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Post by markglasgow on Jun 2, 2010 22:42:12 GMT 1
With Rafa all but gone...
O'Neil 13/8 Hiddink 3/1 Hodgson 5/1 Grant 6/1 Dalglish 10/1 L Blanc 11/1 Oswaldo de Oliviera 12/1 Klinmann 16/1 McLeish 16/1 Schuster 20/1 M Hughes 20/1 Beckham 500/1
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Post by Ned on Jun 2, 2010 22:55:07 GMT 1
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Post by Optimistic Shrew on Jun 2, 2010 23:00:33 GMT 1
Klinsmann or O'Neil. I hope he stays though as they will never win the Premiership under him and will constantly be wide off the mark.
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Post by Tux on Jun 3, 2010 0:05:58 GMT 1
Bring back King Kenny! That would basically guarantee a return to the glory days. Best man for the job by a mile.
Anyway Benitez ain't sacked yet. He is entitled to a 16M pay-off and the club has only offered 3M so theoretically he can just refuse it and continue as manager. Plus I won't believe it until it is stated on the official club site. Its a ridicules sacking anyway. He has only had 20M net spend in 5 years and has only had 1 poor season out of 5 which was mainly caused by injuries to half the squad for long periods of time. He deserves at-least 1 more season to prove himself.
No way will it be Klinsmann. Hicks has already stated that he will never be manager of liverpool after he had slagged off benitez on tv.
Personally I think it will be Manuel Pellegrini although I'm hoping its Dalglish
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Post by Tux on Jun 3, 2010 0:18:05 GMT 1
Ok I call BS on this
Even the players aren't aware of anything on on.
Ryan Babel on Twitter had just typed: Wait what? Rafa's going?
I'm pretty sure they would be aware of this before us.
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Post by stfcfan87 on Jun 3, 2010 0:26:43 GMT 1
Why would they? They're on holiday or in a large number of cases in a different country / continent news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/liverpool/8719210.stmAnd you want someone to take over who hasn't managed for about 10 years, which was at celtic where he was sacked? who last won an english trophy in 1994, with a club with masses of money at the time, who left liverpool in 1990 as he was unable to deal with the rebuilding necessary? Good move i say - as a non liverpool fan
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Post by stfcfan87 on Jun 3, 2010 0:30:41 GMT 1
With Rafa all but gone... O'Neil 13/8 Hiddink 3/1 Hodgson 5/1 Grant 6/1 Dalglish 10/1 L Blanc 11/1 Oswaldo de Oliviera 12/1 Klinmann 16/1 McLeish 16/1 Schuster 20/1 M Hughes 20/1 Beckham 500/1 Back on the 3st Jan, I put £2 on Hodgson being the next manager at 21/1
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Post by Tux on Jun 3, 2010 0:37:40 GMT 1
Rawk has gone in to meltdown: www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=258846.200Why would they? They're on holiday or in a large number of cases in a different country / continent news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/liverpool/8719210.stmAnd you want someone to take over who hasn't managed for about 10 years, which was at celtic where he was sacked? who last won an english trophy in 1994, with a club with masses of money at the time, who left liverpool in 1990 as he was unable to deal with the rebuilding necessary? Good move i say - as a non liverpool fan There is this great invention that lets people communicate from long distances when away from home you know? Its called a mobile phone. Its a great bit of kit. As for Kenny well club legend and did a grand job the last time he was here. Also currently working at the club now to as head of the Academy. Sounds great to me. I'd take him over the likes of Mon and McLeish any day.
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Post by stfcfan87 on Jun 3, 2010 0:41:32 GMT 1
Well you've only got to look closer to home and see what happened with simpson, most of the players didn't seem to know what was happening at the time.
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Post by Tux on Jun 3, 2010 0:54:33 GMT 1
Yes but Liverpool is a massive world-class club thus is bound to be far more organized regarding these matters then shrewsbury who are unorganized even by league 2 standards.
I am 95% certain that Rafa will still be manager come tomorrow.
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Post by jamo on Jun 3, 2010 7:38:54 GMT 1
Please, please let it be Dalgliesh.
