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Post by Valerioch on Feb 22, 2012 13:52:42 GMT 1
Email sent
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Feb 22, 2012 14:11:23 GMT 1
Rum as it is we've just got to take it on the chin and hope that we at some point get a bit of luck come our way...and it has to sooner rather than later considering the s**t we've had thrown our way...
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Post by Amsterdammer on Feb 22, 2012 14:11:45 GMT 1
If you search Youtube for Shrewsbury Swindon you see a couple of post-match videos posted by Swindon fans. Real contrast between GT and Di Canio made me a bit sick. Not clear why Di Canio was allowed to talk to the ref and shake his hand, but GT was not allowed to thank him by the stewards.
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Post by Valerioch on Feb 22, 2012 14:18:49 GMT 1
If you search Youtube for Shrewsbury Swindon you see a couple of post-match videos posted by Swindon fans. Real contrast between GT and Di Canio made me a bit sick. Not clear why Di Canio was allowed to talk to the ref and shake his hand, but GT was not allowed to thank him by the stewards.
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Feb 22, 2012 14:35:04 GMT 1
Despite GT's anger, he didn't approach the referee, and he stayed stationary in his position. If the referee was intimidated by that then frankly he's a ****.
Di Canio on the other hand could have caused a riot.
One man acted with class and dignity.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Feb 22, 2012 14:40:39 GMT 1
Di Canio on the other hand could have caused a riot. What? Based on that? flip me I know some on here have Di Canio on a par with Hitler and Pol Pot but it's getting daft now. Town fans give out dogs abuse to Di Canio and so you have to expect some back. And what did he do, punch the air and give a little wave. Come on chaps, get a grip FFS...
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Post by SamHarvey on Feb 22, 2012 14:45:06 GMT 1
Di canio pretty much did start a riot. . . yet the stewards stood there and let him, rather then surround him and tell him to go down the tunnel like they did with turner. . . Joke
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Post by Amsterdammer on Feb 22, 2012 14:45:31 GMT 1
I know some on here have Di Canio on a par with Hitler and Pol Pot but it's getting daft now. Town fans give out dogs abuse to Di Canio and so you have to expect some back. And what did he do, punch the air and give a little wave. Come on chaps, get a grip FFS... He's not on a par with those guys, but he's a probably a fan. I also didn't see anything wrong in that vid either other than some crowd pleasing exuberance. Sounds like there was more there though as some say he went up to the Town fans. He didn't seem to move to me.
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Post by SamHarvey on Feb 22, 2012 14:47:24 GMT 1
Di Canio on the other hand could have caused a riot. What? Based on that? naff me I know some on here have Di Canio on a par with Hitler and Pol Pot but it's getting daft now. Town fans give out dogs abuse to Di Canio and so you have to expect some back. And what did he do, punch the air and give a little wave. Come on chaps, get a grip FFS... He was inciting fans. . . footballers and managers get abuse from the crowd all round the country yet don't react in the way he did. . .
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Feb 22, 2012 14:48:11 GMT 1
He's not on a par with those guys, but he's a probably a fan. Touche Dammer, touche...
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Post by windsorjnr on Feb 22, 2012 14:52:14 GMT 1
Its hilarious when players and managers give it back to the fans. I love it when Moshni plays against Salop as its hilarious when he taunts us... Didn't see what Di Canio did there as wrong at all. He's proving to be a good manager and looks like he'll take Swindon straight back up.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2012 14:55:42 GMT 1
they'll probably just fob you off with their general policy on refs and inability to comment on individual cases wah wah waahhhh but good effort nonetheless VB what is their email address? i've tried this one for starters enquiries@football-league.co.uk Thanks for that, just sent off my e-mail and await a reply, more in forlorn hope than anything else.
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Post by shrewsTRUST on Feb 22, 2012 15:04:34 GMT 1
Its hilarious when players and managers give it back to the fans. I love it when Moshni plays against Salop as its hilarious when he taunts us... Didn't see what Di Canio did there as wrong at all. He's proving to be a good manager and looks like he'll take Swindon straight back up. I couldnt really see a problem and whatever a manager does, it isn't a reason to riot, that's your own choice.
