever met have been arrogant tosspots with a hugely over inflated opinion of their standing in British football, Is poor form, plain and simple. There you go again ! I stand by the statement about 99% of the Hereford fans I have encountered. Where you there at the time ? Can you dissuade me that that view is wrong ? Poor form in your opinion only. Fans of all clubs- whatever their standing in the English game- will have their view as to the current situation at HUFC, personally I couldn't give a toss as to their demise. I would rather have them replaced by a progressive, sustainable and manageable club than see - and endure- the annual soap opera that has been the case for years. Some Hereford fans will mourn their demise. English football won't. " Poor form in your opinion only" Actually, your statement is poor form in my opinion too, so you are wrong there. " Some Hereford fans will mourn their demise. English football won't" So, you are a spokesman for the whole of English football now? Are you sure that the 'arrogant tossers' you speak of aren't something you've seen in a mirror whilst shaving? It seems to me that Hereford's demise is the result of financial mismanagement by the owners who followed GT. Quite how much power the fans had in affecting this I'm not sure? Oh, and as for the missing 2,500 fans. Can someone tell me the last time Hereford averaged over 4,000 for a league season. IMO they have always been a small club, but it has been implied that the supporters have suddenly disappeared in the hour of need, although from what I can find the level of support has been gradually falling since GT left (e.g. average att 2009-10 = 2,109 (League 2)). Personally, I wish their supporters all the best and hope they can re-build along the lines of Chester FC. After all we do need teams to play against, you know.
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Post by SouthStandShrew on Jun 11, 2014 8:41:17 GMT 1
Like a dieing dog... Best put it down.
Tho personally won't shed any tears.
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Post by Minormorris64 on Jun 11, 2014 8:47:54 GMT 1
There you go again ! I stand by the statement about 99% of the Hereford fans I have encountered. Where you there at the time ? Can you dissuade me that that view is wrong ? Poor form in your opinion only. Fans of all clubs- whatever their standing in the English game- will have their view as to the current situation at HUFC, personally I couldn't give a toss as to their demise. I would rather have them replaced by a progressive, sustainable and manageable club than see - and endure- the annual soap opera that has been the case for years. Some Hereford fans will mourn their demise. English football won't. " Poor form in your opinion only" Actually, your statement is poor form in my opinion too, so you are wrong there. " Some Hereford fans will mourn their demise. English football won't" So, you are a spokesman for the whole of English football now? Are you sure that the 'arrogant tossers' you speak of aren't something you've seen in a mirror whilst shaving? It seems to me that Hereford's demise is the result of financial mismanagement by the owners who followed GT. Quite how much power the fans had in affecting this I'm not sure? Oh, and as for the missing 2,500 fans. Can someone tell me the last time Hereford averaged over 4,000 for a league season. IMO they have always been a small club, but it has been implied that the supporters have suddenly disappeared in the hour of need, although from what I can find the level of support has been gradually falling since GT left (e.g. average att 2009-10 = 2,109 (League 2)). Personally, I wish their supporters all the best and hope they can re-build along the lines of Chester FC. After all we do need teams to play against, you know. Lets not get too high & mighty about how wonderful everything is at STFC and the sad demise of HUFC, the boot has been on the other foot in the past, for a start they reached Division 2 before Shrewsbury did, only up there for a season but they did. On the subject of attendances Season 1972-73 HUFC averaged 8917 and were 48th highest in the FL, Shrewsbury averaged 3004 and were 83rd Season 1973-74 HUFC averaged 8040 and were 49th highest in the FL, Shrewsbury averaged 2502 and were 86th Season 1974-75 HUFC averaged 7230 and were 54th highest in the FL, Shrewsbury averaged 4125 and were 75th Season 1975-76 HUFC averaged 8186 and were 46th highest in the FL, Shrewsbury averaged 4652 and were 69th Season 1976-77 HUFC averaged 7240 and were 51st highest in the FL, Shrewsbury averaged 4974 and were 70th Season 1977-78 HUFC averaged 4900 and were 65th highest in the FL, Shrewsbury averaged 3378 and were 80th Season 1978-79 HUFC averaged 3369 and were 79th highest in the FL, Shrewsbury (League Winning Season) averaged 6099, 58th So like I say things change, but lets not get too holier than thou.
