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Post by mikey on Feb 26, 2013 23:36:07 GMT 1
The worst red card decision I have ever seen, we moaned it was a free kick, let alone a yellow. But a red?! GT was clearly fuming, waiting to have a word with the ref at half time. As for the game, I thought Doncaster looked better than us when we had both 10 and 11 men on the pitch, but who knows how we would have fared if we had the right amount of players on the pitch.
I could have stomached the defeat better if we had not lost it the way we did. To equalise and then lose it in injury time was heart breaking, not to mention the teams below us winning.
Tough game against Walsall next, a massive massive local derby now.
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Post by Valerioch on Feb 26, 2013 23:39:02 GMT 1
Just when we get some space, the others all win again!
Ref was naff, the red card decision was a total disgrace
Doncaster were the better team, and like above, I'd rather we hadn't equalised and just lost 1-0, it was gutting, as it has been so many times this season... Just another late goal against in the bank!
Our best players were Weale and Richards imo, Richards can't be blamed for lack of options ahead of him but some people seem to
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Post by Valerioch on Feb 26, 2013 23:40:22 GMT 1
I must add that the defending at 1-1 was just appalling! We were asking for Donny to fire one in and they duly obliged. 10 men or 11, you don't leave 2 on 1's, you don't leave no outlet and you don't defend the 6 yard line.
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Feb 26, 2013 23:44:43 GMT 1
It annoyed me, they had that throw in about 40 yards out, he acted to throw one long and every single one of our players dropped to the six yard box, allowing him to throw it short and put the cross in. I bet he's never threw it further than 5 yards in his life.
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Post by Slackbladder on Feb 27, 2013 0:07:49 GMT 1
Absolutely gutted but have to agree that we brought their winner on ourselves with a bit of naivity from young Gayle, put your foot through it son, get it in the corner, anything other than gifting the ball back to the team with a man advantage. I know that we didn't concede directly from this error but it put us under pressure, which was made worse by the whole "back 8" retreating into the six yard box. I am prepared to give the team the benefit of the doubt because they were probably mentally and physically shot but it is so frustrating.
Would ike to know the refs thinking on the sending off, two feet off the ground, yes, lacked control, yes but how the hell can it be dangerous when there was no chance of him coming into contact with an opponent. I'm sure it looked terrible from the south and north stand but from either side it was clear that no Donny player was put in danger. Having said that I'm not sure the sending off changed the game that much as we had struggled to get into the game.
I have to say, and this is not sour grapes because I think that the better side won tonight, Doncaster were pretty average, bordering on poor. I lost count of the number of times they misdirected passes when under no pressure and most of their decision making in the final third was often suspect. They certainly didn't look like a top if the table team tonight
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Post by The Hooded Claw on Feb 27, 2013 0:12:31 GMT 1
Just seen the "tackle" on SSN. Never a sending off in a million Years. Terrible decision. Salop will surely appeal that one
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Post by horse01 on Feb 27, 2013 0:13:50 GMT 1
Gayle's decision not to just hit the corner when he had possession on halfway, just after we had equalised was naive at best and football suicide at worst. That led to their build up to the goal. Then for Gayle and Morgan to both leave the two Donny wide players free from their throw in was criminal.
I said to my cousin when the celebrations had died down a bit, that there was still time for Donny to nick it- and so it proved!! It is now something like 20 points dropped through conceding late goals this season!!
Baffled by the red card, and their player was in a different postcode to McAllister when he connected with the BALL, and then seemed to tumble over McAllister. There didn't even seem to be any appeals from the Donny players either??
Having said all that, the 'handball' that was given against Summerfield, was surely inside the area?? Though it was debatable at best whether it even was handball??
