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Post by barrynic on Apr 6, 2010 18:56:49 GMT 1
Possibly if someone hit the ball in front of him we could see what pace he actually has, maybe he is faster than we think given that he has to run from a stop position most of the time.
My thoughts considering he is not fully fit and the situation regarding his dad were that it was an excellent display and he again did a lot of hard work when NOT in possession which obviously most of you did not notice.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2010 19:06:22 GMT 1
Possibly if someone hit the ball in front of him we could see what pace he actually has, maybe he is faster than we think given that he has to run from a stop position most of the time.. There was a ball played through yesterday where he potentially could have been one on one with the keeper in the first half However he reminded me of Omar Riza getting out-paced by the centre half at Dagenham last season Barry, you talk about all the hard work he does when not in possession and Im not going to disagree with that. However the man is supposed to be a winger not a defensive midfielder
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Post by WindsorShrew on Apr 6, 2010 19:07:20 GMT 1
For what it's worth.
I don't feel he can tackle, close down, head, sprint past, take on, dominate.
He can however throw a ball and put a cross in.
That said I feel that he is a lightweight to be frank and should not be here next season.
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Post by Hippo on Apr 6, 2010 19:54:06 GMT 1
Well, he did quite a lot of closing down and tackling yesterday, it took their left back about five attempts at playing balls down the line before he finally got one past him. He is slow, but he can pick a decent pass, and put in a decent cross. Would probably be a good centre midfield convert, rather than a winger, but you'd need someone with a bit of pace alongside him. Everyone (other than management) seemed to love Jimmy Ryan there, and he couldn't run, was light weight, and not very tall too. What's the difference?
That volley in the first half was unbelievably good technique.
It was him, right?
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Apr 6, 2010 19:56:28 GMT 1
I think he is a similar sort of player to Dirk Kuyt
Not the sort of player you particularly like to see starting week-in week-out, but there should definetly be room in the squad for a player like him
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Post by eclipsechaser on Apr 6, 2010 20:53:15 GMT 1
We would all probably agree that Jake Simpson put in plenty of effort and more pride and passion than we have seen in a while . But whilst that is commendable we are expecting more . That would consist of being able to take opponents on , dribbling , feigning , running at players . We have seen little or next to nothing of this . He seems to be content with just getting the ball and oplaying a very safe pass . Whilst that is what we would expect a defender to do it is not acceptable for a winger or an attacking midfield player . On Saturday even when he recieved the ball with the opponent 5 yards away he would still play a safe backwards pass ! If that scenario doesn't give you an opportunity to run at the defenders , then what does ? Nice lad , but i'm afraid not good enough at this level .
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Post by stfcfan87 on Apr 6, 2010 21:09:40 GMT 1
As I said earlier, he's been more effective than Lewis Neal in the last 2 games. I dare say that Simpson's wages are a damn sight lower than Neal's, and whilst Simpson is a young early 20's player with room to develop, Neal is 28.
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Post by heavenlyshrew on Apr 6, 2010 21:42:05 GMT 1
Young simmo does look a world beater compared to neil.Neil lost control of the ball atleast 3 times yesterday even my nan could of controlled the ball better than him.
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Post by eclipsechaser on Apr 6, 2010 21:44:34 GMT 1
Just because Neal was worse than Jake Simpson it doesn't mean he is good enough to play .
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2010 21:59:34 GMT 1
Loved his attitude, his throw-ins and work-rate.
He faded badly as he has done on every appearance, was managed comfortably by Hunt, put very few decent crosses in, and offers no excitement.
I have no idea how he has been playing ahead of Robinson and Leslie.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2010 22:03:22 GMT 1
However he reminded me of Kaiser Souze getting out-paced by the centre half at Dagenham last season First thing to make me smile on here for a while.
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Post by venceremos on Apr 6, 2010 22:43:49 GMT 1
Simpson's 18 or 19 - looks a promising player for his age. Not every wide midfielder has to be an out and out winger - Ben Davies for example.
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Post by markglasgow on Apr 6, 2010 23:40:58 GMT 1
Gives 100%. No pace to speak off. Doesn't have a trick to beat a man. Prefers to cross from deep.
