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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2011 10:30:28 GMT 1
Pilch, Its perception, you are percieved a trouble maker, same as I did, when I put up a post about Roland, which If you want to get personal, I signed up under a different name, to protect my brother who was an employee of the club at the time, this should have remained confidential but you or another unnamed moderator choose to let the club know who it was!! The reason you are percieved a trouble maker is because you are one of the first to have a dig at anythin the club do. My post about Roland has cost my business money because I have something they want, but will not use it because of me and that post. I do not moan about it as I did it!! As to my loyalty, not only have I contacted the club about working for free, I have also followed it through, I have put my money where my mouth is, and will continue to do so. You drew the line at £10 for last nights game, but it cost more than that so could not go, fair do's now lets stop with the sob stories!! Sob stories ? I moan in favour of common sense I moaned about the gate we needed and got I moaned about the state of the path on oteley road which got done I moaned about the state of the seats and they are approaching the issue I moaned about your thuggish steward which you wanted kept private I moan about the position pod the away fans, even the club know it's wrong I moan about the prices, hey not getting anywhere there but I'm not on my own judging by last nights gate mate, this is 2011, not some pre Victorian era All hail for Pilch the saviour!! Thuggish Steward was A, not mine, and B was being delt with by the club so suggested it was best not to highlight as it would hamper the club, C any more suggestion that it was a member of my company, then I will speak to the company lawyer!! There are ways to moan about something, rather than stick the boot in on a public forum, try knocking on the door and discussing the issues. You get far more with sugar than you do with salt!!
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Post by shrewsace on Aug 24, 2011 11:00:24 GMT 1
Absolutely loved last night, McCallister and Gornell showed real class and it was almost like an old Gay Meadow night match atmosphere.
That said, if it hadn't been for the fact I'm gonna have to give the Swindon game a miss, I may well have opted not to go.
I think there should have been some kind of 'buy tickets for Crewe and Swindon and get a few quid knocked off the Swansea game' promotion.
Season ticket holders already make a saving (particularly the early-birds) and this would be a great way of getting a few of our more casual supporters to turn up.
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Post by Pilch on Aug 24, 2011 11:03:02 GMT 1
Apology for the steward thing at least I'll get legal aid ;-)
the fact is your wouldn't even have posted had town got hammered last night had I been in charge I'd have made it £12 and had other offers None of which would have suited me anyway
The trouble is this message board is taken too seriously at times
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Post by mattmw on Aug 24, 2011 11:23:39 GMT 1
Certainly can't knock the entertainment value of the league cup - lots of goals across the games last night, but still think the competition is a shadow of it's former self
Last night four premier league sides went out of the competition having put out weakened sides. more will probably follow tonight and attendances across the board were low. Think fans are catching onto the fact that football is becoming very costly and don't see the league cup as a priority for spending their cash, especially when premier league sides make 9 changes to their first team, as Swansea did last night
Worryingly this means I agree with Neil Warnock though so I may have to review my opinion of the cup!
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Post by stfcfan87 on Aug 24, 2011 11:31:09 GMT 1
Good performance, but Swansea had only Williams, Tate and Graham as players that have started so far this season. Lita and Allen have appeared as subs, but Fulham had a strong bench.
