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Post by ShrewsburySTFC on May 18, 2011 13:38:25 GMT 1
If your so adament something is wrong, atleast get the spelling right. It's 'Jefreen Holdings Limited'. It must be legit, they state clearly earlier in the return that 410 shares were transferred from Bickerton on 4th Feb 2010. Must be a spelling mistake somewhere.
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Post by Pilch on May 18, 2011 13:39:43 GMT 1
i'll leave the decision to glyn as to if its reinstated
the club have contacted him and i think its a case that they would rather explain the situation themselves than have all sorts of rumours flying around
as you say its public information so probably best to have it from the horses mouth than guess at bizarre theories
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Post by Amsterdammer on May 18, 2011 13:40:52 GMT 1
Seems pretty clear from that Jalfreen is a family trust of Roland's. It may well be held off shore (not illegal) which is why it is not registered at companies house as it could be in another country's legal system. Doesn't look that fishy if you believe the link above and backs the mods current stance.
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Post by Amsterdammer on May 18, 2011 13:42:34 GMT 1
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Post by spanishwaiter on May 18, 2011 13:42:51 GMT 1
How come no one else has asked the question before Now I'm just guessing but, A disgruntled ex employee who now has a major interest in another club wants do divert attention, Now i may be wrong but the ex employee may have gained inside info whilest working for STFC and has had no need to use it till for example NOW. JUST A GUESS MIND
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Post by cypher on May 18, 2011 13:43:52 GMT 1
Sorry my mistake (on this thread anyway) it should be - JEFREEN HOLDINGS LIMITED - doesnt change anything already posted though as there is no information on Shareholders or directors, of JEFREEN HOLDINGS LIMITED, what other interests does this company have, could it have financial consequences for the club if a secondary interest of the company runs into finacial difficulties???
Ps. CAN WE HAVE THE ORIGINAL THREAD BACK .....PLEASE, there is nothing on that that can lead to any legal action, as its all public domain information.
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Post by SouthStandShrew on May 18, 2011 13:44:33 GMT 1
How come no one else has asked the question before Now I'm just guessing but, A disgruntled ex employee who now has a major interest in another club wants do divert attention, Now i may be wrong but the ex employee may have gained inside info whilest working for STFC and has had no need to use it till for example NOW. JUST A GUESS MIND Hmmmmmmm initals 'JH' ?
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Post by Carter on May 18, 2011 13:46:23 GMT 1
It's public domain information so don't see the issue really... Unless there's a billionaire indian businessman in the wings, the deals already gone through, and they're waiting to announce all at some point after the season end so as to avoid unsettling the promotions push! Could be a MASSIVE sugar daddy waiting to take us to the premier league!!!
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Post by spanishwaiter on May 18, 2011 13:46:38 GMT 1
Now I'm just guessing but, A disgruntled ex employee who now has a major interest in another club wants do divert attention, Now i may be wrong but the ex employee may have gained inside info whilest working for STFC and has had no need to use it till for example NOW. JUST A GUESS MIND Hmmmmmmm initals 'JH' ? JH, CP all the same according to Wrexham fans like I say just a guess
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Post by stuttgartershrew on May 18, 2011 13:57:52 GMT 1
Not sure I like all this now. All this trouble up the road at Rexham seems to be coming a little closer to home or...
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Post by Mike on May 18, 2011 13:58:54 GMT 1
It's probably just a company where Roland keeps his shares for tax efficieny reasons etc. Hardly a big deal. Get a grip man.
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Post by cypher on May 18, 2011 14:01:32 GMT 1
It's probably just a company where Roland keeps his shares for tax efficieny reasons etc. Hardly a big deal. Get a grip man. There is a major transparency issue which i would suggest, IS a big deal. without disclosure of shareholdings and directorships of JEFREEN HOLDINGS LIMITED and confirmation of exactly where this company is registered, then serious questions will remain in my opinion. Lets not forget that JEFREEN HOLDINGS LIMITED are the MAJOR shareholder in Shrewsbury Town FC and as it stands, there is NO publicaly available information available on this company, NO footprint on google and NO registration at Companies House. Go Figure...
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2011 14:02:42 GMT 1
Not sure I like all this now. All this trouble up the road at Rexham seems to be coming a little closer to home or... Gents, have a look at the page on the club's website posted further up this thread which explains who the major shareholders at the club are. There has not been a significant change in that since the date of publishing i.e. December 2010.
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Post by heavenlyshrew on May 18, 2011 14:03:55 GMT 1
Not sure I like all this now. All this trouble up the road at Rexham seems to be coming a little closer to home or... I think some people are going to get into alot of bother over this stuff on B&A and red passion.I would not like to be in the shoes of the one that cops it.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on May 18, 2011 14:05:59 GMT 1
Not sure I like all this now. All this trouble up the road at Rexham seems to be coming a little closer to home or... Gents, have a look at the page on the club's website posted further up this thread which explains who the major shareholders at the club are. There has not been a significant change in that since the date of publishing i.e. December 2010. Oh aye!! Grip now taken.
