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Post by mrbunny on Mar 14, 2011 20:39:37 GMT 1
If you had a 6 year child who went on a school trip and you provided them with a packed lunch, is it being unreasonable to expect them to be allowed to eat it before they get to school?
My son went on a school trip today and his group were late back to their meeting point so weren't allowed to eat their food when others had as the teachers were worried they would be late back. Personally i don't mind if they were an hour late as long as they had eaten their lunch at a decent time.
Am i being unfair because i am angry and am going to ask for an explanation tomorrow?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2011 20:45:04 GMT 1
Are you clear on the facts. When did your son eat his lunch?
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Post by mrbunny on Mar 14, 2011 20:52:59 GMT 1
When they got back to school after 2 o clock.
I know this as i asked one of the mums who was on the trip, she said they got back about 2.20, not really on if a child has to wait that long to eat their lunch is it?
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Post by albionshrew on Mar 14, 2011 22:49:30 GMT 1
From a teachers' point of view I reckon they were keen to get the children back to school. Many parents would probably complain about a late arrival. It's a no-win situation for the teachers!
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Post by shrewroo on Mar 14, 2011 23:02:15 GMT 1
Will you remember this in a few months? The first thing I would ask myself is, why should I kick off about this? The teacher(s) probably made a decision that was the best of a bad bunch. You might not agree, but then what is to say if it hadn't been the other way round some other parent would have been troubled by it? It's hard enough teaching without having to deal with parents getting too involved.
The second thing I would ask myself would be, what have I got to gain by having a word? Nothing imo
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Post by Pilch on Mar 14, 2011 23:22:05 GMT 1
you still havent given us the full facts what was on his sandwiches ?
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Post by mrbunny on Mar 14, 2011 23:27:20 GMT 1
Shrewroo - The school have another group going to same place later in the week, i don't want other kids to go without their lunch. So i will make a complaint. They shouldn't have made such a basic error.
Pilch - Cheese.
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Post by mrbunny on Mar 14, 2011 23:30:43 GMT 1
From a teachers' point of view I reckon they were keen to get the children back to school. Many parents would probably complain about a late arrival. It's a no-win situation for the teachers! To be honest any parent that expects them to be on time is deluded, only takes an accident a few miles in front of them and they are stuffed, look at Town going to was it Bury a few years back. I'd rather they were late back and my lad had eaten than done what they did thanks.
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Post by jaytee on Mar 14, 2011 23:37:59 GMT 1
My first advice to you, mrbunny, is to be cool when you contact the school. I've been in a similar position a few years ago. Take a deep breath and write down any questions you have. I hope you are constructive. There are probably lessons to be learnt here.
Good luck.
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Post by saladsaladsalad on Mar 14, 2011 23:52:54 GMT 1
Hold the Shropshire Star front page - "child goes without lunch until 2pm shocker!"
Won't you feel a bit silly in the grand scheme of things complaining about your lad maybe being a bit peckish for an hour? Must be fun being a teacher with parents moaning about insignificant things like this.
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Post by jaytee on Mar 15, 2011 0:32:54 GMT 1
I wouldn't have thought so, the 3 salads. I haven't quoted you, because if you reflect on your post, you might care to withdraw it. If it was my child, I wouldn't be very pleased at all. It was an organised trip. (Allegedly).
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Post by Pilch on Mar 15, 2011 1:19:19 GMT 1
there was a bloke on the greyfriars bridge earlier this afternoon that told me he hadnt eaten for 4 days i do admire his will power
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Post by saladsaladsalad on Mar 15, 2011 1:43:10 GMT 1
I wouldn't have thought so, the 3 salads. I haven't quoted you, because if you reflect on your post, you might care to withdraw it. If it was my child, I wouldn't be very pleased at all. It was an organised trip. (Allegedly). No thanks, I stand by what I said. Fair enough it was an organised trip - sometimes things don't go according to plan. Whether the teachers decision at the time was right or wrong, the end result was some presumably very healthy and well nourished children waiting for their lunch until 2pm - perhaps mrbunny can make his complaint on Friday, red nose day for most ironic effect.
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Post by mrbunny on Mar 15, 2011 8:36:55 GMT 1
Fair enough SSS you are entitled to your opinion but i wonder how you would react if it was your child?
Probably haven't got any though have you to have an attitude like that.
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Post by shrewroo on Mar 15, 2011 9:18:40 GMT 1
What about a bit of perspective here? There are ~30k people unnaccounted for in Japan right now, and a very real threat that nuclear radiation could cause untold havoc for many more. Yet in Shropshire, a handful of kids had their lunch delayed by an hour or two and somehow it is an issue worthy of a complaint?
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Post by SeanBroseley on Mar 15, 2011 9:26:46 GMT 1
I think JT's advice is probably sound. Don't go at it like a bull at a gate and ask questions to confirm details rather than starting off by making a complaint. In answer to the question how would I feel, I would feel OK about it if my child was otherwise fit and healthy.
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Post by theshrews81 on Mar 15, 2011 9:29:24 GMT 1
So You are telling me you have never once fed your child later than planned? At our infant school, snack time is 11.15 and lunch is 1.20 till 2. Doesn't seem to hurt them!