I do think again the points regarding pricing are valid - the crewe game was down on attendance, so was swansea, and i'd guess swindon will be too - just because there's 3 games in a week. A group pricing deal for all three could have resulted in better attendances.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Aug 24, 2011 11:31:30 GMT 1
True that about the top sides changing things about. Would we have beaten a full strength Swansea side? Maybe. But who cares?!?! We won and we’ve now got a third round tie to play. And who cares if we get another top flight side and they put out the reserves, just gives us a better chance to progress again. Lots of talk about the competition being devalued but do Town fans really think that his morning? I certainly don't. We're in the third round of a cup competition with a third round draw to look forward to on the Saturday. Superb stuff…
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Post by Pilch on Aug 24, 2011 11:57:04 GMT 1
then why didn't you go and knock on Rolands door instead of cowardly hiding behind a false name on a public forum ? as i explained, when you registered the name you used your own name as the email for all to see, i didn't realise you had later changed it whitters asked me who xxxxxxx was i quickly read your post and saw nothing wrong with it and told him it was you knowing it would go no further or even thinking it even mattered next thing you are going ballistic as the chairman wants to speak to you, i went mad at whitters thinking he had double crossed me, fact is he hadn't, someone else had passed the info almost directly to the chairman i guess it was ok though for you to hide behind a name thinking the only one who would get any hassle over it was me, now thats annoying
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Post by stockportershrew on Aug 24, 2011 11:57:58 GMT 1
Mixed feelings about the League Cup. I wouldn't particularly miss it if they got rid of it (although getting rid of the JPT would better). That said, cup games have given me some of the best memories of watching the town (moreso with the FA Cup). Manchester City, Aldershot, Wolves, and Everton games all live long in the memory and as lower league supporters they are (were?) the moments that make all the years of drudgery (& defeats at Moss Rose) worthwhile.
The problem with both our cup competitions now is the complete dominance of the premiership above all else. It is clear that many teams in top two divisions (and below) don't take cup competitions seriously. Staying in the premiership is seemingly much more important than winning something. When Warnock says we were never going to win it - so it doesn't matter - that says it all. Yet, surely, the LC is one of the few things QPR have a realistic chance of winning or getting to the final. At the end of their careers, will players remember seasons of finishing 16th in the premiership or would they rather try and win a trophy? (Actually, some are probably more interested in their bank balances and the cars in the garage than the game itself). Nor do I entirely understand the idea of clubs struggling for a whole season to get into the Europa league and then playing reserve teams when they get there.
The cup competitions are dying and I don't think the powers that be have got the will to tackle it.
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Post by Pilch on Aug 24, 2011 12:04:38 GMT 1
Mixed feelings about the League Cup. I wouldn't particularly miss it if they got rid of it (although getting rid of the JPT would better). That said, cup games have given me some of the best memories of watching the town (moreso with the FA Cup). Manchester City, Aldershot, Wolves, and Everton games all live long in the memory and as lower league supporters they are (were?) the moments that make all the years of drudgery (& defeats at Moss Rose) worthwhile. The problem with both our cup competitions now is the complete dominance of the premiership above all else. It is clear that many teams in top two divisions (and below) don't take cup competitions seriously. Staying in the premiership is seemingly much more important than winning something. When Warnock says we were never going to win it - so it doesn't matter - that says it all. Yet, surely, the LC is one of the few things QPR have a realistic chance of winning or getting to the final. At the end of their careers, will players remember seasons of finishing 16th in the premiership or would they rather try and win a trophy? (Actually, some are probably more interested in their bank balances and the cars in the garage than the game itself). Nor do I entirely understand the idea of clubs struggling for a whole season to get into the Europa league and then playing reserve teams when they get there. The cup competitions are dying and I don't think the powers that be have got the will to tackle it. if the league offered 3 points for the start of next season to any team winning the comp having used a full strength side during it, we'd see some big names suddenly appearing doubt if we'd be in the third round draw though and there might be some sorry scores early on now and then its the champions league thats the main problem
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2011 12:09:53 GMT 1
then why didn't you go and knock on Rolands door instead of cowardly hiding behind a false name on a public forum ? as i explained, when you registered the name you used your own name as the email for all to see, i didn't realise you had later changed it whitters asked me who xxxxxxx was i quickly read your post and saw nothing wrong with it and told him it was you knowing it would go no further or even thinking it even mattered next thing you are going ballistic as the chairman wants to speak to you, i went mad at whitters thinking he had double crossed me, fact is he hadn't, someone else had passed the info almost directly to the chairman i guess it was ok though for you to hide behind a name thinking the only one who would get any hassle over it was me, now thats annoying FACTS please, The post was about how I saw things with the club, not moaning about Roland. I went mad, not about the fact that Roland wanted to see me, but that my brother was brought into the Managers office at the time about something that I posted on an independant forum. It was indeed me that suggested to JH at the time that I be given the chance to go in and speak to Roland about what I had put, to which he agreed. Now with your post about you getting stick, well with authority comes responsibility, and if you had have asked me prior to saying who it was, which in my opinion, should be the standard operating proceedure for a moderator, then I would have informed you that I did not want this as public knowledge, I have also stated that any person working for STFC should not be a moderator of this board for the same reasons. For what it is worth, I have also been in and offered a solution for the lighting iissue with path, and even offered to pay for it!!
