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Post by Scarecrow on Apr 15, 2011 13:29:13 GMT 1
Jose Morinho IMO
The fact he has been to so many clubs and achieved great things with the majority cannot be ignored. He seems to have a real knack at "knowing" football and has a fantastic personallity.
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Post by Myddleshrew on Apr 15, 2011 14:51:19 GMT 1
Ferguson is the best british manager ever in my ophion, yeah he's spent some money on players but the core of United team success have been achieved by the youth products players like Giggs Scholes The Neville Brothers, Beckham, Fletcher,Butt. No team in England in the last 20 years can boast a youth product like uniteds
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Post by stfcfan87 on Apr 15, 2011 15:50:02 GMT 1
lol Having spent a fortune he was able to turn them into champions remember alan hansen "you don't win anything with kids" how much did that side cost ? maybe check some stats out before going with your heart [/quote] ------------------------- haha, the person from this board who has to defend every criticism of anything to do with man united regardless of what it is, telling someone else not to vote with their heart. haha. not quite sure why you've bought up that link to the transfer league as besides wenger and mourinho everyother manager i compared ferguson too was from before the premier league started. Also worth pointing out though that the signings of schmeichel, irwin, parker, pallister, bruce, kanchelskis, ince, mcclair and hughes (ie. major parts of ferguson's initial success) aren't included in those figures - and all of them cost a lot of money at that time.
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Post by Ned on Apr 15, 2011 21:22:58 GMT 1
Jose Morinho IMO The fact he has been to so many clubs and achieved great things with the majority cannot be ignored. He seems to have a real knack at "knowing" football and has a fantastic personallity. British?
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Post by elmundo on Apr 15, 2011 21:37:20 GMT 1
Jose Morinho IMO The fact he has been to so many clubs and achieved great things with the majority cannot be ignored. He seems to have a real knack at "knowing" football and has a fantastic personallity. British? Would help if your thread title matched the question you really want answering.
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Post by Ned on Apr 15, 2011 21:56:45 GMT 1
British? Would help if your thread title matched the question you really want answering. Or people could read the question properly before answering? Edited it for you, before you get too confused.
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Post by elmundo on Apr 15, 2011 22:01:11 GMT 1
Would help if your thread title matched the question you really want answering. Or people could read the question properly before answering? Edited it for you, before you get too confused. Didn't confuse me, but it is understandable that some people weren't naming British managers, as they may not have read the whole thread, and just suggested a name based on the title.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2011 22:33:40 GMT 1
Don't recall anyone mentioning Alf Ramsey. Won the title with Ipswich. Evolved a playing method for England that enabled them to win the World Cup. With arguably a stronger team in 1970, he was unfortunate not to play the outstanding Brazil again in the final.
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Post by onthetrain92 on Apr 16, 2011 0:10:29 GMT 1
I'd certainly add Howard Kendall and Bobby Robson to the list.
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Apr 16, 2011 0:11:23 GMT 1
Don't recall anyone mentioning Alf Ramsey. Won the title with Ipswich. Evolved a playing method for England that enabled them to win the World Cup. With arguably a stronger team in 1970, he was unfortunate not to play the outstanding Brazil again in the final. Yes, Good shout Amazingly I'd forgotten about him, and so I guess had most on here. Can't be too many British managers got a League Title & a World Cup winners title to their name. Can't ever see a British manager managing a World Cup team to victory again
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Post by bordersalopian on Apr 16, 2011 0:25:48 GMT 1
1. Sir Alex of Ferguson - success domestically & in Europe with two teams 2. Sir Robert Robson - league championships in 3 different countries & a WC Semi-Final appearance 3. Bob Paisley - made a second tier team into a European powerhouse 3. Brian Clough - domestic league success with two provincial teams 4. Jock Stein - European success and domination in the domestic league - sadly to die after guiding Scotland to Mexico '86 5. Dario Gradi - so long at one club and has helped develop the early careers of so many players who have gone on to gain international honours
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Post by Pilch on Apr 16, 2011 4:33:53 GMT 1
lol Having spent a fortune he was able to turn them into champions remember alan hansen "you don't win anything with kids" how much did that side cost ? maybe check some stats out before going with your heart ------------------------- haha, the person from this board who has to defend every criticism of anything to do with man united regardless of what it is, telling someone else not to vote with their heart. haha. not quite sure why you've bought up that link to the transfer league as besides wenger and mourinho everyother manager i compared ferguson too was from before the premier league started. Also worth pointing out though that the signings of schmeichel, irwin, parker, pallister, bruce, kanchelskis, ince, mcclair and hughes (ie. major parts of ferguson's initial success) aren't included in those figures - and all of them cost a lot of money at that time. [/quote] basically because you seem to be under the impression fergie only won the league after spending a fortune quite wrong as i proved
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Apr 16, 2011 7:55:51 GMT 1
Agreed stfcfan87... They have spent a fortune. Maybe I'm lost will all these figures but the only one that I am concerned with is money spent. And as I see from that Manchester United are third (I think). One other club who have outspent them is Chelsea and what do you know, the only other club to have won anything of late is...Chelsea. Lord knows what Liverpool have been doing. But again, that table doesn't even consider the wages... Also... WBA buy a player for 20 million and sell him for 10 million, net spending comes to 10 million. Chelsea or Manchester United spend 40 million on a player and sell him for 30 million. Net spend 10 million? Same as Albion? So the net spending means nowt when looking to see how much a club have outspent others to win the league. So I never look at net spend, not sure why that table is ordered as such, always look to the money spent. Thats how you win a league by outspending others on very expensive players who very few can afford. Torres, that new Brazilian defender, Rooney, Nani, the chap they bought from Spurs. All the new arrivals at Manchester City (who will no doubt win sommat soon)... Its all about the money...
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