harvey
Shropshire County League
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Post by harvey on Jun 30, 2010 19:46:53 GMT 1
Don't know if I am alone - but I have been waiting for the club to announce signings and generally to inspire me about for the forthcoming season before I renewed my season ticket.
In my opinion they haven't achieved this on any front so far, and I am mildly concenred as to why everyone has got caught up in the Turnet hysteria - I feel like I am watching a potential car crash!!
Added to which I am generally unimpressed with the announcements yesterday regarding the back room team - why have they taken so long to announce these appointments - after all they were obviously decided upon some time ago. There delay has cost them my season ticket (I probably only get to half a dozen home fixtures a year because of where I live - I am however fed up of being a charity for my beloved club, as I have religiously bought two season tickets each year for the past 10 years)
Finally am I alone in doubting the appointment of GT as our new Manager. I am a firm believer in not trying to turn the clock back - he never inspired me latterly when he was down the road and I have a terrible feeling we will pay the price yet again for Rolands rose coloured specs. Don't get me wrong - I was there throughout his first term - I saw his debut and enjoyed the rollercoaster of those heady days - but time has moved on - and so should we!
Anyway I have been playing Russian roulette with my season ticket renewal. The deadline has now passed (18.00hrs today) and I have become one of the apathetic and not renewed - I really can't be bothered if the Club are going to treat us with such contempt. I shall stick to the odd away game!
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Jun 30, 2010 19:49:22 GMT 1
People may be underwelmed by Turner going back to his Hereford roots, ie Trewick, Ford, the loan route and looking to bring in ex-Hereford players (rumours)
I know it's not exactly exciting stuff, but if the stuff we see on the pitch every Saturday improves then I'll be more than happy
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Post by WindsorShrew on Jun 30, 2010 20:00:45 GMT 1
Added to which I am generally unimpressed with the announcements yesterday regarding the back room team - why have they taken so long to announce these appointments - after all they were obviously decided upon some time ago. I have stated they will get my support, but frankly neither inspires me. Finally am I alone in doubting the appointment of GT as our new Manager. I am a firm believer in not trying to turn the clock back - he never inspired me latterly when he was down the road and I have a terrible feeling we will pay the price yet again for Rolands rose coloured specs. I have a feeling Mr Turner may have been brought in to maybe move upstairs, the Chairman is not a young man and for all we know may not be in the best of health. Mr Turners record is not exactley the best, yet he has ties to the Club and apparently money to invest.
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Post by onthetrain92 on Jun 30, 2010 20:19:22 GMT 1
Yeah his record isn't the best
Third Division (now Football League One): Winners (1978–79, 1988–89) Fourth Division (now Football League Two): Winners (1987–88), Third Place (2007–08) Conference National: Play-Off Winners (2005–06), Runners-Up (2003–04, 2004–05, 2005–06) Welsh Cup: Winners (1978–79, 1983–84) Football League Trophy (Sherpa Van Trophy): Winners (1987–88)
Poor record that.
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Post by monkee on Jun 30, 2010 20:29:26 GMT 1
Don't know if I am alone - but I have been waiting for the club to announce signings and generally to inspire me about for the forthcoming season before I renewed my season ticket. In my opinion they haven't achieved this on any front so far, and I am mildly concenred as to why everyone has got caught up in the Turnet hysteria - I feel like I am watching a potential car crash!! Added to which I am generally unimpressed with the announcements yesterday regarding the back room team - why have they taken so long to announce these appointments - after all they were obviously decided upon some time ago. There delay has cost them my season ticket (I probably only get to half a dozen home fixtures a year because of where I live - I am however fed up of being a charity for my beloved club, as I have religiously bought two season tickets each year for the past 10 years) Finally am I alone in doubting the appointment of GT as our new Manager. I am a firm believer in not trying to turn the clock back - he never inspired me latterly when he was down the road and I have a terrible feeling we will pay the price yet again for Rolands rose coloured specs. Don't get me wrong - I was there throughout his first term - I saw his debut and enjoyed the rollercoaster of those heady days - but time has moved on - and so should we! Anyway I have been playing Russian roulette with my season ticket renewal. The deadline has now passed (18.00hrs today) and I have become one of the apathetic and not renewed - I really can't be bothered if the Club are going to treat us with such contempt. I shall stick to the odd away game! you are prioryshrewd54 and i claim my free hat
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Post by jamo on Jun 30, 2010 20:29:32 GMT 1
I have a feeling Mr Turner may have been brought in to maybe move upstairs, the Chairman is not a young man and for all we know may not be in the best of health. Mr Turners record is not exactley the best, yet he has ties to the Club and apparently money to invest. Christ, I hope you are wrong ! I am prepared to give GT the chance as team manager but as a chairman he would be a nightmare. Comes across as a right despot.