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Post by newgolddream on Jun 3, 2010 8:33:08 GMT 1
Yes but Liverpool is a massive world-class club thus is bound to be far more organized regarding these matters then shrewsbury who are unorganized even by league 2 standards. I am 95% certain that Rafa will still be manager come tomorrow. He might be still there tomorrow but he could be out over the weekend Link------> Liverpool offer severance deal to boss Rafael Benitez
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Post by oranjemob on Jun 3, 2010 8:35:12 GMT 1
If (when?) he goes then it's bye-bye Torres. And then what
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Jun 3, 2010 9:08:19 GMT 1
If (when?) he goes then it's bye-bye Torres. And then what How do you work that one out?
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Post by Gerry on Jun 3, 2010 10:42:31 GMT 1
Anyway Benitez ain't sacked yet. He is entitled to a 16M pay-off and the club has only offered 3M so theoretically he can just refuse it and continue as manager. Plus I won't believe it until it is stated on the official club site. Its a ridicules sacking anyway. He has only had 20M net spend in 5 years and has only had 1 poor season out of 5 which was mainly caused by injuries to half the squad for long periods of time. He deserves at-least 1 more season to prove himself. Dear Tux, I tried hard not to laugh when reading your excellent Liverpool-based post, sadly I failed. I particularly enjoyed your 'net spend' comments, which seem to be the mainstay of any Liverpool fan's argument these days. Check out this link: Link------> Net Spend Pay special attention to the second table down, Kind Regards Gerry
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Post by Fingers on Jun 3, 2010 11:54:29 GMT 1
Just as GT finds a new buyer . . .
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Post by Optimistic Shrew on Jun 3, 2010 13:54:42 GMT 1
Rafa Benitez's departure from Liverpool to be announced within 'the next 48 hours' according to SSN. Fans are organising a protest against Hicks and Gilette at 6pm tonight. Some block from a supporters trust (spirit on shankley or something like that) seems to be putting the blame on the owners and not Benitez and says that Liverpool will always be in decline when they are in charge and how the club is run is just disastarous. Bring back King Kenny! That would basically guarantee a return to the glory days. Best man for the job by a mile. Anyway Benitez ain't sacked yet. He is entitled to a 16M pay-off and the club has only offered 3M so theoretically he can just refuse it and continue as manager. Plus I won't believe it until it is stated on the official club site. Its a ridicules sacking anyway. He has only had 20M net spend in 5 years and has only had 1 poor season out of 5 which was mainly caused by injuries to half the squad for long periods of time. He deserves at-least 1 more season to prove himself. No way will it be Klinsmann. Hicks has already stated that he will never be manager of liverpool after he had slagged off benitez on tv. Personally I think it will be Manuel Pellegrini although I'm hoping its Dalglish Since Benitez took over at the start of the 2004/2005 season Liverpool have spent £250m. Man United have spent £193m and Liverpool have sold less than Man U as well £140m from Liverpool compared to £161 of Man United. Man United have won the league 3 times since. You however are significantly underacheiving based on money spent.
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Post by Scarecrow on Jun 3, 2010 14:07:13 GMT 1
With Rafa all but gone... O'Neil 13/8 Hiddink 3/1 Hodgson 5/1 Grant 6/1 Dalglish 10/1 L Blanc 11/1 Oswaldo de Oliviera 12/1 Klinmann 16/1 McLeish 16/1 Schuster 20/1 M Hughes 20/1 Beckham 500/1 I doubt Hodgson will leave Fulham
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Post by Fingers on Jun 3, 2010 14:13:43 GMT 1
Rafa Benitez's departure from Liverpool to be announced within 'the next 48 hours' according to SSN. Fans are organising a protest against Hicks and Gilette at 6pm tonight. Some block from a supporters trust (spirit on shankley or something like that) seems to be putting the blame on the owners and not Benitez and says that Liverpool will always be in decline when they are in charge and how the club is run is just disastarous. Bring back King Kenny! That would basically guarantee a return to the glory days. Best man for the job by a mile. Anyway Benitez ain't sacked yet. He is entitled to a 16M pay-off and the club has only offered 3M so theoretically he can just refuse it and continue as manager. Plus I won't believe it until it is stated on the official club site. Its a ridicules sacking anyway. He has only had 20M net spend in 5 years and has only had 1 poor season out of 5 which was mainly caused by injuries to half the squad for long periods of time. He deserves at-least 1 more season to prove himself. No way will it be Klinsmann. Hicks has already stated that he will never be manager of liverpool after he had slagged off benitez on tv. Personally I think it will be Manuel Pellegrini although I'm hoping its Dalglish Since Benitez took over at the start of the 2004/2005 season Liverpool have spent £250m. Man United have spent £193m and Liverpool have sold less than Man U as well £140m from Liverpool compared to £161 of Man United. Man United have won the league 3 times since. You however are significantly underacheiving based on money spent. Agree with your first part but your second point is such a ridiculous stand point. When a team is top for a long time there are fewer acquisitions that are required. Liverpool have not been anywhere near the top for a long time hence (like Chelsea and Man City) the cash needs to be splashed.
