REVAP 2004 as a guest
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Post by REVAP 2004 as a guest on Mar 8, 2004 19:58:28 GMT 1
Know I've asked this question before, but what do people out there want from an Official Supporters Club? What should they be doing in terms of fund raising, events. What would make you join it. Do we need one. If we don't what reasons.
Through the Umbrella Group we are hopefully going to try and raise the profile of the OSC. Initially looking at getting the remnants of the ISC to join and bolster the OSC, and then look at a relaunch.
I've got ideas on how this could work, but need feedback from you guys.
Comments good or bad accepted. Ideas and initatives welcomed
Ant, could you pin this to the top.
Ta
Ade Plimmer
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2004 20:04:05 GMT 1
I appreciate the individual's good work in staffing the players bar, doing the food at youth games etc. but as an organisation I just don't an Official Supporters Club at this club is relevant any more.
The type of access they can provide is now done much better through the club (Whitters/Judy), the fundraising seems to have split itself up and the Umbrella Group can work as a focal point.
Personally, I feel that I have nothing to offer that group that I can't do just as, if not more, effectively through other mediums.
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Post by Mediolanum Shrew on Mar 9, 2004 13:00:32 GMT 1
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Post by skipwithrob on Mar 9, 2004 13:33:37 GMT 1
to run the catering again in the ground.
I and many others are tired of poor quality food at rip off prices.
Incidently do they sell the coco-cola pure mineral water. You know the water that comes out of a tap in Sidcup and costs 10p to produce?
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Post by True_Shrew on Mar 9, 2004 13:41:18 GMT 1
I’m with welshrew on this; I think the way it is currently going the umbrella group is taking in the OSC rather than the OSC growing outwards as an association.
The likes of B&A have taken over as the supporters mouthpiece and there is no longer the reliance on the OSC to feel part of something. My other perception is the OSC is perhaps perceived as a (wait for it) a "clique" and that it's inaccessible to the everyday supporter.
If they want to relaunch the OSC then they need to know there target audience, putting on that motown night will only attract a certain type of person and then making sure that everyone knows what is going on. I'm sure I've heard something about a boxing night but not seen much press on it.
The OSC also needs a presence on the net and to tie up with the ones that already exist but again bridge building needs to be done as a certain member publicly criticised that poor show of other groups and some people don't forget.
TBH Revap, people need incentives to drag them out of the homes and it needs something like an officially sponsored ground clean up in the pre-season to bring all the groups together and to give press to the good work that is done by the OSC.
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Post by shelton on Mar 10, 2004 16:29:06 GMT 1
one question I have is who do I contact with regards to setting up a supporters club in Aberystwyth which has an official link to the club? Is this a role for an official supporters club? i.e supporting & liasing with satellite branch supporters clubs. Or should we get in touch directly with the club? Our group is very small (5) at the moment as we're just a group of mates who drink in the same pub, but there are a few blue & amber shirts around Aber & if we branch out to other Mid Wales towns then the 'club' would grow pretty quickly.
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Post by Mediolanum Shrew on Mar 10, 2004 18:49:39 GMT 1
I think contact the club, but if you want to come under the Umbrella Group let us now.
You may also want to contact Nick Newton at the OSC if you want to become affilated with them.
I know we have branches in places like Sofia, but how or if they are affliated to the OSC I don't know.
email : als_salop@yahoo.co.uk for the Umbrella Group
nick@newcad.freeserve.co.uk for the OSC
Cheers
Ade Plimmer
STFC Umbrella Group Organiser
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Post by Paulk on Mar 10, 2004 22:46:56 GMT 1
I'll be honest in the sense I do not know alot about the OSC - I don't know why but I get the impression they were more important in the 70's/80's when they would help out with things like catering/fundraising/programmes, correct Now football is run more proffesionally and like a business the jobs the OCS used to volunteer for are now fulltime paid jobs such as outside caterers/Commercial Manager etc. A lot of people say they need to get them noticed on the net and although I agree there are alot of Shrewsbury fans on the net, I would imagine the percentage compared to the total fans is quite small. Someone said "The likes of B&A have taken over as the supporters mouthpiece " and yes in a sense this is true, but B&A does not represent the whole of Shrewsbury fans. Im not having a dig at all and know that B&A, ISC, Umbrella Group, ALS & ASFC are closely linked (not a problem at all of course) but there are a lot of fans out there who have no links to these at all. For example out of the group of 10 I normally go, there is only myself who uses this site and none of us have links to the above groups. My point (albeit longwinded ) is a there is a lot of people who only get information on the club from: Radio Shropshire Shropshire Star The Programme Advertisements around town eg Posters in Pubs Simple word of mouth (normally in pubs ) If the OSC want people to become more aware of them I think they need to use the above mediums more succesfully. I don't think getting a page on ShrewsWeb or getting a website will particuarly help. For example the Super Blues club have raised a lot of money for the club but it is very rarely mentioned on here. Idon't want this to come out wrong but what do the OSC do?
