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Post by weststandshrew on Mar 27, 2011 21:02:37 GMT 1
How many points do you think we need to secure automatic promotion? I did the predictor thingy online and reckon we need 79 pts with better goal diff than Rotherham or 80pts to get 3rd and by the way I had Town in 3rd on 80pts . Prediction 1 Chesterfield 2 Wycombe 82 3 Shrewsbury 80 - - - - - - - - - - - - 4 Rotherham 79 Rotherham 1-1 Shrews Shrews 2-0 Macclesfield Aldershot 1-1 Shrews Shrews 2-0 Stockport Hereford 1-2 Shrews Shrews 2-1 Accy Cheltenham 0-1 Shrews Shrews 2-1 Oxford
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Post by blue and ambar on Mar 27, 2011 21:13:16 GMT 1
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Post by vivasalopia on Mar 27, 2011 21:32:37 GMT 1
How many points do you think we need to secure automatic promotion? I did the predictor thingy online and reckon we need 79 pts with better goal diff than Rotherham or 80pts to get 3rd and by the way I had Town in 3rd on 80pts . Prediction 1 Chesterfield 2 Wycombe 82 3 Shrewsbury 80 - - - - - - - - - - - - 4 Rotherham 79 Rotherham 1-1 Shrews Shrews 2-0 Macclesfield Aldershot 1-1 Shrews Shrews 2-0 Stockport Hereford 1-2 Shrews Shrews 2-1 Accy Cheltenham 0-1 Shrews Shrews 2-1 Oxford You can see us going unbeaten from now till the end of the season can you?
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Post by OswestrySalopian on Mar 27, 2011 21:35:01 GMT 1
Everytime we get 1 victory this question always crops up. Can we not get carried away and just take it one game at a time?
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Mar 27, 2011 21:44:01 GMT 1
I had us finishing 2nd with 78 points, changed one game to a draw and suddenly we were in 5th with 76 points. Whatever the total is, it's going to be close
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2011 21:58:23 GMT 1
How many points do you think we need to secure automatic promotion? I did the predictor thingy online and reckon we need 79 pts with better goal diff than Rotherham or 80pts to get 3rd and by the way I had Town in 3rd on 80pts . Prediction 1 Chesterfield 2 Wycombe 82 3 Shrewsbury 80 - - - - - - - - - - - - 4 Rotherham 79 Rotherham 1-1 Shrews Shrews 2-0 Macclesfield Aldershot 1-1 Shrews Shrews 2-0 Stockport Hereford 1-2 Shrews Shrews 2-1 Accy Cheltenham 0-1 Shrews Shrews 2-1 Oxford Love your optimism, but are'nt you being just a little bit biased with your predictions. Keep those predictions on one side, would be very interested to see how they have panned out in the end. Good stuff.
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Post by onthetrain92 on Mar 27, 2011 23:05:08 GMT 1
I'm pretty sure 75 points guarentees 3rd spot as all the others seem to play eachother, i could be wrong though.
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Post by onthetrain92 on Mar 27, 2011 23:09:41 GMT 1
Can't see why we can't win every game now. I'm sure we are good enough, just need to be consistant enough.
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Post by weststandshrew on Mar 27, 2011 23:55:01 GMT 1
On the Train if you try predictor on BBC sport website you'll see that 75 is no guarantee though I suppose its possible if there are a lot of upsets.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2011 23:57:28 GMT 1
On the Train if you try predictor on BBC sport website you'll see that 75 is no guarantee though I suppose its possible if there are a lot of upsets. BBC predictor aint the one out there playin on Saturdays, 24 points to play for, I think 17 - 19 more points will do it!!
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Post by WindsorShrew on Mar 28, 2011 7:23:05 GMT 1
8 games left - 24 points to go for.
Consistancy has been a massive weakness this term ( and the last) ((and the one before that...oh you get the picture)).
If we win 4 draw 2 lose 2 we will have done well ergo I predict a maximum of 14 points more this term.
However this is Salop in probability we will get 11
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Post by jamo on Mar 28, 2011 8:11:42 GMT 1
We arn't strong enough to grab that last automatic place, far to inconsistant.