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Post by bobbytheblock19er on Jun 11, 2014 11:06:14 GMT 1
" Poor form in your opinion only" Actually, your statement is poor form in my opinion too, so you are wrong there. " Some Hereford fans will mourn their demise. English football won't" So, you are a spokesman for the whole of English football now? Are you sure that the 'arrogant tossers' you speak of aren't something you've seen in a mirror whilst shaving? It seems to me that Hereford's demise is the result of financial mismanagement by the owners who followed GT. Quite how much power the fans had in affecting this I'm not sure? Oh, and as for the missing 2,500 fans. Can someone tell me the last time Hereford averaged over 4,000 for a league season. IMO they have always been a small club, but it has been implied that the supporters have suddenly disappeared in the hour of need, although from what I can find the level of support has been gradually falling since GT left (e.g. average att 2009-10 = 2,109 (League 2)). Personally, I wish their supporters all the best and hope they can re-build along the lines of Chester FC. After all we do need teams to play against, you know. Lets not get too high & mighty about how wonderful everything is at STFC and the sad demise of HUFC, the boot has been on the other foot in the past, for a start they reached Division 2 before Shrewsbury did, only up there for a season but they did. On the subject of attendances Season 1972-73 HUFC averaged 8917 and were 48th highest in the FL, Shrewsbury averaged 3004 and were 83rd Season 1973-74 HUFC averaged 8040 and were 49th highest in the FL, Shrewsbury averaged 2502 and were 86th Season 1974-75 HUFC averaged 7230 and were 54th highest in the FL, Shrewsbury averaged 4125 and were 75th Season 1975-76 HUFC averaged 8186 and were 46th highest in the FL, Shrewsbury averaged 4652 and were 69th Season 1976-77 HUFC averaged 7240 and were 51st highest in the FL, Shrewsbury averaged 4974 and were 70th Season 1977-78 HUFC averaged 4900 and were 65th highest in the FL, Shrewsbury averaged 3378 and were 80th Season 1978-79 HUFC averaged 3369 and were 79th highest in the FL, Shrewsbury (League Winning Season) averaged 6099, 58th So like I say things change, but lets not get too holier than thou. 2014/2015 shrewsbury town league 2 hereford united R.I.P
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2014 12:35:43 GMT 1
Lets not get too high & mighty about how wonderful everything is at STFC and the sad demise of HUFC, the boot has been on the other foot in the past, for a start they reached Division 2 before Shrewsbury did, only up there for a season but they did. On the subject of attendances Season 1972-73 HUFC averaged 8917 and were 48th highest in the FL, Shrewsbury averaged 3004 and were 83rd Season 1973-74 HUFC averaged 8040 and were 49th highest in the FL, Shrewsbury averaged 2502 and were 86th Season 1974-75 HUFC averaged 7230 and were 54th highest in the FL, Shrewsbury averaged 4125 and were 75th Season 1975-76 HUFC averaged 8186 and were 46th highest in the FL, Shrewsbury averaged 4652 and were 69th Season 1976-77 HUFC averaged 7240 and were 51st highest in the FL, Shrewsbury averaged 4974 and were 70th Season 1977-78 HUFC averaged 4900 and were 65th highest in the FL, Shrewsbury averaged 3378 and were 80th Season 1978-79 HUFC averaged 3369 and were 79th highest in the FL, Shrewsbury (League Winning Season) averaged 6099, 58th So like I say things change, but lets not get too holier than thou. I wondered what you so long, normally the first opportunity to defend another club against STFC fans you will be there. When you can try and make STFC look inferior then your even quicker. Can I ask when has the boot been on the other foot? We have had financial problems in the past but as far as Im aware we have never gone into administration, had a CVA or been expelled from a league due to financial mis-management. Im not sure what relevant them having higher gates than us 40 years ago has on this thread? Its quite obvious that Hereford have been screwed over by their previous owner and their new owner seems to have continued that, unfortuante for them and I do have sympathy for fans who will feel helpless seeing their club destroyed. I also have sympathy for players & staff who havent been paid plus all the local businesess who will find themselves out of pocket. What I wont have is sympathy for is fans who mocked everything to do with STFC and if it were roles reversed would be p!ssing themselves at our demise. And generally we have a ridicuously nice fanbase, if we were unfortunate enough to be in this position then some fans of some clubs would be on here commiserating and offering advice but you can guarantee there would be plenty of fans from the likes of Telford & Hereford who would be putting the boot in. When Telford went bust some of their fans said to me they couldnt believe how supportive we had been generally and no way on earther would it be the same if it were us in that position. Hereford are a club where some of their fans hate us with a passion and have laughed at our expense for multiple reasons over the past few years particularly around the financial aspect of our club , how can you not have a wry smile at how things have turned out for them in light of that.
