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Post by ssshrew on Mar 20, 2011 15:38:00 GMT 1
Or even longer Ian!!!!
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Post by shrewder on Mar 20, 2011 19:48:27 GMT 1
Ref and linesman should be suspended.
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Post by londonshrew75 on Mar 20, 2011 20:55:27 GMT 1
The fact that more money went on Town to bt Wycombe than any other game in England, leading up to the match.......? Town were 13/10 on the Friday evening and came into evens with some bookmakers. Can a ref really be that bad, without good reason ? He has to be quized.
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Post by SteveHayesFanClub on Mar 20, 2011 22:11:07 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2011 22:19:35 GMT 1
I worked out today that I had been watching the Town for 38 years I think (Aldershot 0-0 was my first game). I've seen s**t officiating in that time. Some really s**t officiating No, some really, really s**t officiating But today, even on the scale of really, really s**t officiating this was (by some way) some really s**t officiating. The worst i'd ever seen. A once in a lifetime example of s**t officiatingdom. s**tter than s**t. You young ones who witnessed today the most appalling example of officiating on an English football pitch, no British, no European, no Worldwide....No, Galactic...... are truely priviliged to say 'I was there'. Forget Kennedys assasination, 9/11 or the day man set foot on the moon, you were witness to the most amazing piece of history ever, s**t officiating at its most s**tness. Truly Exalted . Truly, truly Exalted.
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Post by grinfish on Mar 20, 2011 22:27:49 GMT 1
I had to stop at Exalting and nominating for Best Post. The cardinals at the Vatican wouldn't take my call, and apparently presidents stay in office for several years.
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Post by northwestman on Mar 20, 2011 22:54:52 GMT 1
Surely something has to be done about this guy? He makes Ross and Bratt look competent.
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Mar 20, 2011 23:03:34 GMT 1
The thing that really rankles is that you can deal with someone making a genuine mistake about a real event.
A tackle goes in: great tackle or foul? It is a matter of opinion. But a tackle did go in.
What does not get any easier is that this is not a matter of opinion.
It is a total fabrication.
At best an utterly misfounded assumption.
At worst a wilful rewriting of history.
Either way it was a total disregard of the duty of the officials.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Mar 21, 2011 11:00:58 GMT 1
Spot on TBH. You can sort of go along with plenty of decisions made by the referee during a game where he has to make some judgment or another on a particular incident. All very much based on opinion garnered in the moment, in the split second. But the incident with the goal on Saturday just doesn’t come into the same category by a long, long way. It’s just a complete and utter mess. Just simply cannot understand how that goal was given.
By the by, while I know nothing can be done regarding the decision and the result but have the club made any formal complaint. The least we can expect is some sort of apology. If not from the referee himself then from the association. Someone need to come at, put their hands up and admit they made a massive error…
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Post by blum on Mar 21, 2011 12:11:19 GMT 1
The ref needs a swift tomahawk to the head! Man, that goal decision was a disgrace, especially given who the opposition were and Bury losing. Serious injustice. Should the officials apologise for the F*** up? I thought respect works both ways. T055ers absolute t055ers.
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Post by Hatfieldshrew on Mar 21, 2011 13:19:57 GMT 1
Just watched the match on shrewsplayer and the foul on Collins, the ref said he was playing advantage.
Well you can see who he wanted to have the advantage and it wasn't the team in Blue.
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Post by venceremos on Mar 21, 2011 14:42:39 GMT 1
There can be an element of ambiguity about some of the most contentious decisions. Lampard's disallowed goal against Germany is a great example and a perfect contrast - the officials couldn't be certain so they had to disallow it.
But there is no possible ambiguity about Wycombe's "goal". By definition (because it clearly didn't come close to happening), the ref and his assistant can't have been certain the whole of the ball crossed the line. So, at best, one or both of them guessed. That's not just bad officiating, it should be inexcusable in professional football. They shouldn't be allowed to officiate professionally again because they have called into question their own (and the game's) integrity. The worst single decision I've ever seen, to compound all the other bad decisions.