I settled for the play offs a month ago and firmly believe that is where we will finish, then it's down to bottle and a little luck.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Mar 28, 2011 9:47:21 GMT 1
Agreed! And I reckon we are due a little bit of that... I don't think we'll win all our games, I think that is asking a bit too much. But then I doubt anyone around us will do so either. Its going to be a very tense few weeks. Plenty of ups and downs to come...
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Post by mattmw on Mar 28, 2011 10:15:35 GMT 1
Based on our current points to game average across the season we're heading for around 72 points which should be fine for the play-offs but probably not good enough for the automatic spots
We really need a good run of 3-4 wins in a row to give us a chance of getting the 3rd automatic spot, but think it will probably be the play offs again for us
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Post by shrewblue on Mar 28, 2011 10:27:07 GMT 1
For some uncanny reason, totally unsupported with facts and statistics I think 77pts and a better goal difference will be needed for 3rd spot
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2011 10:32:58 GMT 1
Tried it out...had us in a play off spot (just!) & at the other end Stockport & Barnet relegated with Burton staying up on goal difference!
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Post by Lord Ha Ha on Mar 28, 2011 11:58:02 GMT 1
We should have been four points closer to that required rate but for being cheated out of wins against Vale and Wycombe by the officials. We are owed a bucket load of bad decisions going for us rather than against us all the time. March form so far would look a whole lot better with four wins rather than just two and we could have put the Bury and Torquay games down as just blips.
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Post by penza on Mar 28, 2011 12:55:04 GMT 1
Gillingham the team to watch! I think they will go up in second place, and it will between about 6 teams for 3rd, Us, Bury, Wycombe, Torquay, Stevenage, Rotherham, Vale maybe?
We'll see, tomorrow night is huge anyway!!
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Mar 28, 2011 13:16:02 GMT 1
I'd include Oxford and Accrington in that list. Both within touching distance and Stanley are on a great run of form. Could be a very nervy last day of the season looking at the fixtures...
Town v Oxford Chesterfield v Gillingham Rotherham v Torquay Stevenage v Bury
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Post by blue and ambar on Mar 28, 2011 13:41:25 GMT 1
We arn't strong enough to grab that last automatic place, far to inconsistant. I settled for the play offs a month ago and firmly believe that is where we will finish, then it's down to bottle and a little luck. Not sure if anyone (Chesterfield aside) are strong enough and I wouldn't rule out second just yet either. Playoffs and automatic are both a realistic possiblity and considering that we must have only spent a matter of days outside the top 7 it would be disapointing not to make it now. Hopefully with a lot of top teams due to play each other I think 3 wins would get playoffs with 6 for automatic.
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Post by SamHarvey on Mar 28, 2011 13:58:51 GMT 1
i dont see why we can't go the rest of the season unbeaten. think weststandshrew's predictions are very accurate and pretty much the same as what i think. COYB
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2011 15:02:56 GMT 1
Believe we can go unbeaten till the rest of the season eh!!
Well our last run of easyish games I would say was the run between Southend at home on 20th Nov Through to Accrington away on 18th Janruary.
Yes crewe were up there but we played them at home, most of these were games we would expect to win, 5 home games and 3 away, out of that we got 10 points, which also brought us our longest unbeaten run of 5 games.
Yes we have a different looking team now, but so do most other squads.
We are not consistant enough to go unbeaten for the next 8 games!! hope I am wrong!!
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Post by blue and ambar on Mar 28, 2011 15:45:50 GMT 1
Believe we can go unbeaten till the rest of the season eh!! Well our last run of easyish games I would say was the run between Southend at home on 20th Nov Through to Accrington away on 18th Janruary. Yes crewe were up there but we played them at home, most of these were games we would expect to win, 5 home games and 3 away, out of that we got 10 points, which also brought us our longest unbeaten run of 5 games. Yes we have a different looking team now, but so do most other squads. We are not consistant enough to go unbeaten for the next 8 games!! hope I am wrong!! Going unbeaten is going to be a tough ask despite the relatively easy run in but thats not to say that automatic can be ruled out. Don't forget that during the run that you mention there was the little matter of 1 game in a month due to the snow. Yes it did seem to affect us more than other teams but did go some way to explaining why it happened.
