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Post by Bilbo on Mar 10, 2011 22:38:30 GMT 1
It will be interesting to see if B&Aers have changed their mind since they got into power.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2011 23:21:01 GMT 1
the most shockingly inept start to a governments term in office I can ever remember . have managed to some how p**s off everyone they can but have achieved nothing, have performed more U turns in ten months than Labour managed in ten years. an utterly vile government made up of power mad morally corrupt fools. god save us.
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Post by sgd on Mar 10, 2011 23:27:43 GMT 1
the most shockingly inept start to a governments term in office I can ever remember . have managed to some how p**s off everyone they can but have achieved nothing, have performed more U turns in ten months than Labour managed in ten years. an utterly vile government made up of power mad morally corrupt fools. god save us. is that a yes or no then?
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Post by grinfish on Mar 11, 2011 2:02:58 GMT 1
Well, they haven't been on the phone to CASH4GOLD yet, which has to be something. Not really had an appreciable effect on me yet, so very much a Wait & See.
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Post by WindsorShrew on Mar 11, 2011 8:02:59 GMT 1
an utterly vile government made up of power mad morally corrupt fools. god save us. How times change..you spent a lot of time defending the above when it suited..... Again you miss the point of the complete and utter mess they were left...your childish cheap shots at the expense of the Lib Dems would of course been worship had they taken up Browns offer........ Still, I am disapointed about a few things - I also don't pretend to understand it all fully. In terms of trust I have more in this lot sorting out the mess than putting the last lot back in again.
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Post by MartinB on Mar 11, 2011 8:22:55 GMT 1
the most shockingly inept start to a governments term in office I can ever remember . have managed to some how p**s off everyone they can but have achieved nothing, have performed more U turns in ten months than Labour managed in ten years. an utterly vile government made up of power mad morally corrupt fools. god save us. For me some of the so called u-turns are called listening to people. Something you could never accuse Tony Blair and Gordon Brown of.
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Post by southshropblue on Mar 11, 2011 8:35:13 GMT 1
I think they have made some big and difficult decisions that were put of for years by the previous government for electoral reasons However we wont know for years whether they have got the decisions right or wrong!
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Post by mattmw on Mar 11, 2011 8:48:16 GMT 1
Think some of the u turns have been caused by pushing things through too quickly without thinking them through.
From the conservative point of view they desperately need some good economic figures in the next two quarters or their deficit reduction plans are going to be shown up
From the lib dems point of view some review of the power of the banks to dominate the decision making of the government is needed if they are to keep their credibility
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Post by ratcliffesghost on Mar 11, 2011 9:11:13 GMT 1
Think some of the u turns have been caused by pushing things through too quickly without thinking them through. From the conservative point of view they desperately need some good economic figures in the next two quarters or their deficit reduction plans are going to be shown up From the lib dems point of view some review of the power of the banks to dominate the decision making of the government is needed if they are to keep their credibility Point 1, agree wholehartedly Point 2 It aint going to happen, a bleak few months ahead Point 3 They have lost credability already
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2011 9:19:31 GMT 1
Again you miss the point of the complete and utter mess they were left...your childish cheap shots at the expense of the Lib Dems would of course been worship had they taken up Browns offer........ Not really the point. The "mess" did exist but over hyped by this unholy alliance. It is the absolutely incompetent way they have gone about things. Only today they appear to have backtracked over Nimrod to a degree.
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Post by ratcliffesghost on Mar 11, 2011 9:25:28 GMT 1
Again you miss the point of the complete and utter mess they were left...your childish cheap shots at the expense of the Lib Dems would of course been worship had they taken up Browns offer........ Not really the point. The "mess" did exist but over hyped by this unholy alliance. It is the absolutely incompetent way they have gone about things. Only today they appear to have backtracked over Nimrod to a degree. Agreed - funny how a worldwide recesion seems to be blamed on the Labour Government, especially as it came from the private sector who are apparently brilliant
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Post by heavenlyshrew on Mar 11, 2011 9:39:21 GMT 1
I said once these left wing freaks got any sort of power this country would be screwed............. The people who voted them in should hang their head in shame.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2011 9:53:39 GMT 1
an utterly vile government made up of power mad morally corrupt fools. god save us. How times change..you spent a lot of time defending the above when it suited..... i have never supported this government, are you drunkAgain you miss the point of the complete and utter mess they were left...your childish cheap shots at the expense of the Lib Dems would of course been worship had they taken up Browns offer........ What they where left was the result of a worldwide recession created by wordwide banks and financial systems. Though dumb and dumber take the credit now, the fact that we didnt end up like greece, ireland or portugal et al, is down to the sound financial and economic action taken by Gordon Brown.