I booed the officials off the pitch (something I've never done before) because I thought Collins should have had a free kick or penalty and the defender red carded and because Harrold should have been awarded a penalty just before the ref blew full time. I couldn't be sure about the offside decision and I was too far away to see their "goal" (though not that much further away than Linington looking at the stills - he's way behind the play). Having seen it on TV (didn't need a replay or alternative angles, it's plain as day), I think I let the idiots off lightly.
The club should object to those officials ever being in charge of a Shrews game again. I will keep note of their names in case they do return. I cling to the hope that they'll get enough abuse and stick from this that they give it up. Good riddance if they do.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2011 14:49:01 GMT 1
Never understand decisions like this - the Wycombe fans don't claim a goal, the players don't, therefore it is not a goal.
It is like when the ball goes behind the goal. If the defenders walk away, the goalkeeper goes to retrieve the ball, and the strikers also walk away - it is a goal kick.
It shouldn't matter what you think you've seen as an official - if all of the players think it's not a goal, or it's a goal kick (for the two separate examples above) then in my opinion you go with that. Why would you give anything bar the decision that everyone else thinks it is?
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Post by Optimistic Shrew on Mar 21, 2011 18:52:58 GMT 1
When is Dermot Gallagher on Sky Sports News? He comes in once a week to discuss key refereeing decisions and we might be featured. Anyone know?
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Post by WindsorShrew on Mar 21, 2011 18:56:36 GMT 1
Never understand decisions like this - the Wycombe fans don't claim a goal, the players don't, therefore it is not a goal. It is like when the ball goes behind the goal. If the defenders walk away, the goalkeeper goes to retrieve the ball, and the strikers also walk away - it is a goal kick. It shouldn't matter what you think you've seen as an official - if all of the players think it's not a goal, or it's a goal kick (for the two separate examples above) then in my opinion you go with that. Why would you give anything bar the decision that everyone else thinks it is? I understand what your saying Ant, I disagree though players and fans are not good benchmarks...cheating is common enough as it is. Best let the Ref be independent to all except officials imo.
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Post by mrmagoo on Mar 21, 2011 19:23:51 GMT 1
Having received a reply from the Football League today this is the email to complain about the officials.. enquiries@football-league.co.uk
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Post by ercallshrew on Mar 21, 2011 19:43:27 GMT 1
cheers mr magoo, was going to email (for wot good it will do ) but if you dont try, if this was a premier league game it would have been plastered all over the media ..
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Post by theshrews81 on Mar 21, 2011 21:43:08 GMT 1
Having received a reply from the football League today this is the email to complain about the officials.. enquiries@football-league.co.uk what did the reply say?
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Post by ferkle94 on Mar 25, 2011 18:44:53 GMT 1
just had a reply...
Thank you for your email with regards to the recent Shrewsbury Town V Wycombe game.
We receive numerous queries and complaints regarding individual referee's decisions and their overall performance. Although we are unable to respond on each individual incident, we can advise that the performances of all officials are constantly monitored by way of club and assessor reports, the match video or DVD and, at some grounds, the Prozone statistics. The match is also analysed by the Referees' Manager, a referees’ coach and the referee and, despite the perception of some, match officials are most accountable for their performance.
Referees make their decision based on years of training and experience and what they see at that moment in time, from a position different from anyone else in the ground - he can only act on what he sees, assisted by the other match officials and not everyone will agree with the decisions he takes.
Contrary to expectations, the Referees' Manager will not attempt to support a referee out of sheer loyalty. It is his responsibility through Professional Game Match Officials to identify training needs of not only individual referees but also of all National Group officials.
The Manager also works with his group in a bid to constantly improve standards in a game which has become faster and more frenetic over recent years. Every match is recorded and referees are under closer scrutiny than ever before.
In addition, it is worth noting that the Referee’s Manager has spoken to Graham Turner, manager of Shrewsbury Town. The error has been acknowledged.
We trust that this highlights to you the procedures in place designed to improve performances and thank you for contacting us with your comments
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