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Post by chrispyshrew on Feb 22, 2012 15:10:00 GMT 1
It also needs pointing out that he was miles behind play at the time and his physique would raise questions over his ability to keep up with play. He actually bottled the decision and appeared to be hoping that the lineman would take responsibility for the call, he put the whistle to his mouth! Absolute disgrace, after the Wigglesworth incident beginning to feel that we are cursed. We had a curse put on us when the ground was built, the facts are that a cursed Wrexham crest had been witch doctored! Yes witch doctored. I think we need to bring somebody in to counter act the curse!
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Post by davycrockett on Feb 22, 2012 15:15:55 GMT 1
Surely if Gornell was 'already going down' it was either a free kick, penalty, or a booking for diving - he gave nothing. If the ref was from Wiltshire then it should not be allowed - at one time I thought local refs were not allowed. He bottled it simples! Not defending the ref as i never saw the incident but saying the player was already going down wouldn't result in a booking for diving as players are allowed to loose their footing and fall down which could be what he meant although i do believe he gave Swindon a free kick but for what i can't imagine
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Post by Pilch on Feb 22, 2012 15:51:18 GMT 1
i saw it on sky this morning the trip was outside the box but hey 2 points here 1. a wiltshire ref at swindon nuff said 2. free kick v 10 men chance would have been a fine thing
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Post by saintshrew on Feb 22, 2012 16:37:15 GMT 1
Not the first time that he has officiated in a Swindon match then: "02 Oct 10 League 1 - Dagenham 2:1 Swindon (Fouls Dag 11 Swindon 1)"
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Post by BigBadSagi on Feb 22, 2012 17:22:46 GMT 1
Anyone e-mailing the FL to even suggest this could quite honestly be subject to legal action, as it is a hell of an accusation, and you have no clear proof. Mate, you're a total ninny. Football isn't suited to your namby-pamby attitude and inherent softness. I would suggest you seriously reconsider your interest in the sport. Dr, I have logged in for the first time since November just to comment on how much your comments brighten up my day!!! (sometimes) The Dr doesn't sugar coat his medicine!!!! We used to have a 'we are not worthy' smily face thing on here, I would use it now if we still had it!!!!
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Feb 22, 2012 18:01:30 GMT 1
Do we reckon the referee was advised to wait for Turner to go, or just wet his pants at facing an angry pensioner? Youtube vid from the other side, mostly showing the Town players giving the ref a bollocking, I think James Collins in particular puts his point across very eloquently
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Post by venceremos on Feb 22, 2012 18:59:46 GMT 1
Right... Let's get this straight... Are you seriously suggesting that the ref never gave the penalty because he comes from Wiltshire? Anyone e-mailing the FL to even suggest this could quite honestly be subject to legal action, as it is a hell of an accusation, and you have no clear proof. The ref made a mistake. He didn't not give the penalty on purpose, a mistake, So as opposed to Victorsboots, I would sugest not sending any emails, it would be a waste of time. Maybe should have been done BEFORE the match, but now.... no. Would you be complaining if we never got the penalty but still went on to win? I think not... You've missed the point completely. It's not a question of emailing the FL about the decision, it's about that ref being given the game in the first place. The point is there should be no possibility of any ref being considered anything except entirely neutral. Appointing a local ref was a crass misjudgment. If it had been a meaningless game then no matter, but it wasn't. Of course it won't change last night's outcome. I just hope that, if enough fans create a stir, the FL will take a bit more care about their match appointments in future. Or we could just be angry and do nothing and let it happen again. Is that a better option? It's actually unfair on the ref himself. His impartiality shouldn't be capable of being questioned. There's a reason why you'd never see Howard Webb reffing an England game, or an English team in the Champions' League.
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Post by Dan F on Feb 22, 2012 19:13:07 GMT 1
Which was worse, this or Steve Baines the ex-Sc***horpe player reffing Scunny-Salop way back when?
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Post by spartan on Feb 22, 2012 19:19:38 GMT 1
If the Soccerbase statistics are to be believed ( and I find them pretty reliable) Postman 'Piggy' Malone refereed just 13 games in 2008/9 season in the Blue Square Prem.
FOUR of those were Torquay Home games!
Nothing sinister in the results, but still hard to fathom!
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Post by africanshrew on Feb 22, 2012 19:25:09 GMT 1
Clearly a very poor ref and a 'bottler', but not sure that's got anything to do with where he's from. Apparently he's from Salisbury which is 40 miles away - does that mean Shrews shouldn't have refs from Stoke, Woverhampton, Stafford, Crewe, Birmingham etc? We lost cos of shonky goalkeeping and a dodgy ref, not cos of where he was from. Reckon we forget Tuesday and move on. Let's not turn this into another ready made excuse for failure (Wycombe) but believe that we can still suceed. We're in a cracking position with 15 to go.