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Post by Hatfieldshrew on Mar 15, 2011 9:51:57 GMT 1
What about a bit of perspective here? There are ~30k people unnaccounted for in Japan right now, and a very real threat that nuclear radiation could cause untold havoc for many more. Yet in Shropshire, a handful of kids had their lunch delayed by an hour or two and somehow it is an issue worthy of a complaint? I think the perspective here is that Mr Bunny, who I'm sure feels sorry for the people in Japan, knows there is not a lot he can do about it, he can't ask the Earth way it did what it did. But with the welfare of his child, he can, as he can ask the school. Also it is not unreasonable to ask others on their opinions. I think you should ask why the party your child was in was late back to the meeting point and why the reason was not factored into the trip time. At the end of the day I think you will find it will come down to money, although they might not admit it. The cost of holding back the coach, with insurance, wages etc. Also although you don't mind the trip being late back, others may worry when the coach does not turn up on time, as that would mean some one would have to communicate with other people.
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Post by shrewinjapan on Mar 15, 2011 10:49:26 GMT 1
I thought it was an unwritten rule of school trips that kids eat their lunch on the bus just after they have departed in the morning. That's what I always did anyway.
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Post by siabod on Mar 15, 2011 13:15:41 GMT 1
there was a bloke on the greyfriars bridge earlier this afternoon that told me he hadnt eaten for 4 days i do admire his will power Saw him myself, said he hadn't had a bite for four days - so I bit him.
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Post by siabod on Mar 15, 2011 13:17:18 GMT 1
Were they walking back to school, if not could they not eat on the way back.
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Post by mrbunny on Mar 15, 2011 14:39:24 GMT 1
Over an hours bus journey back.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2011 16:56:09 GMT 1
i think you are being picky Mr B. and i have 5 kids and they all love me dearly
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Post by BigBadSagi on Mar 15, 2011 17:06:51 GMT 1
Hold the Shropshire Star front page - "child goes without lunch until 2pm shocker!" Won't you feel a bit silly in the grand scheme of things complaining about your lad maybe being a bit peckish for an hour? Must be fun being a teacher with parents moaning about insignificant things like this. Do you have children?
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Post by kuffdam72 on Mar 15, 2011 17:23:36 GMT 1
lunchgate !
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Post by Pilch on Mar 15, 2011 17:41:47 GMT 1
i would guess the teacher didnt have any butties with him/her and had a bit of a sulk on
not quite sure what you intend to achieve maybe just email the school would suffice
sounds like you want the teacher hung drawn and quartered lol
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Post by grinfish on Mar 15, 2011 18:03:11 GMT 1
Sounds unfair on the kids to me. I'd think an apology that they weren't treated equally should be forthcoming. I wonder what they would have done if there had been any diabetics or others with necessary dietary regimes present?
Finding out your mates got to have lunch and you can't could easily upset the nippers, and before you know it, you have a full-scale revolt of the oppressed against the establishment authorities on your hands. Or possibly some tantrums.
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Post by solishrew on Mar 15, 2011 18:26:14 GMT 1
Was there a reason why they couldn't eat on the coach on the way back - would have been on time and allowed the kids to eat as well? Or is that common sense?
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Post by mrbunny on Mar 15, 2011 18:43:54 GMT 1
Sounds unfair on the kids to me. I'd think an apology that they weren't treated equally should be forthcoming. I wonder what they would have done if there had been any diabetics or others with necessary dietary regimes present? I think there was one with something like that, one mum was going ballistic today about her kid needing to eat at set times or getting poorly. I didn't need to do much, just told them i was annoyed my lad wasn't allowed to eat when others had, i think they had enough on their plate with the big wench going gungho at them. Serves them right though, if you are taking kids on a trip at least make sure it is organised properly. Having a few relatives with diabetes and knowing it is younger kids doing same trip i wanted to make sure the same mistakes weren't repeated on their trip. Some people on here think i was being petty, but they probably haven't got kids so wouldn't know why i may have got upset as they have no idea of the bond between a man and his son.
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Post by jaytee on Mar 15, 2011 20:07:34 GMT 1
i think you are being picky Mr B. I don't. When our daughter was about 8, I was waiting for her by the school gate. When she came out, she was upset. A girl who had just joined the class and suffered from behaviour problems, had got hold of some scissors and taken my daughters cardigan out of her bag and cut it into pieces. I went to see the class teacher and asked why the girl had been unsupervised. Looking down her nose, she replied, "I don't have to explain anything to YOU!". I lost it a bit, but didn't swear or threaten, and left the room. 2 days later, I received an official letter from the school, banning me from the premises, and ordering me not to approach any staff. I rang the school and asked for a meeting with the Head. When I went to the meeting, I was smartly dressed in a dark suit, shiny shoes and wearing a rather special tie, which was likely to impress if you read the writing on it. (He did). Now I've done a bit of speaking, for work, charity and after dinner speaking, so I gave my version of events, which was excepted. I received an apology, and the school offered to pay for a replacement cardigan, but I refused the offer, saying it was a matter of principle. So if you have never been emotionally involved in this kind of situation, you don't understand, to be honest.
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