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Post by Dont believe the HYPE on Jun 30, 2010 20:29:34 GMT 1
Yeah his record isn't the best Third Division (now football League One): Winners (1978–79, 1988–89) Fourth Division (now football League Two): Winners (1987–88), Third Place (2007–08) Conference National: Play-Off Winners (2005–06), Runners-Up (2003–04, 2004–05, 2005–06) Welsh Cup: Winners (1978–79, 1983–84) football League Trophy (Sherpa Van Trophy): Winners (1987–88) Poor record that. Yes not the best record, for over 30 years management
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Post by thenewblueorder on Jun 30, 2010 20:34:13 GMT 1
well the so called WOW signings ( as the new bread of salop fans like to call them ) have failed to get us anywhere , so lets wait and see who comes and goes now the 1st of july is upon us .
in turner we trust , well for the time being anyway.
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Post by thenewblueorder on Jun 30, 2010 20:35:39 GMT 1
Yeah his record isn't the best Third Division (now football League One): Winners (1978–79, 1988–89) Fourth Division (now football League Two): Winners (1987–88), Third Place (2007–08) Conference National: Play-Off Winners (2005–06), Runners-Up (2003–04, 2004–05, 2005–06) Welsh Cup: Winners (1978–79, 1983–84) football League Trophy (Sherpa Van Trophy): Winners (1987–88) Poor record that. utter madness !
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Post by mightyshrew on Jun 30, 2010 20:56:06 GMT 1
At last.... so its not just me then, amen to Harvey
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Post by WindsorShrew on Jun 30, 2010 21:00:12 GMT 1
Yeah his record isn't the best Third Division (now football League One): Winners (1978–79, 1988–89) Fourth Division (now football League Two): Winners (1987–88), Third Place (2007–08) Conference National: Play-Off Winners (2005–06), Runners-Up (2003–04, 2004–05, 2005–06) Welsh Cup: Winners (1978–79, 1983–84) football League Trophy (Sherpa Van Trophy): Winners (1987–88) Poor record that. I never said it was poor Dan, you just chose to see it that way - probably without realising it.
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Post by jaytee on Jun 30, 2010 21:17:41 GMT 1
I trust GT as a manager. 20 quid says so. But Chairman? No thanks.
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Post by mightyshrew on Jun 30, 2010 21:30:49 GMT 1
What worries me is.... each day I see the clubs around making some pretty good signings... I fear we missed the boat waiting for Turner. Even now, he's here and one player has signed.... I tell you what. I'm having a tenner on Lincoln
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Post by jaytee on Jun 30, 2010 21:52:02 GMT 1
I tell you what. I'm having a tenner on Lincoln Well give it me then. I'll squander it. It will be better spent.
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Post by mightyshrew on Jun 30, 2010 22:07:33 GMT 1
Well I've already squandered £265 so another £10 wunna hurt
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Post by jaytee on Jun 30, 2010 22:15:16 GMT 1
Well I've already squandered £265 so another £10 wunna hurt I'll come and sit by you and we can start the "Turner out" chant after 4 minutes of the Bradford match.
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Post by mightyshrew on Jun 30, 2010 23:21:50 GMT 1
Nah I'm starting it at the pre season friendlies..... On the flip side if you want me to join in and back him and bow down to the saviour that is GT then ok I'll back him but I want Champions League within 5 years............. Bloody hell, how daft and unrealistic am I by saying that eh? lol. Sorry I meant Europa League!!!