As for the libdems, i will take cheap shots, its the price they play for becoming political Whores. if you find this difficult to understand, i suggest you spend a few minutes listening to cleggs speaches in the run up to the election, then conrast it with where they are now. might open your eyes a little.
But then, you know this deep down already dont you, it just hurts to admit your heroes are actually villains Still, I am disapointed about a few things - I also don't pretend to understand it all fully. In terms of trust I have more in this lot sorting out the mess than putting the last lot back in again. Well i dont, obviously, but i will be interested to see in 12 months whose opinon has changed the most. my position as most know, is pretty much set in concrete, and thats not necessarily a good thing i admit, but when the cuts start to bite, pensions cut, hospital waiting lists rise, unemployment goes through the roof, more and more people sleeping rough, deeper and deeper cuts to our armed forces, rising interest rates, bigger university bills, spiralling fuel costs, bigger tax bills for fewer services ect ect ect, i hope you will be big enough to admit you where wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2011 9:55:12 GMT 1
I said once these left wing freaks got any sort of power this country would be screwed............. The people who voted them in should hang their head in shame.
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Post by poirot on Mar 11, 2011 10:07:08 GMT 1
I said once these left wing freaks got any sort of power this country would be screwed............. The people who voted them in should hang their head in shame. You couldn't make him up could you
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Post by shrew54 on Mar 11, 2011 10:37:41 GMT 1
I said once these left wing freaks got any sort of power this country would be screwed............. The people who voted them in should hang their head in shame. Compared to the BNP they are left-wing One of the most amazing things I heard this week was despite all the problems with rising unemployment and cuts to for most people, George 'we're all in this together' Osborne is under pressure to abolish the 50% tax rate in his budget. So all the people who can afford more than anyone else will be better off, while everyone else is having to tighten their belts. Welcome back Maggie
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Post by heavenlyshrew on Mar 11, 2011 12:17:01 GMT 1
You will be fine if you earn 100K plus a year or you have a big house in rural Shropshire or you drive round in a range rover that cost 60k. Its ok the less well off are being hit from all sides and it will get even worse. What will be next to go cold weather payments,family tax credits,free milk for the under fives?
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Post by oranjemob on Mar 11, 2011 12:19:19 GMT 1
[/img] [/quote] You ain't seen nothing yet. Just wait until the Budget reveals how they're going to 'reduce red tape' for business Ouch!!
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Post by ratcliffesghost on Mar 11, 2011 12:30:07 GMT 1
Some interesting "tweaks" on tax and benefits on there too - just to ensure we are not all in this together
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Post by shrewsace on Mar 11, 2011 12:49:01 GMT 1
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Post by theriverside on Mar 11, 2011 13:17:57 GMT 1
What they where left was the result of a worldwide recession created by wordwide banks and financial systems. Though dumb and dumber take the credit now, the fact that we didnt end up like greece, ireland or portugal et al, is down to the sound financial and economic action taken by Gordon Brown. Don't you think it's a bit rich to claim that when things went tits up it was nothing to do with Brown, but anything positive happening with the economy is all down to him? Just an opinion..................also love the slating of the Lib Dems who Brown was desperate to work with in order to cling to power.
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Post by poirot on Mar 11, 2011 13:54:30 GMT 1
also love the slating of the Lib Dems who Brown was desperate to work with in order to cling to power. I think you've somewhat missed the point here. While some Lib Dem members and voters were appalled that they joined with the Tories, most of the criticism has not been because of who they aligned themselves with but their abject betrayal of long-held principals and their blatant U-turns on election promises. Brown, like any other PM in his position, looked at the possibilities of doing a deal but (from many reports because of Labour’s unwillingness) nothing came of it. There’s nothing wrong with joining a coalition but to renege on such fundamental promises, is a step too far and one that will see very many ex-supporters like me never ever vote for them again.
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Post by SouthStandShrew on Mar 11, 2011 14:32:32 GMT 1
I'd rather masterbate a bloke off than vote Lib Dem again.