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Post by Mediolanum Shrew on Jun 11, 2014 15:12:50 GMT 1
Rob I take it your comments that the Hereford trust have been as much use as a wet lettuce is an informed opinion. Perhaps the 'wet lettuce's' are the 2500 fans you refer to who did nothing. I ran the Hereford Election committee and Colin and I attended their trust open meeting and have to say we were made extremely welcome by a group of supporters passionate about their club and fearful of the situation they found their club in. One supporter even stepped forward and made a substantial donation +1K to the trust. I think your Wet Lettuce comment is out of order and misplaced on this occasion. Roger Just to echo Roger here. Hereford's Trust have done amazing work in pretty crippling circumstances. They were derided from many quarters (including other supporters bodies at Edgar Street). They are the only possible show in town, whether as an AFC or trying to save the debt ridden club. They have had an offer on the table to buy the club which the current owners haven't even acknowledged. The current owners have quite literally b$%%sh^tted their way through with promise after promise, after promise. Good luck to the Hereford Trust. Read more at www.hufctrust.co.uk #stopcluelessclownsrunningourcommunityfootballclubsintotheground
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Post by Dale on Jun 11, 2014 16:47:35 GMT 1
I can see a similar conclusion with Hereford as to what happened at Northwich, where the supporters formed their own club despite the existing club still going.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2014 18:54:48 GMT 1
Latest bit of comedy the new owner has ALREADY asked about moving the Edgar St leases to his own company. The council is owed about 18mths rent and are on a pretty ruthless spree of cuts, plus its hardly football friendly and many locals would like to see ES demolished in favour of housing to fit in with the new shopping area next door. But dont worry says a local councillor there is a Covenant in place at ES......and we all now Covenant's can NEVER be moved
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Post by Dale on Jun 11, 2014 20:23:34 GMT 1
Apparently Stephen Vaughan is involved in the new owner Tommy Agombar's 'consortium' and the new 'director of football' Mark Ellis (some Sunday League pub team coach from London apparently but claims to have worked for Arsenal) brought over some trialists from the capital for training today and will play in a friendly against Pegasus on Saturday... the trialists arrived in Hereford last night and slept on camp beds in the rooms underneath the main stand... you couldn't make it up!!
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Post by ceejay75 on Jun 11, 2014 20:25:25 GMT 1
Not sheding any tears over Hairyfoot, or the Chester's , Wrexham's of this footy world. If the shoe was on the other foot do you think they would sympathise about us? Next to no chance, and you can bet they all will be laughing their heads off about our misfortune over what has transpired during 2013/2014.
Hereford Utd are now expelled from the conference, so be it.
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Post by northwestman on Jun 11, 2014 20:45:03 GMT 1
Yes. According to a poster on Bulls Banter Vaughan is putting up the capital to start building projects.
A Birmingham based Company dealing in short term lets/student accommodation had a meeting with a certain Mr S. Vaughan who had been negotiating with various building firms about a new project in Hereford. Vaughan's name was in the visitors book..the next name in the book being Tommy Agombar!
Another poster claims to have spotted a car with personalised plates 'SJV' at HUFC's ground.
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Post by DiglisShrew on Jun 12, 2014 0:15:36 GMT 1
Latest bit of comedy the new owner has ALREADY asked about moving the Edgar St leases to his own company. The council is owed about 18mths rent and are on a pretty ruthless spree of cuts, plus its hardly football friendly and many locals would like to see ES demolished in favour of housing to fit in with the new shopping area next door. But dont worry says a local councillor there is a Covenant in place at ES......and we all now Covenant's can NEVER be moved
The only thing that this bloody Hereford council isn't cutting round here are the grass verges !!!!
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Post by owdlad on Jun 12, 2014 0:50:33 GMT 1
Picked this up from Bulls Banter. C2 Recruitment, one of the club's major sponsors, has announced it is to terminate it's sponsorship of the club with immediate effect
"As a main sponsor of Hereford United Football Club, C2 Recruitment has decided to terminate it's official sponsorship with immediate effect. We have been very disappointed with poor decisions the club has made which ultimately has led to their expulsion from the Football Conference delivering a huge hammer blow to the city of Hereford and it’s people. We are also deeply concerned about the lack of corporate responsibility the club has shown towards its playing and non playing staff.