As for the rest of the game, once again it frustrates the hell out of me how seem to get some forward momentum going, and then the midfield insist on slowing it down with sideways and backwards passing at every opportunity?! AAARRGGHHH!!! We look good when we play at pace-TO FEET, but recently from what I've witnessed, we always let the opposition dictate the pace of the game, and we often end up looking like the away team even when at home. I don't think Eaves is good enough to play long ball to and hold it up, though couldn't fault his work rate tonight. Gayle's positional sense leaves a lot to be desired, and although I realise he is only young and learning his trade, can we really afford him to be learning it with us in the predicament we are currently in?? If that is the case, why not let Goldson learn his trade there instead, because at least at the end of it, Goldson is our player?!!
Weale once again outstanding. My young lad asked me on the way home 'why would you rather have Weale than Neale'?? I replied 'because Chris Neale will guarantee you at least one mistake per game, whereas Cheis Weale will guarantee you at least one worldy per game'!!
Big big game at the weekend now. Let's hope we can rob them of the points again?!
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Post by Fingers on Feb 27, 2013 0:14:48 GMT 1
Doncaster were nothing special - like so many of the other so called 'bigger clubs' they showed why they are at this level.
Poor passing, decision making and shots.
Sending off, looked like a great piece of play to push the ball wide, after viewing it again on TV it looks even better. Cannot be a red card simple as that. There was no other yellow cards in the game but imo there were robust challenges and persistent fouling.
Doncaster players did go to the ref immediately after it happened, think his mind was already made up.
Great display from Weale although some loose kicking, JJ was again immense. Fantastic for us recently. MR also had a good game. Still think Eaves needs to put a shift in - not showing enough for me at present. Is he a 'Berbatov' type player who appears lazy but produces goods? Time will tell. Certainly a GK howler for his goal.
Dogfight continues.
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Post by ShrewsburySTFC on Feb 27, 2013 0:14:52 GMT 1
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Post by The Hooded Claw on Feb 27, 2013 0:17:42 GMT 1
Like I said previously....Never a red card...not even a yellow.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2013 0:19:20 GMT 1
Oh dear oh dear oh dear. Sack the ref.
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Post by Slackbladder on Feb 27, 2013 0:21:39 GMT 1
That looks a much poorer decision now than it did live, not even a foul. Diabolical.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2013 0:26:09 GMT 1
A few people defending the ref were saying "nowadays it doesn't matter if you make contact, it's the intent"
I accept that if you jump in and the opposition player has to jump out out of the way to avoid being clattered then thats intent. But when you get the ball and the opposition player comes jumping in over you from a different angle to the way the tackle was made then I'm not sure how you can deem that intent
Terrible decision
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2013 0:33:18 GMT 1
Doncaster aren't a big club.
They were averaging 1200 a decade ago.
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Post by jamo on Feb 27, 2013 0:41:42 GMT 1
Don't understand the nonsense on here about Doncaster being average or nothing special. Not special compared to United or Real Madrid but in terms of who've been down here this season only Yeovil looked better. I thought Doncaster had pace everywhere, had a clear team plan and had a work rate that was as good as I've seen here all year. Despite the shocking sending off decision we were second best for most of the game. I would be very happy if we shaped up and played like Doncaster did tonight.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2013 0:42:50 GMT 1
Agree with that Jamo
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Post by Pilch on Feb 27, 2013 0:45:25 GMT 1
the sign of a good side
they score a goal then relax if they concede, they nip up and get another quick
beaten tonight by a side that is going up
simple as
outclassed
shame really considering we were somehow level with 90 minutes on the clock
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Post by Liam on Feb 27, 2013 0:48:27 GMT 1
I thought it was a reasonable effort in the circumstances.
Unfortunate, however, that "the circumstances" were the aftermath of a sending off decision that could charitably be described as retarded.
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Feb 27, 2013 0:53:04 GMT 1
Gayle's decision not to just hit the corner when he had possession on halfway, just after we had equalised was naive at best and football suicide at worst. That led to their build up to the goal. Then for Gayle and Morgan to both leave the two Donny wide players free from their throw in was criminal. Gayle got cocky in his own half. Shame really as he had played well. With 90 seconds to go with ten men having just equalised, kick it out of the stadium if you have to. We really did invite trouble onto ourselves.