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Post by clashcityrocker on Feb 22, 2012 21:49:09 GMT 1
Right... Let's get this straight... Are you seriously suggesting that the ref never gave the penalty because he comes from Wiltshire? Anyone e-mailing the FL to even suggest this could quite honestly be subject to legal action, as it is a hell of an accusation, and you have no clear proof. The ref made a mistake. He didn't not give the penalty on purpose, a mistake, So as opposed to Victorsboots, I would sugest not sending any emails, it would be a waste of time. Maybe should have been done BEFORE the match, but now.... no. Would you be complaining if we never got the penalty but still went on to win? I think not... You've missed the point completely. It's not a question of emailing the FL about the decision, it's about that ref being given the game in the first place. The point is there should be no possibility of any ref being considered anything except entirely neutral. Appointing a local ref was a crass misjudgment. If it had been a meaningless game then no matter, but it wasn't. Of course it won't change last night's outcome. I just hope that, if enough fans create a stir, the FL will take a bit more care about their match appointments in future. Or we could just be angry and do nothing and let it happen again. Is that a better option? It's actually unfair on the ref himself. His impartiality shouldn't be capable of being questioned. There's a reason why you'd never see Howard Webb reffing an England game, or an English team in the Champions' League. Point taken. My mistake, sorry about that. The decision to use a ref based in the same county is wrong, and it put that ref in a difficult position. Nothing to do with the penalty decision... Apologies.
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Post by The Black Fingernail on Feb 22, 2012 22:13:44 GMT 1
Clearly a very poor ref and a 'bottler', but not sure that's got anything to do with where he's from. Apparently he's from Salisbury which is 40 miles away - does that mean Shrews shouldn't have refs from Stoke, Woverhampton, Stafford, Crewe, Birmingham etc? We lost cos of shonky goalkeeping and a dodgy ref, not cos of where he was from. Reckon we forget Tuesday and move on. Let's not turn this into another ready made excuse for failure (Wycombe) but believe that we can still suceed. We're in a cracking position with 15 to go. The distance he lives from particular football grounds is not the issue. The point is he lives in Wiltshire. Wiltshire's FA Headquarters is in Swindon and he, as a high ranking referee in that county, will no doubt be known and recognised in those quarters. Has Rob Lewis or any other Shropshire based referee ever reffed Shrewsbury in anything other than County Cup or friendly matches?
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Post by shrewsace on Feb 22, 2012 22:29:48 GMT 1
He should be banned from reffing for life, he's obviously far more suited to a career at Evian.
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Post by africanshrew on Feb 22, 2012 22:59:16 GMT 1
Clearly a very poor ref and a 'bottler', but not sure that's got anything to do with where he's from. Apparently he's from Salisbury which is 40 miles away - does that mean Shrews shouldn't have refs from Stoke, Woverhampton, Stafford, Crewe, Birmingham etc? We lost cos of shonky goalkeeping and a dodgy ref, not cos of where he was from. Reckon we forget Tuesday and move on. Let's not turn this into another ready made excuse for failure (Wycombe) but believe that we can still suceed. We're in a cracking position with 15 to go. The distance he lives from particular football grounds is not the issue. The point is he lives in Wiltshire. Wiltshire's FA Headquarters is in Swindon and he, as a high ranking referee in that county, will no doubt be known and recognised in those quarters. Has Rob Lewis or any other Shropshire based referee ever reffed Shrewsbury in anything other than County Cup or friendly matches? Really good point, hadn't thought of it that way.
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Post by venceremos on Feb 23, 2012 19:31:36 GMT 1
Point taken. My mistake, sorry about that. The decision to use a ref based in the same county is wrong, and it put that ref in a difficult position. Nothing to do with the penalty decision... Apologies. Very civil - tip my hat to you, sir, you're a gent.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2012 0:22:02 GMT 1
i emailed after wycombe and nowt of a reply. Waste of time.
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Post by venceremos on Feb 24, 2012 14:26:15 GMT 1
i emailed after wycombe and nowt of a reply. Waste of time. Oh, I don't know. Have we seen Linington or Wigglesworth at a Shrews game since?
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