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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2011 23:14:28 GMT 1
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Post by markglasgow on Aug 25, 2011 23:26:30 GMT 1
Lionel has always maintained he's premiership quality. Never always showed it of course!
As article says we'd have to take whatever was offered as he's off in the summer. No way GT would stand in his way anyway. Would it be the best move for the lad? He's spent too much time on the bench and in the stands at higher league clubs and you would have to fear that his first team opportunities in the prem would be limited and he would be spend his Saturday's kicking his heels again.
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Post by starlight on Aug 25, 2011 23:48:54 GMT 1
Ainsworth has the pace and skill to be a premiership player, got a good shot on him also. If he does go hope we get a decent fee for him.
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Post by Optimistic Shrew on Aug 25, 2011 23:53:47 GMT 1
We should hold out for at least £200k imo if we were to sell him. Don't forget Huddersfield get a % sell on fee.
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Post by QuorndonShrew on Aug 26, 2011 0:10:10 GMT 1
why is it that other highly rated players at this level like Ryan Lowe or Adam Le Fondre ply their trade at their respected clubs for a good couple of years before they are linked with moves to bigger clubs but Town players have 3 and a half decent games and suddenly they're the premier league/championship/SPL's most wanted. It takes the proverbial.
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Post by jamo on Aug 26, 2011 7:33:16 GMT 1
Tony Pullis isn't that stupid.
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Post by andygroundo on Aug 26, 2011 8:44:37 GMT 1
Nothing to do with Stoke playing Swansea in a few weeks time?
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Post by SouthStandShrew on Aug 26, 2011 8:48:48 GMT 1
'A bargain price'
I really hope the club ain't stupid enough to cash in on a petty amount.
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Post by DaveG on Aug 26, 2011 9:05:40 GMT 1
Nothing to do with Stoke playing Swansea in a few weeks time? I'm always very sceptical of these "stories", but it did occur to me on Tuesday when I saw Pulis that it was strange for him to come and watch upcoming opponents who would be playing (as it turned out) 5 of the players he's likely to face. Swansea had declared early they would be playing fringe players so it's possible there is a modicum of truth in the story. There is no doubt that Ainsworth at his best is capable of playing at a much higher level. Unfortunately he would need to do it for more than 40 mins per game and more than 1 game in 3.
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Post by len on Aug 26, 2011 9:27:54 GMT 1
Wouldn't bother me if he left. He clearly has a lot of talent but how often do we see it? I'd rather see someone who is more consistant than Lionel. Don't think he's good enough for Stoke though.
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Post by El Huracán!!!! on Aug 26, 2011 9:46:38 GMT 1
If we were ever to move a player on whos in this much form (of his life) we would be raging normally, buts its a tricky situation.
I really like Lionel as a player got everything at this levle to be a real danger
But the fact that hes on a free at the end of the season it a big factor, why not cash in move him up a few leves and wack in a big sell on fee (as well as say50-100k)
Add to that that we have John Taylor already to take over and who is also one of the better right wingers in League two, and on balance we could just about afford to let him go.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2011 9:50:50 GMT 1
Our best player so far this season. An entertainer, and a potential match winner. Inconsistent? Of course he is, the guy's a winger playing for a fourth division side. I'd be dissapointed to see him leave.
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Aug 26, 2011 9:52:41 GMT 1
If Turner wants to keep him and sees him as an integral part of the team then I'd be disapointed should he leave. Looking at the players with contracts expiring at the end of the season, I hope we get it right, there's some good players there.
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Post by len on Aug 26, 2011 9:56:00 GMT 1
Who's contracts are up?
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Post by jonbond on Aug 26, 2011 10:06:05 GMT 1
It always makes me chuckle when people say Ainsworth is good but needs to be more consistent, not just do it for 40 mins. Fact is if he did it for 90 mins regularly he would be playing in the prem, hes that good. The fcat he does it for half a game sometimes makes him a league 2 player albeit a very good one.
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Aug 26, 2011 10:26:59 GMT 1
Sharps, Wroe, Ainsworth, Bradshaw, Leslie, Smith, McAllister, Cansdell-Sherriff, Neal off the top of my head
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Post by filmcrewshrew on Aug 26, 2011 10:31:42 GMT 1
It always makes me chuckle when people say Ainsworth is good but needs to be more consistent, not just do it for 40 mins. Fact is if he did it for 90 mins regularly he would be playing in the prem, hes that good. The fcat he does it for half a game sometimes makes him a league 2 player albeit a very good one. Prem no, championship yes. All about opinions i guess. I would be very surprised if Pulis wanted Ainsworth, he was one of the poorer players on Tuesday night and I think Pulis would of been more interested in Mark Wright by the end of the game. As has already been said the reason Lionel didn't make at Watford and Huddersfield is the inconsistentancy, if/when he gets it then a move up the divisions will happen but its not at the moment, games like Lincoln last season and Derby this are flashes of brilliance, Tuesday was the norm.