C2 Recruitment is extremely focussed on delivering the highest possible levels of care to our valued employees and as a business we simply cannot and will not be associated with the clubs hierarchy who have failed repeatedly to pay its employees their salaries. This is morally wrong and deeply disturbing.
As a business we would like to place on record that we do however fully support a football trust owned by the people that really do matter in all of this, the supporters of this proud and wonderful club."
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Post by DiglisShrew on Jun 12, 2014 0:52:35 GMT 1
Shrewsbury based sponsor sees sense at last !!
C2 Recruitment, one of the club's major sponsors, has announced it is to terminate it's sponsorship of the club with immediate effect.
The company over the back of shirt sponsorship, and other 'main sponsor' entitlements two years ago. A company statement reads:
"As a main sponsor of Hereford United Football Club, C2 Recruitment has decided to terminate it's official sponsorship with immediate effect. We have been very disappointed with poor decisions the club has made which ultimately has led to their expulsion from the Football Conference delivering a huge hammer blow to the city of Hereford and it’s people. We are also deeply concerned about the lack of corporate responsibility the club has shown towards its playing and non playing staff.
C2 Recruitment is extremely focussed on delivering the highest possible levels of care to our valued employees and as a business we simply cannot and will not be associated with the clubs hierarchy who have failed repeatedly to pay its employees their salaries. This is morally wrong and deeply disturbing.
As a business we would like to place on record that we do however fully support a football trust owned by the people that really do matter in all of this, the supporters of this proud and wonderful club."
C2 Recruitment Ltd.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2014 7:09:56 GMT 1
Out of interest does anyone know or has it been stated how much the HUST actually has in its fund or raised.
Also interesting comment I heard from a business contact was that in the time Keyte has been a director at Hereford he has personally put 600,000 of his own money into their club but is now down to his last pennies.
Speaking to another Hereford fan who I see on the train to Brum, he travelled from Telford and went to the evening at HUFC last night to hear Chris Mills and his comment was that you could tell the trust had no professional leadership and the fan base is fragmented into groups. The trust want the club to start again from fresh because that is the only way to clear debts as they cannot pay it off but that means dropping to the bottom of the pyramid. A significant proportion of Hereford fans want the club to find a way to pay off its creditors and start in the Southern league but to force the current board out and the Trust to take over. It seems the Trust do not have sufficient pledges to do this or the support from enough of HU fan base for a complete break away.
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Post by northwestman on Jun 12, 2014 7:10:22 GMT 1
There is a regular contributor to Bulls Banter called 'burslembull'.
Some people really do get dealt a bad hand in life don't they?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2014 7:14:43 GMT 1
Latest bit of comedy the new owner has ALREADY asked about moving the Edgar St leases to his own company. The council is owed about 18mths rent and are on a pretty ruthless spree of cuts, plus its hardly football friendly and many locals would like to see ES demolished in favour of housing to fit in with the new shopping area next door. But dont worry says a local councillor there is a Covenant in place at ES......and we all now Covenant's can NEVER be moved
The only thing that this bloody Hereford council isn't cutting round here are the grass verges !!!!
Don't start me!!!!!!!! Backwards town with backward people!
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Post by siabod on Jun 12, 2014 10:01:35 GMT 1
A certain Mr Vaughan is being mentioned more and more as Tommy's partner in this takeover.
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Post by DiglisShrew on Jun 12, 2014 10:25:24 GMT 1
Out of interest does anyone know or has it been stated how much the HUST actually has in its fund or raised. Also interesting comment I heard from a business contact was that in the time Keyte has been a director at Hereford he has personally put 600,000 of his own money into their club but is now down to his last pennies. Speaking to another Hereford fan who I see on the train to Brum, he travelled from Telford and went to the evening at HUFC last night to hear Chris Mills and his comment was that you could tell the trust had no professional leadership and the fan base is fragmented into groups. The trust want the club to start again from fresh because that is the only way to clear debts as they cannot pay it off but that means dropping to the bottom of the pyramid. A significant proportion of Hereford fans want the club to find a way to pay off its creditors and start in the Southern league but to force the current board out and the Trust to take over. It seems the Trust do not have sufficient pledges to do this or the support from enough of HU fan base for a complete break away. Rob
Is suggest you contact the HUST guys yourself via their website if you want accurate information.
I can assure you that these guys (and lasses) are very professional but if anything naive in their dealings with Mr Keyte. Additionally , it is no secret that they had sufficient firm pledges to have settled all (known) debts had DK taken their offer. They would certainly still been in the Conference structure.