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Post by Salop1977 on Jul 1, 2010 0:01:57 GMT 1
Yeah his record isn't the best Third Division (now football League One): Winners (1978–79, 1988–89) Fourth Division (now football League Two): Winners (1987–88), Third Place (2007–08) Conference National: Play-Off Winners (2005–06), Runners-Up (2003–04, 2004–05, 2005–06) Welsh Cup: Winners (1978–79, 1983–84) football League Trophy (Sherpa Van Trophy): Winners (1987–88) Poor record that. Yes not the best record, for over 30 years management He was at Hereford for almost 15 years, Eveyone has a blip now and again.
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Post by saladsaladsalad on Jul 1, 2010 1:28:55 GMT 1
A lot of people here either dont know or are forgetting the past, other whingers dont want to 'go back' - what then? a younger manager a la simpson, quinn, peters?
onto facts, for the benefit of some:
78-79 div 3 (now L1 for the youngsters!) 1 Shrewsbury Town 46 21 19 6 61 41 +20 61
we then spent from 79/80 until 88/89 in what is now the CHAMPIONSHIP - the best years of STFC.
People also are dubious about
The new backroom staff (without any real reason) RW's supposed health problems (any evidence for this windsorshrew or just based due to his age?) GT's record at hereford (I would say a very good record given finances etc) GT being 'a right despot' (again any evidence Jamo or just hearsay?)
all in all way too many half-arsed opinions and downright made up statements.
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Post by monkee on Jul 1, 2010 1:37:25 GMT 1
A lot of people here either dont know or are forgetting the past, other whingers dont want to 'go back' - what then? a younger manager a la simpson, quinn, peters? onto facts, for the benefit of some: 78-79 div 3 (now L1 for the youngsters!) 1 Shrewsbury Town 46 21 19 6 61 41 +20 61 we then spent from 79/80 until 88/89 in what is now the CHAMPIONSHIP - the best years of STFC. People also are dubious about The new backroom staff (without any real reason) RW's supposed health problems (any evidence for this windsorshrew or just based due to his age?) GT's record at hereford (I would say a very good record given finances etc) GT being 'a right despot' (again any evidence Jamo or just hearsay?) all in all way too many half-arsed opinions and downright made up statements.
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Post by Shrewed on Jul 1, 2010 8:16:58 GMT 1
A lot of people here either dont know or are forgetting the past, other whingers dont want to 'go back' - what then? a younger manager a la simpson, quinn, peters? onto facts, for the benefit of some: 78-79 div 3 (now L1 for the youngsters!) 1 Shrewsbury Town 46 21 19 6 61 41 +20 61 we then spent from 79/80 until 88/89 in what is now the CHAMPIONSHIP - the best years of STFC. People also are dubious about The new backroom staff (without any real reason) RW's supposed health problems (any evidence for this windsorshrew or just based due to his age?) GT's record at hereford (I would say a very good record given finances etc) GT being 'a right despot' (again any evidence Jamo or just hearsay?) all in all way too many half-arsed opinions and downright made up statements. Have the happenings and comments since Turner's appointment excited me or convinced me that the holy grail is just round the corner? - NO. Did Turner do a great job 30 years ago? - YES Is Turner's record over the last 15 years good? - Doubtful. Is Turner the right man for the job? - Time will tell. Do I want to support a team of 5 loan players? - NO Will the Town play better football than they have over the last few seasons? - Hopefully. In 1978 Graham Turner was 31 a new young manager following on behind Alan Durban another new young manager. The fact that we gained promotion in 1979 under Turner is no guarantee, as some seem to think, that promotion will come in 2011. Things were so different then players stayed around, lived in Town and the team was able to evolve rather than the annual revolution we seem to experience now. I like Harvey have wondered up to the end whether or not to renew my season ticket, I'm still not convinced I made the right decision but in the end I decided to renew for no better reason than my heart overruled my head.
