LufbraSalop
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Post by LufbraSalop on Mar 17, 2004 18:00:58 GMT 1
I was braced for a reaction to last night but nowhere near this scale. We've gone out of a non-league cup that before this season we hadn’t played in or cared about, big deal. We've lost to Telford. I’m sure if we had been in the same league for the last few years we would have lost to them before now. From everyone’s reports it doesn’t sound like we disgraced ourselves, some even saying it was the best we've played all season in the first half. The only real complaints are gripes with tactics, which lets face it are purely speculative. Who’s to say if we would have played 4-4-2 we wouldn’t have lost. We haven’t been playing well, but we're 4th for god’s sake. We have an excellent shot at the play offs and to be calling for the managers head now is madness. I think a fair few of you are not seeing past the name of our opponents last night. It was a tough game against a good team that have beaten 1st division opposition away from home, most if honest will say that Telford played very well last night. Unfortunately your reaction smacks of a little arrogance IMO, after all they’ve invested almost as heavily as we have. As for calling for people to abuse Quinn, what the hell are you on? I saw a comment saying Cramb was enemy No1?!?!? so we shouldn’t bother about our opposition and just shout abuse at our own players? I know Cramb and Lowe are in and out players but to call them enemy No1 is just plain ridiculous. PULL YOURSELVES TOGETHER
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Post by MRJPSHREW on Mar 17, 2004 18:03:57 GMT 1
Who said it the best weve played all season?
Get them a guidedog ;D
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Post by Nickdownthefalklands on Mar 17, 2004 18:05:01 GMT 1
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LufbraSalop
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Post by LufbraSalop on Mar 17, 2004 18:06:37 GMT 1
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Post by El Huracán!!!! on Mar 17, 2004 18:08:47 GMT 1
Best we played all seaon forst half - oh god - you really dont have a foot to stand on mate I hate to say it but it is very easy to make comments like this from afar boys And as usual the fact that this is not just about one game - its all of them apart from poss 3 this season - seems to have been overlooked!! get down and see the team at the moment - you could not say this if you did
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Post by Nickdownthefalkalnds on Mar 17, 2004 18:14:36 GMT 1
Only been down here 3 weeks. Before that had missed Margate away and Exeter, think I've got a good handle on our season.
The point is, sod the FAT, it's the league/play-offs we want.
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LufbraSalop
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Post by LufbraSalop on Mar 17, 2004 18:16:51 GMT 1
Very easy to acuse me of not being a regular but ive been to a fair few poor performances this season, Chester and Stevenage to name a few. Ive also been to some good games which seem to be over looked and from what ive seen (and the stats dont lie) we have a fantastic defence, but i supose thats not down to Quinn? Im sure its just some fluke that weve only conceded 29 goals in 32 games
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Post by Nickdownthefalklands on Mar 17, 2004 18:21:50 GMT 1
Easy there Lufbrashrew, someone will come back with, "Yes but we are in a poor division and we've been lucky that teams haven't punished us" etc Personally I'd like to have seen last seasons defence in this league, we'd have still of conceeded 90 odd .
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Post by El Huracán!!!! on Mar 17, 2004 18:29:30 GMT 1
We will see boys - i hope your right but i cant see it anymore - and come one if you have been to a load of games can you not say this leage is poor??? and Lufbra what were these great games you saw - i will give you one Hereford at home - now name the rest where we played well for 90mins??? Im not having a pop boys i did not know you had seen so many games - i have seen all but a hand full in the last 3 years and some times i wish i had not bothered it hurts so much - hell but i will be back for more punishement on sat
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Post by NewpShrew on Mar 17, 2004 18:33:11 GMT 1
Yes he has sorted the defence out, He plays the same back four to give cosistancy. The rest of the team is changing all the time and formations are switching and we look a sham. First half was rubbish against Telford, but i think we have been poor all season.
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Post by real world on Mar 17, 2004 18:38:30 GMT 1
one question gpricey what, exactly, are you expecting from our conference standard football team, with our conference standard players and our conference manager?
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Post by MRJPSHREW on Mar 17, 2004 18:42:29 GMT 1
That is a fine question that the manager doesnt even know the answer too
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Post by El Huracán!!!! on Mar 17, 2004 18:44:38 GMT 1
Something almost every other CONFERENCE team i have seen against us this season has
Fight, Passion and Commitment
And i dont think another 9 points would have been unrealistic either
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LufbraSalop
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Post by LufbraSalop on Mar 17, 2004 18:48:30 GMT 1
How many have you seen over the last 10 year where we have played the whole 90? not many.
We're conference mate, what do you expect.
