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Post by blum on May 11, 2011 15:34:04 GMT 1
Dr Crippen, Just ask him for a fight at the next home game. If Downie punches as hard as he shakes breaks your hand then.. It's gonna hurt
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2011 10:58:34 GMT 1
Morning chaps,
Sorry for the delay in my response. I am now ready to reply to the various points made on this thread.
Paul – I gratefully accept your ‘humble’ apology. I’m well aware that I’m a ‘little c***’ at times and probably deserved the abuse which once emanated from your fingertips. You’ve also once accused me of being ‘physically inadequate’ despite the fact that I’m 6ft tall and weigh 12 stone. Even so, I was probably just the recipient of military banter whereby insulting behaviour and masculine bravado are common place. I also harbour no grudge toward you. While I may find your scaremongering posts (and incessant use of exclamation marks) a little irritating, you seem like a decent bloke to me.
I note your clarification regarding sporadic/‘persistent’ standing. However, I seem to recall that our difference in opinion mainly stemmed from the penalties which you implied would occur if supporters violated ground regulations. I never disputed that fines and stadium reductions were theoretically possible sanctions; but simply that they were never going to take place. It is all scaremongering nonsense perpetrated by jobsworths and supporters with too much respect for authority. Since our discussions, the New Meadow has witnessed large-scale pitch invasions from away fans, pitch encroachment from excitable home supporters and even drunken punch-ups. Despite this – and the ‘persistent’ standing which is now unofficially tolerated in blocks 18 & 19 – no sanctions from the local authority have been forthcoming. I was right.
Wolves may have been recently threatened, but no penalty will ever be imposed. Many hark back to Old Trafford having had a reduced capacity at a meaningless European match as evidence that standing will not be tolerated by the powers that be. This was many years ago now and, while thousands continue to regularly stand in the Stretford End, no repeat sanction has been imposed or threatened. You are however correct in saying that it would be ‘best for the club’ if all supporters remained seated and silent like proverbial lemons. Unfortunately I have never regarded the club’s interests as more important than my match-day experience so avoiding all home fixtures seems the wisest policy.
Have a great day.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2011 11:06:09 GMT 1
Dr Crippen, Just ask him for a fight at the next home game. Either way he can't win. If he refuses you can say he bottled it and if he accepts then he will be a hypocrite because he will be fighting in the ground, something which he denounced on the other thread. All things considered, this is not a bad idea. I am hopeful that our messageboard rivalry will not turn into physical violence, but in today's climate you cannot ever be entirely sure.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2011 11:29:43 GMT 1
Didn't say I approved - again your attention to detail is lacking. Not raising anything here - I've raised it once already and if you choose to ignore that's your call. You described my degree choice as ‘interesting’ and for me that is a positive enough appraisal to be regarded as an approval. There was no contradiction in my earlier post. I have made it perfectly clear in the past that I deem your contributions to both bland and often irrelevant. You’ve reigned it in lately but there was once a time where you were systematically ruining this messageboard through constant postings about Manchester United and Liverpool FC. While B&A has recently sprouted seeds of recovery, I hold you and your Liverpool-loving cronies personally responsible for its demise. I confess that I did engage with you earlier in this thread but there is only so much hounding and ‘calling out’ that I can ignore. I will also respond to the points you raised as a gesture of both defiance and principle. Great closing banter about my ‘quack’ by the way. Really clever stuff. In the infamous thread about blocks 18 and 19, you state that the ‘family stand was sold out’ thus enabling children and family-friendly supporters to be situated near to the eventual violence. I acknowledge this as a good point and one I admittedly overlooked when questioning why so many youngsters were apparently caught in the crossfire of a violent punch-up. You then tarnish a decent and well-made point by stating that there ‘shouldn't be any no-go areas for families in the stadium’. Personally I am inclined to disagree. What is the point of having a family-designated area if some continue to flout this and sit elsewhere? I’m of course not suggesting that families should be barred from sitting elsewhere, but am certainly correct to note that - if large numbers of young children continue to infiltrate vocal blocks - the New Meadow has major problems with regard to atmosphere. Perhaps the benefits of the family stand could be publicised more? I don’t think many would deliberately opt for seating near hostile and ‘old school’ Shrewsbury supporters. Despite this opinion, I am genuinely saddened that some youngsters (and first-time female supporters) have been deterred by the violence recently witnessed at the Oxford game. No one should be intimidated out of supporting their local football club. As for the ‘Family Club’ accolade – who honestly gives a s**te? If you attach any value to that award you need to give your head a shake. It made no difference to the club (as far as I could tell) and was merely another corporate success for the bulging C.V. of Jon Harris.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2011 11:33:38 GMT 1
... for you to return to a Southampton messageboard?
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Post by Lord Ha Ha on May 13, 2011 12:51:17 GMT 1
A few good comeback rounds there Dr.
This one could yet be heading for an honourable draw.