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Post by shrew54 on Jul 1, 2010 9:04:23 GMT 1
Christ, I hope you are wrong ! I am prepared to give GT the chance as team manager but as a chairman he would be a nightmare. Comes across as a right despot. I think you are misinterpreting the word 'despot' GT is a very determined individual and knows his own mind. If things aren't working he will look at changing it, give him time and this club will improve on and off the field
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Post by heavenlyshrew on Jul 1, 2010 9:08:57 GMT 1
Christ, I hope you are wrong ! I am prepared to give GT the chance as team manager but as a chairman he would be a nightmare. Comes across as a right despot. I think you are misinterpreting the word 'despot' GT is a very determined individual and knows his own mind. If things aren't working he will look at changing it, give him time and this club will improve on and off the field Good post. It might take GT 5 years to get the club where he wats it but i think we all know it will happen in the end.
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Post by Shrewed on Jul 1, 2010 9:13:43 GMT 1
Good post. It might take GT 5 years to get the club where he wats it but i think we all know it will happen in the end. But he's only got a 3 year contract with the possibility of 1 year additional as DOF. If we haven't been promoted by the end of 3 seasons I'd suggest Turner will have failed.
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Post by heavenlyshrew on Jul 1, 2010 9:16:18 GMT 1
Good post. It might take GT 5 years to get the club where he wats it but i think we all know it will happen in the end. But he's only got a 3 year contract with the possibility of 1 year additional as DOF. If we haven't been promoted by the end of 3 seasons I'd suggest Turner will have failed. So if GT gets us promoted in hs first season it will be a great success?
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Post by shrew54 on Jul 1, 2010 9:35:12 GMT 1
Good post. It might take GT 5 years to get the club where he wats it but i think we all know it will happen in the end. But he's only got a 3 year contract with the possibility of 1 year additional as DOF. If we haven't been promoted by the end of 3 seasons I'd suggest Turner will have failed. Agreed, but I think he's here for the long haul, and I have a feeling we'll be watching League 1 football in 3 years
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Post by SY3 on Jul 1, 2010 9:47:52 GMT 1
Nothing like a good old moan is there; however i feel completley the opposite. This is the first time i have purchased a season ticket as i am feeling rather optimistic about what lies ahead. Graham Turner isn't daft, he won't want to risk his reputation here, so claiming he is 'employing his mates' is a stupid statement. He clearly knows they can do a job, and will utilise their strengths in the right areas. I feel he has done a good job at Hereford over the years considering the finances he was dealing with. Ok the main concern is the lack of players being brought in, but who knows, we may have 4-5 nearly tied up, then all of a sudden it looks a little rosy. Only the first day of training, so Turner will need to see the players with the ball at their feet before he can make further recruitment plans.
In summary stay positive, nothing is a guarantee, but i genuinely believe we have the right man, and at least he wants to pass the ball on the ground from the back, unlike Homer did.
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Post by WindsorShrew on Jul 1, 2010 10:07:51 GMT 1
The new backroom staff (without any real reason) I have stated the new guys don't exactly inspire me but will get my support. RW's supposed health problems (any evidence for this windsorshrew or just based due to his age?) The latter and I can't finsd the word supposed anywhere. Dont read in what isn't there it makes you blinkered. The point is and I will explain it to you, the Chairman is not a young man with old age comes natural limitations. all in all way too many half-arsed opinions and downright made up statements. I think you are guilty of your own statement there my friend. Oh and eat more meat.
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Post by venceremos on Jul 1, 2010 13:52:16 GMT 1
Quite how someone would be inspired by the appointment of any assistant manager and fitness coach beats me, but each to their own.
To me it's only sensible that Turner would want to work with people he knows and has worked with before. Why would anyone expect it to be different?
What is it with people? I didn't think Simpson should have been sacked when he was, now I'm defending Turner on the first day of pre-season training. Does that make me a yes-man? Or is it just my instinct to go against the no-men?
Can't believe there are so many glass-half-empty people already. We haven't even got the glasses out yet!
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Post by mightyshrew on Jul 1, 2010 14:45:03 GMT 1
When you get the glasses out they'll be covered in dust if they've been packed away since 1984
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