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Post by Dancin on Mar 7, 2011 13:16:43 GMT 1
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Post by Amsterdammer on Mar 7, 2011 13:19:18 GMT 1
Why not just seal off the Town and be done with it?
It will bring the much discussed footpath issue to the fore.
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Post by Pilch on Mar 7, 2011 13:20:44 GMT 1
is it a segregation issue ?
riff raff / upper class
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Post by ratcliffesghost on Mar 7, 2011 13:21:13 GMT 1
The Labour newsletter that came through all doors in Sutton & Reabrook was full of this - " disquiet from local residents" apparently Have the SARA tories jumped ship
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2011 13:24:44 GMT 1
i think there may be issues around the numbers of picnic baskets, champagne flutes and massively oversized glittery spectacles.
in fairness, at least we can be reasonably sure that jon tandys objections will not be based around some snobby hatred of shrewsbury town fc or football fans in general.
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Post by scooter on Mar 7, 2011 13:31:18 GMT 1
i think there may be issues around the numbers of picnic baskets, champagne flutes and massively oversized glittery spectacles. I know you're taking the pee a bit, but seriously I doubt anyone will be allowed to take food or drink in - I bet Jenny's don't get the job either
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Post by WindsorShrew on Mar 7, 2011 13:40:27 GMT 1
Maybe Mr Tandy is the man to approach regarding the Super Blues Way then.
Further to that why didn't he raise this issue before ?
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Post by petetheloon on Mar 7, 2011 13:42:40 GMT 1
Looks like JT is simply representing his constituants. So he's just doing what he was elected to do in my opinion.
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Post by ratcliffesghost on Mar 7, 2011 13:50:25 GMT 1
Maybe Mr Tandy is the man to approach regarding the Super Blues Way then. Would take one of his constituents to raise it not one of you "tourists"
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Post by venceremos on Mar 7, 2011 14:45:21 GMT 1
Will show Shrewsbury (the town, not the club) in a very bad light if the event doesn't go ahead. Won't help the club either.
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Post by DaveG on Mar 7, 2011 14:47:28 GMT 1
i think there may be issues around the numbers of picnic baskets, champagne flutes and massively oversized glittery spectacles. I know you're taking the pee a bit, but seriously I doubt anyone will be allowed to take food or drink in - I bet Jenny's don't get the job either[/quote] Bet they do......
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Post by blum on Mar 7, 2011 15:07:25 GMT 1
This move by this individual doesnt surprise me one bit.... Let's leave Shrewsbury in the 19th century eh!! T055er
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Post by Dale on Mar 7, 2011 15:34:57 GMT 1
I'm not a Shrewsbury resident so I probably dont know the full facts but I always thought Jon Tandy was very pro-STFC in the past and especially regarding our ground move, so I'm surprised its him that has raised this issue, what is there to be concerned' about?
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Post by ratcliffesghost on Mar 7, 2011 16:01:51 GMT 1
His ward is around the meadow Meole and Sutton (nudge nudge )
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Post by The Shropshire Tenor on Mar 7, 2011 16:05:20 GMT 1
[/img][/quote] Yes, let Elton bring the town into the mid 20th century
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Post by bananafeet on Mar 7, 2011 16:10:50 GMT 1
I cant see why its a safety issue, most blokes people will be holding hands........
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Mar 7, 2011 17:15:34 GMT 1
Looks like JT is simply representing his constituants. So he's just doing what he was elected to do in my opinion. Spot on Pete. Of course the councillors for that ward are going to have a bit of public waffle and get some random safety criteria changed to show they have done a bit to help.
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Post by shrewsace on Mar 7, 2011 18:50:41 GMT 1
About time a grass roots movement rose up and stopped this happening. It really is too much of a din - and he's gay, you know.
It simply isn't appropriate for the County Town of Shrewsbury to be hosting this sort of thing, especially with the added inconvenience of people having to park their cars and thus destroying the peace and quite we're entitled to enjoy round these parts, without interruption, every hour of the day, every day of the week.
I've also heard a nasty rumour Foster and Allen may be playing a 'gig' at the Springfield Community centre - something I plan to campaign vigorously against if proven to be true.
I'm sorry if this is embarrassing for you modern, young folk but Elton John is simply to cutting edge for Shrewsbury.
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Post by saladsaladsalad on Mar 7, 2011 19:09:59 GMT 1
Jon Tandy is an excellent local councillor and him together with Liz Parsons and others have done great work in the Sutton/Reabrook ward - they are actually interested in what people think and the concerns they have.
Not surprised he has concerns over how the event will go, look at it this way - at the moment there is basically no 'legal' parking in the vicinity of GM. On a normal match day, people have learnt to deal with this as they attend GM many times and many are based in town anyway so can walk/bus/get lift/taxi. This is with 5,500 people or so, for the concert this is more than tripled to 17,000 - many of whom will never have been to GM before and the vast majority will be from out of town. The P&R is pretty crap dealing with several hundred people, imagine it with 3,000 people wanting the bus! Then another 3,000 cars parked in the locality....