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Jun 3, 2010 15:11:03 GMT 1
I hope the anti-Liverpool fans and the Manchester United fans try not to laugh too much at this story
Rafa has had to take on the owners with bravery and dare for the last 3 years, all for the sake of the club
He may have made some bizarre decisons, but doesn't every manager. It seems to me that Benitez's decisions are scrutinized by the media and highlighted for every possible fault.
Take for example, substituting off a half-fit Torres when drawing 1-1 at St Andrews when the needed the win. Torres had done nothing all game and did not threaten once. Forget who he is, his performance and fitness levels warranted being substituted earlier than he actually was. Rafa get's ridiculed for this
Now, we move to Old Trafford. The Champions League quarter final, Sir Alex substitues off a half-fit Rooney who had been having an influence on the game, when United needed a goal. United didn't get that goal, Rooney should have remained on the pitch, but it just get's brushed under the carpet
I really feel for Rafa, but he is of too good ability to not be back managing a successful team winning trophies soon. He is Liverpool through and through, and I hope one day he returns to Anfield with another team and get's the reception and reaction he really deserves
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Post by The Shropshire Tenor on Jun 3, 2010 15:46:15 GMT 1
Liverpool have 5 players who could be the basis of a team that could challenge for the Premiership, Torres, Gerrard, Mascherano, Carragher and Reina.
As the first 3 are likely to be off in search of Champions League football any manager is going to stuggle to meet expectations.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2010 15:50:45 GMT 1
They need to save money.
Therefore, John McMahon.
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Jun 3, 2010 15:54:48 GMT 1
They need to save money. Therefore, John McMahon. Is Liverpool's need to save money any greater than any other team? Is it the right time to be immeadiately cutting back to more than likely damage the long term future of the club and a possible inability to compete at the top of league for years and years? It's a bit like Labour and Conservative during the recession. Do you continue to spend until everything is back right, or do you make immediate cut-backs saving money in the short term but potentially very harmful in the long run? I've always been a Labour man myself. Tom and George, do something decent for once and back the club
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Post by El Huracán!!!! on Jun 3, 2010 15:59:10 GMT 1
Announed hes gone....and with that certinly Torres...but as for Gerraed pobs not... lot of talk by some that one of the reasons hes gone is player power with Carrager and Gerrard wanting him gone....
Liverpool are screwed arnt they...
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Post by samtheshrew on Jun 3, 2010 16:01:45 GMT 1
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Post by Optimistic Shrew on Jun 3, 2010 16:02:46 GMT 1
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Jun 3, 2010 16:25:48 GMT 1
Announed hes gone....and with that certinly Torres...but as for Gerraed pobs not... lot of talk by some that one of the reasons hes gone is player power with Carrager and Gerrard wanting him gone.... Liverpool are screwed arnt they... I don't get where people feel this Torres-Rafa love-in comes from
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Post by blue and ambar on Jun 3, 2010 17:04:26 GMT 1
If (when?) he goes then it's bye-bye Torres. And then what I always thought the argument many have put forward was that Liverpool's best players would leave if Benitez stayed, not left.
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Post by kentonblue on Jun 4, 2010 0:41:51 GMT 1
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Post by jamo on Jun 4, 2010 8:07:47 GMT 1
Liverpool have not been anywhere near the top for a long time hence (like Chelsea and Man City) the cash needs to be splashed. Isn't 2nd quite near to the top ?
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