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Post by mattmw on May 18, 2011 14:19:17 GMT 1
Wasn't the address for the company listed as The Lodge, Abbey Foregate? If so wasn't that where Wycherley lived (possibly still does)
I'm no expert on financial matters but could Wycherley have both a personal stake in the club, and his business also hold a stake?
Would be useful to know who the holding company is but not unduly worried it's anything out of the ordinary
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on May 18, 2011 14:22:42 GMT 1
So it is just Mr Wycherley's family trust.
That makes a lot of sense.
But why would a new poster appear out of the woodwork and try to make a big deal of it?
Why now?
If it is someone who has met Plimmer or I in the last 10 years it could be one of about a thousand people!
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Post by Bayston Hill Shrew on May 18, 2011 14:24:51 GMT 1
I must have missed something where does it state they are MAJOR share holders in STFC?
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Post by cypher on May 18, 2011 14:32:52 GMT 1
The thread was moved with all the share info, but JEFREEN HOLDINGS LIMITED hold 211,360 shares against Roland Wycherley shareholding of just 128,000
Family trust it may or may not be Mr Throb, you only have Rolands word for it, what is clearly certain though is that the company is offshore, and at the moment NOBODY knows who the directors or shareholders are, what their individual shareholdings are or what other interests they may have using that company as a front, there could be risk that nobody is currently aware of.
Why all the secrecy, like i said previously, there may be nothing to it, but there needs to be transparency as this company IS the MAJOR shareholder in the club, holding nearly double the amount of Rolands personal shareholding.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on May 18, 2011 14:37:27 GMT 1
How can that be if this information is correct and up-to-date...
R E Wycherley and his family trusts: 43.63% K Sayfritz:10.29% D Passant:10.29%
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on May 18, 2011 14:38:58 GMT 1
Agreed Stutty: Add the personal shareholding and the family trusts and you get 43%
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Post by stfcfan87 on May 18, 2011 14:39:20 GMT 1
So it is just Mr Wycherley's family trust. That makes a lot of sense. But why would a new poster appear out of the woodwork and try to make a big deal of it? Why now? If it is someone who has met Plimmer or I in the last 10 years it could be one of about a thousand people! Indeed and the only posts he's made are exclusively on this thread, all of which repeat the same message. Based on that, I don't blame El Hurrican for being slightly cautious
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Post by camdenshrew on May 18, 2011 14:52:17 GMT 1
I think the best thing to do is to wait for the club's explanation on this. There may be a perfectly simple explanation for it - and I think there probably is - but I agree in the interests of transparency the club should let fans and shareholders alike know the score.
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Post by eclipsechaser on May 18, 2011 17:15:10 GMT 1
Why do you have to hide behind your ' Cypher ' name ?
Are you trying to discredit Roland Wycherley's reputation ?
Are you really just interested in mud slinging , a smear campaign ?
Are you trying to buy shares to try to create a takeover , a buyout ?
Why don't you do your own research first and then ask the club for an explanation ?
The last financial records are clear for all to see and so are the shareholding records .
I think you have a greater and maybe a personal grudge to bear ?
And
Just a word of warning , You are walking a fine line as to libel .
Be very careful !
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Post by cypher on May 18, 2011 17:39:41 GMT 1
Thank god for wikileaks then ;-) Seriously, no grudges here, like i stated previously, Rolands a top man although i have never spoken to him, but for what he has achieved at the club, all credit is due, however, dont you think that we as fans have a right to know WHO JEFREEN HOLDINGS LIMITED are? Surely its in the best interest of the club to be tell its fans who is behind the controlling interest at the club? Libel? dont make me laugh, for what? asking who JEFREEN HOLDINGS LIMITED are, and who is behind them? This is not Iran!
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Post by jontifree on May 18, 2011 18:49:34 GMT 1
Sorry to disappoint you all but it's a clerical error. I did the deal over the phone after a few too many shandies. You see I had just won the Lottery and thought I should buy the Club. It is supposed to read J Freeman Holdings Ltd.
Anyway I've got this 5 year plan......
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Post by SeanBroseley on May 18, 2011 19:03:17 GMT 1
or even CP but thats my guess and my Guess only I love this messageboard, its never dull ;D Oh sometimes it is. But not at the moment.
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Post by Bayston Hill Shrew on May 18, 2011 19:25:47 GMT 1
Can someone tell me where the info comes from. I looked on the Club site and can't see any mention . All that I can see is that about 64% of shares are accounted for. That leaves 36%. Are they all owned by the supporters. I know there was a sale of shares a while ago.
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Post by hooverfoxhat on May 18, 2011 19:47:03 GMT 1
Just a thought but would this Jefreen Holdings have anything to do with the surrounding land that is attached to the site of the club, something like 20+acres so I was led to believe - barking up the wrong tree perhaps but as I said.....just a thought.
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Post by SeanBroseley on May 18, 2011 20:52:05 GMT 1
Just a thought but would this Jefreen Holdings have anything to do with the surrounding land that is attached to the site of the club, something like 20+acres so I was led to believe - barking up the wrong tree perhaps but as I said.....just a thought. The question was asked about the ownership of the surrounding land a number of years ago and an answer was refused.
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