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Post by Fingers on May 13, 2011 13:01:02 GMT 1
Didn't say I approved - again your attention to detail is lacking. Not raising anything here - I've raised it once already and if you choose to ignore that's your call. You described my degree choice as ‘interesting’ and for me that is a positive enough appraisal to be regarded as an approval. There was no contradiction in my earlier post. I have made it perfectly clear in the past that I deem your contributions to both bland and often irrelevant. You’ve reigned it in lately but there was once a time where you were systematically ruining this messageboard through constant postings about Manchester United and Liverpool FC. While B&A has recently sprouted seeds of recovery, I hold you and your Liverpool-loving cronies personally responsible for its demise. I confess that I did engage with you earlier in this thread but there is only so much hounding and ‘calling out’ that I can ignore. I will also respond to the points you raised as a gesture of both defiance and principle. Great closing banter about my ‘quack’ by the way. Really clever stuff. In the infamous thread about blocks 18 and 19, you state that the ‘family stand was sold out’ thus enabling children and family-friendly supporters to be situated near to the eventual violence. I acknowledge this as a good point and one I admittedly overlooked when questioning why so many youngsters were apparently caught in the crossfire of a violent punch-up. You then tarnish a decent and well-made point by stating that there ‘shouldn't be any no-go areas for families in the stadium’. Personally I am inclined to disagree. What is the point of having a family-designated area if some continue to flout this and sit elsewhere? I’m of course not suggesting that families should be barred from sitting elsewhere, but am certainly correct to note that - if large numbers of young children continue to infiltrate vocal blocks - the New Meadow has major problems with regard to atmosphere. Perhaps the benefits of the family stand could be publicised more? I don’t think many would deliberately opt for seating near hostile and ‘old school’ Shrewsbury supporters. Despite this opinion, I am genuinely saddened that some youngsters (and first-time female supporters) have been deterred by the violence recently witnessed at the Oxford game. No one should be intimidated out of supporting their local football club. As for the ‘Family Club’ accolade – who honestly gives a s**te? If you attach any value to that award you need to give your head a shake. It made no difference to the club (as far as I could tell) and was merely another corporate success for the bulging C.V. of Jon Harris. I'm rather honoured to see that although you have chosen your course through freewill you still feel the need to gain my approval. Rather poor post regarding family seating and Family Club of the year. Would also add it's Greenhous Meadow not the New Meadow, come down and give it a go you never know you might like it. If you don't like the stadium and you don't like the messageboard then why do you continue to contribute when you add very little? Oh, King Kenny has signed a three year deal
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Post by venceremos on May 13, 2011 13:42:22 GMT 1
No one should be intimidated out of supporting their local football club. So do you want me to go back to Southampton or not? Having lived here for a while now I think of this as my local club. Logical inconsistency and Crippen - who'd have thought it?
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Post by alex1993 on May 13, 2011 13:52:24 GMT 1
ShrewdFingers comeback was poor. round 2 definitely goes to the Dr.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2011 13:58:03 GMT 1
So do you want me to go back to Southampton or not? Having lived here for a while now I think of this as my local club. Please note that I specified Southampton's messageboard and made no comment regarding your newly-found allegiance to Shrewsbury Town FC. I maintain what I said in that no one should be intimidated out of watching their local team; your presence at the New Meadow does not bother me in the slightest. However, I resent a 'Johnny-come-lately' (copyright Welshshrew) giving it the big 'un to lifelong supporters via their club forum. In online terms, I would greatly appreciate it if you joined a Saints' website instead. I hope this explains my comment and highlights that there are no 'logical inconsistencies' within my postings.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2011 14:05:45 GMT 1
I have clocked the reponse, will attend to and correct further at a later date!! ;D ;D
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Post by venceremos on May 13, 2011 14:23:09 GMT 1
So do you want me to go back to Southampton or not? Having lived here for a while now I think of this as my local club. Please note that I specified Southampton's messageboard and made no comment regarding your newly-found allegiance to Shrewsbury Town FC. I maintain what I said in that no one should be intimidated out of watching their local team; your presence at the New Meadow does not bother me in the slightest. However, I resent a 'Johnny-come-lately' (copyright Welshshrew) giving it the big 'un to lifelong supporters via their club forum. In online terms, I would greatly appreciate it if you joined a Saints' website instead. I hope this explains my comment and highlights that there are no 'logical inconsistencies' within my postings. Whether you're bothered or not is of no concern and it's laughable that you think it might be. But I am mildly curious that you resent me posting on here. That explains a lot and I'm glad you're finally being honest about it. Better late than never. However, you'll have to explain the logic in me watching and supporting Shrewsbury but not being welcome to express an opinion. Or why I should post on a Saints messageboard when I don't really follow them any more. It's only a game, by the way.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2011 16:11:42 GMT 1
ShrewdFingers comeback was poor. round 2 definitely goes to the Dr. agree. im no fan of the big fella, but he certainly seems to have delivered a couple of knock out blows to the challengers there.
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on May 13, 2011 16:13:02 GMT 1
ShrewdFingers comeback was poor. round 2 definitely goes to the Dr. agree. im no fan of the big fella, but he certainly seems to have delivered a couple of knock out blows to the challengers there. Just seems like a load of mundane waffling in my opinion.
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Post by shrewsace on May 13, 2011 18:25:21 GMT 1
I lament the passing of Gay Meadow as much as you do, Doc, and we've expressed similar sentiments regarding the loss of history and character we've suffered as a result of the move to Oteley Road.
That said, we're not going to return to Gay Meadow and Oteley Road will be our home for the forseeable future, probably for many decades to come.
Watching some truly sub-standard football under GP and Simpson hardly helped with the settling in process, but I've come to take the view that the fans are the soul of the club, and the fans are still there - well, most of them.
The more of the old fans continue to watch the Town of a Saturday afternoon, the more the old spirit will live on.
Watching some truly dull football under GP and Simpson hardly helped with the 'settling in' period, but these days I find Block 18 a decent enough place to watch football and continue my support of Shrewsbury Town football Club.
It's time to end the boycott, Doc. Your team is Shrewsbury Town, and - like it or not - they now play at an out of time stadium called Greenhous Meadow.
It's time to return to the fold...
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