Am I describing Jake Simpson or David Beckham? Not all wingers have to be speed merchants, hell bent on getting to the by-line.
The lad is a 1st year pro like Andreas and Harry Hooman. Certainly not out of his depth and one of the brighter elements of a poor easter weekend for Salop.
Hope to see him start at Crewe on Sat and be given another year to develop.
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Post by constantinople on Apr 6, 2010 23:57:34 GMT 1
I thought he was dreadful at the start of the season, but has definitely improved since returning from injury. Will be interesting to see what happens if/when his dad gets sacked though...
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Post by stfcfan87 on Apr 7, 2010 1:31:15 GMT 1
Young simmo does look a world beater compared to neil.Neil lost control of the ball atleast 3 times yesterday even my nan could of controlled the ball better than him. Interesting you say that, and as one of Simpson's biggest supporters on here, why is it that if Neal is that poor, does Simpson keep playing him and gives him chance after chance? Neal should have been dropped a long time ago and I don't see what he's done to get his place back, yet Robinson had a lengthy spell in the wilderness and Leslie keeps getting games then being dropped.
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Post by heavenlyshrew on Apr 7, 2010 6:22:32 GMT 1
Young simmo does look a world beater compared to neil.Neil lost control of the ball atleast 3 times yesterday even my nan could of controlled the ball better than him. Interesting you say that, and as one of Simpson's biggest supporters on here, why is it that if Neal is that poor, does Simpson keep playing him and gives him chance after chance? Neal should have been dropped a long time ago and I don't see what he's done to get his place back, yet Robinson had a lengthy spell in the wilderness and Leslie keeps getting games then being dropped. The only thing i can think of is that Neil is amazing in training
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Post by stfcfan87 on Apr 7, 2010 9:48:12 GMT 1
And that is one of the reasons why I'm in the Simpson out camp.
A player who doesn't perform and doesn't appear to do what the manager wants is picked time after time despite other players having done more than him throughout the season who get dropped at every opportunity. Meanwhile the manager publically says reguarly in the media that players aren't performing and there's nothing that he can do about it if they don't listen, yet he could actually make changes and drop neal!
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Post by starlight on Apr 7, 2010 10:28:06 GMT 1
Thought Jake played well on Saturday. Really good volley from outside the box that needed a good save from the Notts keeper. Not sure he's got the skill to regularly beat a full back, but he seems to have a good footballing brain, get's in good positions when play is on the left hand side, i think he will score goals when given a decent run in the team. Can put in good early crosses to, well done.
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Post by DaveG on Apr 7, 2010 10:53:59 GMT 1
Interesting you say that, and as one of Simpson's biggest supporters on here, why is it that if Neal is that poor, does Simpson keep playing him and gives him chance after chance? Neal should have been dropped a long time ago and I don't see what he's done to get his place back, yet Robinson had a lengthy spell in the wilderness and Leslie keeps getting games then being dropped. The only thing i can think of is that Neil is amazing in training A couple of our players have told me how amazing Neal is in training - "Couldn't get near him" being a direct quote from one of our defenders. I genuinely believe that while he is never going to be a world-beater, his performances may come down to confidence issues rather than technical ones.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2010 11:23:15 GMT 1
99% of golfers have a great practise swing Dave but are rubbish when you put a ball infront of them to hit. Perhaps a confidence issue with Neal or maybe he's just someone who can't take the pressure that competitive football brings?
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Post by camdenshrew on Apr 7, 2010 12:39:43 GMT 1
His presence on the pitch summed it up for me. Plenty of endeavour but little creativity or pace - problems which have bedevilled us all season
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Post by prioryshrew on Apr 7, 2010 13:33:58 GMT 1
Lewis Neal made his league debut on 31/03/2001 in the 9 subsequent season he has made 91 starts an average of 10 a year. He might, be in Simpson's opinion, the most skilful player in the squad but at the end of the day it is what happens on the pitch each Saturday that counts. In most fans view Neal has had one good performance (Notts County away) out of 19 starts and 8 sub appearances surely that just isn't good enough. It is the job of the manager to convert the skill on the training ground to the match environment for whatever reason that has not been achieved by Paul Simpson.
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