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Post by Shrewed on Mar 28, 2011 15:50:08 GMT 1
We should have been four points closer to that required rate but for being cheated out of wins against Vale and Wycombe by the officials. We are owed a bucket load of bad decisions going for us rather than against us all the time. March form so far would look a whole lot better with four wins rather than just two and we could have put the Bury and Torquay games down as just blips. I am sure many of the teams in the top 10 have games where they think they have lost points because of the officials. These things even themselves out over a season. Remember Bradford and many Town fans believe Taylor committed a foul prior to Bradshaw scoring. 2 points less. Don't remember you complaining when Holt and Davies were gaining free kicks and penalties some might say dubiously. I suspect that the number of points for automatic promotion might be as low as 78 but I think the number of points required for a playoff spot might be high maybe 74.
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Mar 28, 2011 18:00:48 GMT 1
I reckon we're allowed one more defeat from now until the end of the season, and probably at most 2 draws. That's see us make 77 points, which may or may not be enough.
Looking at the fixture list, I can see 5 victories in there, but ultimately we are going to have to play well, forgetting the standard of the opposition. I'd still say we've got a healthy chance.
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Post by hooverfoxhat on Mar 28, 2011 18:08:35 GMT 1
We should have been four points closer to that required rate but for being cheated out of wins against Vale and Wycombe by the officials. We are owed a bucket load of bad decisions going for us rather than against us all the time. March form so far would look a whole lot better with four wins rather than just two and we could have put the Bury and Torquay games down as just blips. Same could be said about Chris Neals howler at Wycombe that gifted them a point and robbed us of all 3 which seems to be forgotten about, if we'd have taken our chances against Vale and Bury at home then results would have been much different - all ifs, buts and maybes and poor decisions have a habit of balancing themselves out across the season, have a look at Ravens goal-line clearance on Saturday........could so easily have gone against us.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2011 18:30:15 GMT 1
We should have been four points closer to that required rate but for being cheated out of wins against Vale and Wycombe by the officials. We are owed a bucket load of bad decisions going for us rather than against us all the time. March form so far would look a whole lot better with four wins rather than just two and we could have put the Bury and Torquay games down as just blips. Same could be said about Chris Neals howler at Wycombe that gifted them a point and robbed us of all 3 which seems to be forgotten about, if we'd have taken our chances against Vale and Bury at home then results would have been much different - all ifs, buts and maybes and poor decisions have a habit of balancing themselves out across the season, have a look at Ravens goal-line clearance on Saturday........could so easily have gone against us. So Chris Neal is now at fault, what about other members of the back four that have all made mistakes that have cost us goals, and strikers not being able to hit a cows arse with a cricket bat. removed by me cos did not read hoovers post correctly, sorry!! The reason why we have 60 points and not 61, 64 or indeed 66 is because we aint been good enough to get them, yes there have been desicions and mistakes that have not been in our favour, but if you dont convert your chances then you dont get the vital win!!
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Post by hooverfoxhat on Mar 28, 2011 18:56:52 GMT 1
Vitriolic!!!!! Bulls**t Paul - Simply highlighting 1 very basic mistake that cost us points against 1 of the very same teams that was mentioned in the response I was commenting on.
Read through the' vitriole' and surely you'll be able to see that I'm saying exactly what you are alluding to - players make mistakes and we haven't got more ponts than we should have because we haven't been good enough to accrue them. Poor refereeing decisions are no more to blame than players errors and mistakes.
You've known me long enough to know there is no vitriolic abuse aimed by me at our players, I might have an opinion that differs from yours or others at times and I admit that there are 1 or 2 players I don't rate highly at all but vitriolic .......no!
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Post by Jonah on Mar 28, 2011 20:46:05 GMT 1
We arn't strong enough to grab that last automatic place, far to inconsistant. I settled for the play offs a month ago and firmly believe that is where we will finish, then it's down to bottle and a little luck. Agree brother
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Post by eggyshrew on Mar 28, 2011 21:15:47 GMT 1
77 points 3rd
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