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Post by SouthStandShrew on Aug 24, 2011 12:11:01 GMT 1
Downie - Are you the ex kit man at the club?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2011 12:12:47 GMT 1
His brother!!
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Post by SouthStandShrew on Aug 24, 2011 12:13:47 GMT 1
If you are going to discuss this in public at least tell us why you were called in to see Roland
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2011 12:19:46 GMT 1
If you are going to discuss this in public at least tell us why you were called in to see Roland Half way through Simmo's time here i basically put up a post in another name, to protect my brother, about how i felt that it was time for the chairman to move on!! provoked a good debate.
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Post by SouthStandShrew on Aug 24, 2011 12:21:04 GMT 1
If you are going to discuss this in public at least tell us why you were called in to see Roland Half way through Simmo's time here i basically put up a post in another name, to protect my brother, about how i felt that it was time for the chairman to move on!! provoked a good debate. I get the feeling these message board is watched upon like hawks at the GM. Is the thread still on here? Very bored at work and could do with a good read.
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Post by Pilch on Aug 24, 2011 12:26:25 GMT 1
If you are going to discuss this in public at least tell us why you were called in to see Roland its still here somewhere, enough has already been dragged up on here today without finding a link as i've said, i wrongly presumed downies email was still on view for all to see, i quickly read the post and thought it was a positive post about the club and thought i was doing downie a credit by associating him with it when you read the posted a bit closer there were some subtle digs in it that i missed, i humbly apologised to paul as it was not my intention to get him into trouble
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2011 14:07:02 GMT 1
Of course anyone who chose not to go last night will feel disapointed.
Personally I didnt go and although Im gutted I felt I made the right decision. It was purely for financial reasons and football is not the be all and end all of my life anymore.
Some people will rightly say that it was my choice not to go which is entirely right and Im not going to moan about anything. All I would say is it would have been nice that the club recognised the fans arent a bottomless pit and would be even nicer that the home turnout last night was a wake up for the power(s) that be, unfortunately I highly doubt it.
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Post by Pilch on Aug 24, 2011 14:25:20 GMT 1
its a bit childish really that some have to appear and post about being loyal and gloating about us having missed a great game WE KNOW reminds me of eddie murphy watch this sketch from 2 mins on ;D
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Post by WindsorShrew on Aug 24, 2011 16:57:16 GMT 1
Back to the issue now that you two children have finished posturing like fighting cocks in a cage.
If those that went enjoyed the game and thought the admission fee valid fine. I didn't (either), as has been stated previously it's about personal choice did I pay £17 for Swansea at home..no. Yet would I pay £17 for Liverpool at home...yes.
The two key factors for me are choice (is it worth it yes or no) and can I afford it (yes or no) basically you need two positives I could only come up with one in this instance.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Aug 24, 2011 17:15:41 GMT 1
its a bit childish really that some have to appear and post about being loyal and gloating about us having missed a great game I picked a bit of that up too. Not too sure why though. It were Swansea City. Swansea City reserves at that. I suspect a few may be a tad miffed to have missed it but I think they’ll soon be over it, more so when the third round draw is made…
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Aug 24, 2011 17:17:25 GMT 1
No one-up-manship from me, but honestly, I don't think there will be a better game at the GM this season.
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