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Post by Ned on Aug 26, 2011 11:07:47 GMT 1
Is this a joke?
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Post by Fingers on Aug 26, 2011 11:12:15 GMT 1
No chance.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2011 11:52:52 GMT 1
The issues of consistency and confidence always seem to come up with Ainsworth. Both were lacking last season, however, looking at his career to date, I have always thought that any team who get nearly 40 games from him in a season would have a very good player on their hands. Consistency for me at this level means playing well in most matches but with the run he's on at the moment (one of our best players in most matches) it's not surprising there is speculation and interest.
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Post by Worthingshrew on Aug 26, 2011 12:14:43 GMT 1
wingers are always inconsistent - its goes with the job - look at Walcott & Lennon to see inconsistent wingers even at the top level. My only gripe is that he drifts out of games for long periods and doesn't always seem to be looking for the ball at such times. I'd be very surprised if Stoke want him, but if they do should get a decent fee hopefully. I wouldn't lose too much sleep if he went though.
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Post by tvor on Aug 26, 2011 12:18:21 GMT 1
Our best player so far this season. An entertainer, and a potential match winner. Inconsistent? Of course he is, the guy's a winger playing for a fourth division side. I'd be dissapointed to see him leave. Far too much common sense from yourself as usual. It would be very disappointing to see him leave and he'd be very difficult to replace in terms of a player with comparable ability at this level.
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Post by venceremos on Aug 26, 2011 13:34:29 GMT 1
Prem no, championship yes. All about opinions i guess. Did anyone really expect to see Holt and Tierney in the Premier League? Or Davies in the Championship come to that? Maybe some of our players are better than we think. Or maybe the top leagues aren't all they're cracked up to be! Certainly prefer to keep Ainsworth but if he did go I'd hope for a decent fee and maybe a loan back for the season.
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Post by constantinople on Aug 26, 2011 13:40:38 GMT 1
Stranger things have happened, especially with Stoke in the Europa League and a bit short on wingers (I think) for potentially a 50-plus game season.
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Post by ssshrew on Aug 26, 2011 13:45:22 GMT 1
It would be a shame to see him go but we can never begrudge one of our players going to a higher division if the opportunity comes - a fee for us, of course, is the added bonus!
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Post by shrew54 on Aug 26, 2011 14:33:32 GMT 1
Wouldn't bother me if he left. He clearly has a lot of talent but how often do we see it? I'd rather see someone who is more consistant than Lionel. Don't think he's good enough for Stoke though. It would bother me! He's been on fire since the start of the season, and if we want to get promoted, which I think most people do, we need to keep hold of our better players, at least until the next transfer window. We could offer him an extension to his contract, but that's not the STFC way I don't understand how some fans can be so blasé about losing our better players
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Post by lionshrew on Aug 26, 2011 17:19:21 GMT 1
On Sky Sports news just Stoke have made just a bid for Shaun Wright-Phillips. Don't see Pulis buying Ainsworth especially if he gets SWP. Link------> Sky Sports
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Post by jonbond on Aug 26, 2011 18:49:59 GMT 1
Not as big a difference as youd think between LA and SWP, and the former would be about 50 grand a week cheaper
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2011 19:01:46 GMT 1
Personally I dont believe it for a minute as dont think he is premiership quality. However I think he isnt Pullis's type of player anyway as he prefers a worker, someone who can regularly perform and is not a luxury. Thats one of the reasons he got rid of Tuncay who Stoke fans loved.
However I do know that Lionel is a potential matchwinner and if he gets some decent performances under his belt then higher clubs will come flocking. For that reason its important we tie him down to a new contract, rather than let it run and have the same problems we have had in recent seasons
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Post by markglasgow on Aug 26, 2011 21:58:05 GMT 1
If Stoke offered £100k and Lionel £3k per week it's a done deal.
Peanuts for Pulis who will have a decent 4/5th choice winger who he can use in the cups (Carling/FA/Europa) when he needs to rotate heavily.
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