And yes, JT is very pro-STFC, it was the previous Tory incumbents who used to door-to-door the area telling people what bedlam would be caused by noisy football fans, they seemed to delight in upsetting the older residents with their fairy-tales!
In the Sutton & Reabrook newsletter, only 2 paragraphs refer to the concert so he's hardly making a big fuss about it, the 'top story' is regarding a phone mast in sutton farm!
The newsletter makes it sound as if on-street parking is to be permitted (I suppose the signs say 'no matchday parking' and so won't apply) in which case I can imagine the SARA lot have gone ballistic, no wonder JT has to be seen to be raising their concerns.
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Post by mattmw on Mar 7, 2011 19:31:32 GMT 1
Don't think this is too much to get worked up about. Most entertainment licences go through council based on officer recommendations, but they can get called in by Councillors for additional scrutiny
All Councillor Tandy has done is ask for additional scrutiny of the plans - presumably to make sure the authorities are happy with them. It doesn't necessarily mean he is against the event taking place.
Arguably such a big event should involve more planning than just being pushed through by officers - if the event is a major balls up with congestion, illegal parking etc it's unlikely more events will take place at the ground, however if it goes smoothly it could help the club hold future event. Certainly wouldn't view this as the same nimby comments that SARA used to make
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2011 20:41:22 GMT 1
The club comes across as rather naive. You would have thought all possible obstacles re planning would have been overcome before even announcing this type of event.
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Post by Salop_Ian on Mar 7, 2011 21:27:56 GMT 1
As far as I understand the situation the promoter of the concert - who approached STFC about using the venue rather than the other way round - is going through the same procedures to stage this concert as with all the previous ones. In the same tour Elton John will also be playing at Northampton and Hove cricket grounds.
If they are going to stage a concert they will make sure that the demand is there first, before going through the expensive process of getting planning permission.
Having been in meetings with Jon Tandy about this concert, at no time has he been negative or obstructive about the event. He does have concerns about health and safety and neighbourhood issues - and as an elected councilor he has every right to raise these. As he is quoted in the print edition of tonight's Star: "I want the concert to go ahead, it's very positive for the economy but it has to be done the right way."
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2011 21:58:35 GMT 1
Agree with what is being said in previous posts, and i am sure that Councillor Tandy is a good councillor and looks after his constituants. But, the big question is, why now? We have known that this event has been scheduled for some time, surely to suddenly find H&S issues this far down the line shows how lax pre-planning was from the outset. What a bummer.
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Post by Pilch on Mar 7, 2011 22:15:16 GMT 1
Maybe someone should take the opportunity to walk via sainsburys tomorrow after the game And then try and imagine what it will be like x 5 And what would happen if a couple fell over in the pitch black uneven corner bit by the tunnel I fell over there once, trod on a rotten old mattress The springs are still there :-0
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Post by jaytee on Mar 7, 2011 22:35:12 GMT 1
I fell over there once, trod on a rotten old mattress You frightened the life out of me. That's the last time I stay the night in Shrewsbury.
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Post by SteveHayesFanClub on Mar 7, 2011 22:45:19 GMT 1
I'm a bit stunned that the event has been allowed to get this far down the line before all issues safety and outwise had been ok'ed.
Everyone must remember though Shrewsbury is a local town for local people
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Post by jaytee on Mar 7, 2011 22:48:59 GMT 1
Everyone must remember though Shrewsbury is a local town for local people Exactly, and when pilch fell over my mattress, he nearly trod on the precious things.
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Post by jaytee on Mar 7, 2011 23:03:05 GMT 1
Pee ess. Before he ran away, I could have sworn he gave me a peck on the cheek.
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Post by mattmw on Mar 7, 2011 23:34:07 GMT 1
Agree with what is being said in previous posts, and i am sure that Councillor Tandy is a good councillor and looks after his constituants. But, the big question is, why now? We have known that this event has been scheduled for some time, surely to suddenly find H&S issues this far down the line shows how lax pre-planning was from the outset. What a bummer. Getting a licence to hold the event can only really happen once details of the scale of the event are known, so it's not really that much of an issue the licence for the event is only being sort now It's a kind of catch 22 situation where by the promoters of the event can't apply for the licence till they are certain it's financially viable for it to go ahead, so the council committee assessing it can't make a decision on it till the plans are submitted. Nor can the councillor ask for a committee to review the application until it's been submitted It's a long process to go through but we're still a few months from the event. Think the club, promotors and local councillor are all doing the correct thing to get the event on and honestly don't think the safety of the event is something that's not been thought about
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