True that the fan base is fragmented (a little like ours perhaps) but that was carefully manipulated by DK when , on the setting up the Trust, he invited the chairman of the independent supporters group (HUISA) to sit on the HUFC Board.
I understand that the stance of HUST is that rather than co-operate and put money into a club owned by property speculators with chequered histories (Aglomar , Vaughan et al) they'd rather start all over in the knowledge that the football club had a secure future.
There again perhaps you just weren't listening properly as the evening was with Chris Price (not Chris Mills) !!
You seem to have a downer on trusts in general and HUST in particular - maybe a legacy of your tea and tiffin with Roland perhaps ??
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2014 12:16:24 GMT 1
Colin, I don't have a downer with Trusts at all, although they will in most cases eventually become an interim solution. I am just passing on feedback from 2 Hereford United supporters who don't know each other, who are emotional and feel worse "than the day they were relegated from the Football league on the last day v Brighton 19 years ago". Yes Chris Price, don’t know why I wrote Mills???
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Post by DiglisShrew on Jun 12, 2014 12:31:19 GMT 1
Colin, I don't have a downer with Trusts at all, although they will in most cases eventually become an interim solution. I am just passing on feedback from 2 Hereford United supporters who don't know each other, who are emotional and feel worse "than the day they were relegated from the Football league on the last day v Brighton 19 years ago". Yes Chris Price, don’t know why I wrote Mills??? OK , no probs.
Think these two Hereford supporters need to attend the next Trust meeting if they are members and express their concerns . I think it's more likely that they are confusing HUST with HUISA - now they have been a waste of space !!
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Post by Shrewsfan1985 on Jun 12, 2014 12:47:06 GMT 1
The Chester FC chairman Tony Durkin says he feels very sorry for Hereford United fans after his club were reinstated in the Conference Premier.
Hereford, who initially stayed up instead of Chester on a dramatic final day of the season, were expelled from the Football Conference on Tuesday.
Durkin told BBC Radio Merseyside: "It's a dreadful time. We've been there and we know what it's like. It's not nice.
"We wish them all the best in the future but for us it's wonderful news."
Chester City were expelled from the Conference in 2010 and were wound up by the High Court soon afterwards, but subsequently re-formed as Chester FC.
Now the club, who achieved three successive promotions prior to last season, will remain in the top tier of non-league football.
"We're really pleased," Durkin continued. "We have been waiting for quite a few weeks now to hear the outcome, one way or another.
"We're just very pleased that it's gone in our favour. We've got clear water in front of us now, which is great.
"It's such a relief, to put this behind us. We've virtually been on hold since the end of the season, we couldn't even set season ticket prices."
Hereford lost their place in the Conference for failing to pay debts and may now have to play in the Southern League next season.
"Obviously I feel very sorry for Hereford fans," Durkin added.
"Any help we can give to Hereford in supporting rebuilding them, we will be quite happy to help them along."
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2014 12:47:41 GMT 1
The main lesson to take away from this sorry episode is that fans must become united in these circumstances.
It seems to me that there many different places to lay the blame and supporters of Hereford must also look at themselves.
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Post by Mediolanum Shrew on Jun 12, 2014 12:50:47 GMT 1
Shrewsbury based sponsor sees sense at last !!
C2 Recruitment, one of the club's major sponsors, has announced it is to terminate it's sponsorship of the club with immediate effect.
The company over the back of shirt sponsorship, and other 'main sponsor' entitlements two years ago. A company statement reads:
"As a main sponsor of Hereford United Football Club, C2 Recruitment has decided to terminate it's official sponsorship with immediate effect. We have been very disappointed with poor decisions the club has made which ultimately has led to their expulsion from the Football Conference delivering a huge hammer blow to the city of Hereford and it’s people. We are also deeply concerned about the lack of corporate responsibility the club has shown towards its playing and non playing staff.
C2 Recruitment is extremely focussed on delivering the highest possible levels of care to our valued employees and as a business we simply cannot and will not be associated with the clubs hierarchy who have failed repeatedly to pay its employees their salaries. This is morally wrong and deeply disturbing.
As a business we would like to place on record that we do however fully support a football trust owned by the people that really do matter in all of this, the supporters of this proud and wonderful club."
C2 Recruitment Ltd.
Amen brother!!!!
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Post by shrewder on Jun 12, 2014 12:51:15 GMT 1
Looked on Southern League website and they are still deciding whether to admit Hereford.
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