And please don’t hit me with the old "these player are on good wages" stuff. They are on mid table 3rd division wages and they aren’t very good, live with it. They aren’t going to produce for 90 minutes, that’s why they’re here.
I think we played well against Farnborough (H), Dagenham (H), Aldershot (A), Woking (A), Sc***horpe (A), Hereford (H), Northwich (H), but who gives a damn, we’ve won 21 matches this season.
I thought we were a great footballing side under Ratcliffe, just shocking at the back. If its a toss up between performance and results I know which id pick but some want BOTH NOW and I think that’s unreasonable seeing as he’s only had 3/4 of a season in charge.
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Post by faginy on Mar 17, 2004 18:48:41 GMT 1
Something almost every other CONFERENCE team i have seen against us this season has Fight, Passion and Commitment that didn't get the 15 teams we've beaten this season very far did it
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Post by El Huracán!!!! on Mar 17, 2004 18:59:12 GMT 1
No but they tried!!! most of them teams would kill for the one player of a bit of class like we have and then let the other 10 in the team try - Cramb or luke would most likely thrie on it!! and Lufbra wheres the progress - is there another team in any leagues (apart from liverpool) who dont know there best 11 and tactic - are we long ball or midfield passers- who knows And as for they are conf players thats why there here - yes agreed they are as much to blame as Quinn but - can i also say that they are still playing players of a lower standard or = even now apart from Chester and Hereford and poss Aldershot and Barnet!!! so whay would wanting 9 more points have been a problem. We have even carried over problems from last season like the abilty to let late goals in - which Quinn should have sorted. Im at a loss mate - i can not see a positive about this season or where we are heading - if we get up good i think yes we would have a chance of staying up but im so so fed up and poorer for it that i cant really say anything good at all sorry if my pesimsit attitude has p**sed you off today but thats the way i feel its going
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LufbraSalop
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Post by LufbraSalop on Mar 17, 2004 19:10:51 GMT 1
I hope its not p**sed off anyone, its natural to feel down after being at a big game and losing, and its your opinion, your entitled to it. Mat Kendrick doesnt seem to have such a negative memory of the match though. "Let's face facts, it was a rip-roaring cup tie that neither side deserved to lose" www.shropshirestar.com/sport/football/publish/article_14377.shtmlFrom the commetary last night and reports in the press today, it sounds like it really could have gone either way. So why are there so many on here who seem outraged by the performance?
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Post by faginy on Mar 17, 2004 19:13:07 GMT 1
From the commetary last night and reports in the press today, it sounds like it really could have gone either way. So why are there so many on here who seem outraged by the performance? that'd be the arrogance
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2004 19:56:04 GMT 1
Vs Chester Lost Vs Barnet Lost Vs Exeter Lost Vs Aldershot Drawn Vs Hereford Won
If you consider the Telford games aa 'big games' as well we've hardly set the World alight in such games.
We've been poor away from home and in the big games so far.
I really hope our problems are sorted out by the time of the playoffs.
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Post by texmexshrew on Mar 17, 2004 20:04:02 GMT 1
and we have those teams in the run in Ant. It begs the question, is the matchday approach to the big games good enough? On the evidence so far its got to be a 'no' . (Please no bleating on about the Hereford game (our one performance this season))
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Post by SeanBroseley on Mar 18, 2004 0:13:52 GMT 1
one question gpricey what, exactly, are you expecting from our conference standard football team, with our conference standard players and our conference manager? 1) maximum use of the resources available. This involves: a) Playing with a bog standard shape game in game out. As you say none of them are world players so there is no point in dicking around with the formation. b) Play a balanced team and don't play them out of position. Again they're not world beaters so why increasing the probability of their putting up a p**s poor performance. 2) Evidence that the players on the park have trained together during the week and are familar with each other's play. 3) Evidence that there is some basic ability there to pass and shoot. These aren't optional extras. That will do for starters.
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Post by El Huracán!!!! on Mar 18, 2004 0:42:27 GMT 1
well said shaun - why now its a day later are we supposed to just forget about it i will be every bit as p**sed off on fiday as i was last night!!!
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Mar 18, 2004 1:54:47 GMT 1
1) maximum use of the resources available. This involves: a) Playing with a bog standard shape game in game out. As you say none of them are world players so there is no point in dicking around with the formation. b) Play a balanced team and don't play them out of position. Again they're not world beaters so why increasing the probability of their putting up a p**s poor performance. 2) Evidence that the players on the park have trained together during the week and are familar with each other's play. 3) Evidence that there is some basic ability there to pass and shoot. These aren't optional extras. That will do for starters. that is all we want!
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