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Post by davycrockett on Mar 11, 2011 14:35:54 GMT 1
Easy to forget the 6/7 years of growing popularity in the polls that labor enjoyed before the wheels fell off mainly due to iraq / afganistan and the credit crunch..... which has affected most countries irrespective of who was in power its taken 6/7 months for the Con / Dems to see their popularity slump and the Lib Dems set back 50 years in theirs it will all end in tears sooner than many may think
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Post by theriverside on Mar 11, 2011 15:02:12 GMT 1
also love the slating of the Lib Dems who Brown was desperate to work with in order to cling to power. I think you've somewhat missed the point here. While some Lib Dem members and voters were appalled that they joined with the Tories, most of the criticism has not been because of who they aligned themselves with but their abject betrayal of long-held principals and their blatant U-turns on election promises. Brown, like any other PM in his position, looked at the possibilities of doing a deal but (from many reports because of Labour’s unwillingness) nothing came of it. There’s nothing wrong with joining a coalition but to renege on such fundamental promises, is a step too far and one that will see very many ex-supporters like me never ever vote for them again. I was aiming the comment more at those with Labour tendencies rather than Lib Dem voters who admittedly are not likely to be happy with a lot of what their leader is supporting.................
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Post by Bilbo on Mar 11, 2011 15:44:22 GMT 1
I think these poll figures show the unpopularity of the Con/Dems considering the lead they both had over Labour prior to the General Election, I think it will only get worse for them in the next few months.
Latest Voting Intention 9 Mar 36 42 9 Lab +6 8 Mar 36 44 10 Lab +8 7 Mar 36 42 9 Lab +6 6 Mar 35 41 11 Lab +6 4 Mar 35 43 10 Lab +8 4 Mar 33 41 10 Lab +8 3 Mar 36 42 10 Lab +6 2 Mar 36 41 11 Lab +5 1 Mar 34 43 11 Lab +9 28 Feb 36 43 10 Lab +7 27 Feb 35 39 12 Lab +4 25 Feb 36 44 10 Lab +8 24 Feb 38 42 10 Lab +4 23 Feb 38 44 11 Lab +6 22 Feb 37 43 9 Lab +6 21 Feb 36 42 11 Lab +6 20 Feb 35 38 18 Lab +3 18 Feb 37 41 10 Lab +4 17 Feb 36 42 10 Lab +6 16 Feb 35 45 10 Lab +10 15 Feb 37 44 10 Lab +7 14 Feb 36 44 10 Lab +8 12 Feb 33 43 13 Lab +10 11 Feb 35 45 9 Lab +10 10 Feb 36 42 11 Lab +6
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2011 15:55:46 GMT 1
[Don't you think it's a bit rich to claim that when things went tits up it was nothing to do with Brown, but anything positive happening with the economy is all down to him? Just an opinion..................also love the slating of the Lib Dems who Brown was desperate to work with in order to cling to power. im not sure i ever said that. i do believe that given a couple of years people such as yourself will wake up and realise how good we had it under Labour, and that the policies bein persued now by this government have very little to do with economics and a lot to do with political dogma. not sure if desperate is the right word, but the key point is that Brown ultimately wasnt prepared to sacrifise his political soul in the persuit of power. clegg obviously doesnt have the same moral strength.
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Post by Dale on Mar 11, 2011 16:11:45 GMT 1
I'd rather masterbate a bloke off than vote Lib Dem again. Regrettably I voted Lib Dems in the election, think the Lib Dems will be the biggest losers at the next general election if they carry on at this rate. Lib Dems were probably nothing more than a 'protest vote' for many disgruntled Labour supporters at the last election, massively overhyped party who think theyre the dogs b******s just because they are 'sharing power' with the Tories.
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Post by SouthStandShrew on Mar 11, 2011 16:41:11 GMT 1
I'd rather masterbate a bloke off than vote Lib Dem again. Regrettably I voted Lib Dems in the election, think the Lib Dems will be the biggest losers at the next general election if they carry on at this rate. Lib Dems were probably nothing more than a 'protest vote' for many disgruntled Labour supporters at the last election, massively overhyped party who think theyre the dogs b******s just because they are 'sharing power' with the Tories. Exlated.
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Post by Mike on Mar 11, 2011 17:06:52 GMT 1
Labour didn't fix the roof when the sun was shining. Unfortunately the coaliton has had to make some very difficult and unpopular decisions to sort the mess out. I'm confident that we will be better off as a result in the long run.
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