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Post by MidWalesShrew on Feb 27, 2013 0:55:05 GMT 1
fu**ing diabolical decision!!!!! If the fa dont overturn this they are a complete joke.
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Post by jamo on Feb 27, 2013 0:57:01 GMT 1
Gayle got cocky in his own half. Shame really as he had played well. With 90 seconds to go with ten men having just equalised, kick it out of the stadium if you have to. We really did invite trouble onto ourselves. Agreed, but win as a team, lose as a team ! If Morgan had done more to stop the cross- which he should have done- then we would have secured a famous point.
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Feb 27, 2013 1:06:26 GMT 1
Not even a yellow, not even a foul. Won the ball well before the Donny player tried to play it. Absolute joke referee - get back to sunday league football you fool
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Feb 27, 2013 1:11:48 GMT 1
It's the whole "two footed" thing though isn't it. That can be the only possible reason.
I agree it is a stupid decision BTW. But i can juts see how it has been given.
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Post by shrewinjapan on Feb 27, 2013 1:13:31 GMT 1
Sorry but to me that looks a crazy challenge to me from that video. Throwing yourself two-footed down into the ball like that is clearly reckless - as it happened the Doncaster player didn't go for the ball but if he had slid in along the ground then Macca could well have broken his leg. There's no chance it'll get overturned. A lot of people looking at this through blue and amber specs imho.
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Feb 27, 2013 1:15:29 GMT 1
Sorry but to me that looks a crazy challenge to me from that video. Throwing yourself two-footed down into the ball like that is clearly reckless - as it happened the Doncaster player didn't go for the ball but if he had slid in along the ground then Macca could well have broken his leg. There's no chance it'll get overturned. A lot of people looking at this through blue and amber specs imho. I am still not entirely sure why he had the need to lunge at it like that?
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Post by shrewinjapan on Feb 27, 2013 1:18:19 GMT 1
Sorry but to me that looks a crazy challenge to me from that video. Throwing yourself two-footed down into the ball like that is clearly reckless - as it happened the Doncaster player didn't go for the ball but if he had slid in along the ground then Macca could well have broken his leg. There's no chance it'll get overturned. A lot of people looking at this through blue and amber specs imho. I am still not entirely sure why he had the need to lunge at it like that? Exactly. A crazy lunge. Watch that once, at speed, without bias as if you are a ref and you'd be reaching for your red card in an instant.
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Post by MidWalesShrew on Feb 27, 2013 1:20:05 GMT 1
Not a chance.
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Post by mrbunny on Feb 27, 2013 1:20:41 GMT 1
No real complaint, that was a crazy lunge. Not like others haven't been sent off for similar tackles is it?
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Post by stfcfan87 on Feb 27, 2013 1:25:35 GMT 1
A few people defending the ref were saying "nowadays it doesn't matter if you make contact, it's the intent" I accept that if you jump in and the opposition player has to jump out out of the way to avoid being clattered then thats intent. But when you get the ball and the opposition player comes jumping in over you from a different angle to the way the tackle was made then I'm not sure how you can deem that intent Terrible decision Yep this I agree with. He's coming in from the side too, not head on, that makes a difference
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Post by shrewswolf on Feb 27, 2013 1:26:06 GMT 1
Sorry but to me that looks a crazy challenge to me from that video. Throwing yourself two-footed down into the ball like that is clearly reckless - as it happened the Doncaster player didn't go for the ball but if he had slid in along the ground then Macca could well have broken his leg. There's no chance it'll get overturned. A lot of people looking at this through blue and amber specs imho. You don't get sent off for tackling the ball. If the opponent had slid in, it would be him with the red, as McAllister had easily got there first. A quick search on twitter and you find football fans in Sheffield and Falkirk bemused at the decision. It's poor refereeing. It won't be overturned though, you're right there, but if Kompany's was rescinded (rightly so) then this challenge, not even touching the man, most definitely should be.
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