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Mar 11, 2004 2:28:44 GMT 1
that is a good balanced post Paul
the strength of B&A is the ability to communicate quickly and effectively and it becomes a daily lifestyle rather than an event once every six months. That is why B&A has grown, and is also why B&A is well represented in other things because we know what is happening, where it is taking place and how to go and take part
I have a mate who is in the OSC who is really annoyed cos he's bought his membership card, no-one has ever contacted him, there is never anything int he programme excpet the infamous Anne Ralphs rant. I told him about the soultrain evening, he doesn't know anyone in the OSC and has never had any contact with anyone in it, and he is a member!
In that same time I have probably met 30-40 people via B&A who I now talk to on Saturdays
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Post by schizo at work on Mar 11, 2004 3:00:01 GMT 1
Couldnt we get a local hotel/B&B/pub to help run the catering? The food at Aggborough is absolutely fantastic, the cottage pies in particular were out of this world, I heard the catering at Kiddy were run by the same folk who owned a local hotel/pub or something like that.
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Post by shelton on Mar 11, 2004 15:39:32 GMT 1
cheers for the info ade
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Post by pawlo on Mar 12, 2004 12:38:23 GMT 1
Agree with Rob and Schizo. I think it would be great and a big advantage to everyone if the supporters club reclaimed the buffett facilities. As Rob says, we are being ripped off at the moment and my experience is, the pies are often not hot.
To pick up on Schizo, there must be local pubs or even bakeries who could help out or take it on as a sideline. Good business for them, good food for me ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by SeanBroseley on Mar 13, 2004 19:42:18 GMT 1
Agree with Rob and Schizo. I think it would be great and a big advantage to everyone if the supporters club reclaimed the buffett facilities. As Rob says, we are being ripped off at the moment and my experience is, the pies are often not hot. Can't happen until the New meadow. Linleys have the contract until then. The commercial group has gone into this in some detail, and there is no margin of improvement on price or range available. Obviously the person who signed this contract on the club's behalf needs a good slap. One other way round it is having a burger van or something outside the ground - would people be up for that? On the point of our welsh fans - I think that we negelct them generally - would should have players forums in places like Welshpool as a matter of course. Who should we take that up with?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2004 0:43:18 GMT 1
Has Ann Ralphs apologised for her comments yet?
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Post by jamo on Mar 15, 2004 0:48:04 GMT 1
I personally would throw my support behind anything that was fan organised and that had no official alligience to the club. I happen to believe that fans of this club have been badly served in the past and are better off when they manage to get themselves together and arrange things for themselves.
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Mar 15, 2004 1:38:59 GMT 1
Has Ann Ralphs apologised for her comments yet? I told Nick and Ralph to their face that what Anne said seriously damaged the OSC and it's credibility with other supporters groups. I said people don'tlike someone using the programme to have a pop at them, and also to slate the umbrella group right at the beginning was out of order. They listended to what I had to say. They said that they all agreed with what Anne wrote, although they would have worded it better They also said everyone having a go at Anne had got far far too personal and unfair, which in some cases was true, although at least it highlighted the level of anger and upset caused
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Post by guest on Mar 16, 2004 1:31:10 GMT 1
Can't happen until the New meadow. Linleys have the contract until then. The commercial group has gone into this in some detail, and there is no margin of improvement on price or range available. Obviously the person who signed this contract on the club's behalf needs a good slap. One other way round it is having a burger van or something outside the ground - would people be up for that? On the point of our welsh fans - I think that we negelct them generally - would should have players forums in places like Welshpool as a matter of course. Who should we take that up with? some good points there chap,but have we really signed a contract that has no definite time span? osc set up a catering point,staff it with friendly volunteers who actually want to help,i'll use it. two young lads had waited their turn, at the leigh game,to get served,on reaching the window the girl said"you will have to join that queue - i'm going" this was just before half-time. do lindleys employ their staff to finish work 5 mins before the rush starts? can the osc set up player/fans forums every where? welshpool is agood suggestion sean,but with our players living further afield we could cover more the tolleys doing ludlow area, chesire based players whitchurch area, b'ham based doing telford etc etc you only have to look on here to see our fans travel from near and far for this club surely contracted players can do the same once in a while. no
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Post by Mediolanum Shrew on Mar 16, 2004 12:53:21 GMT 1
Guest. Can u please e mail your experiences with regards the buffets at the Liegh game to commerce_salop@yahoo.co.uk. We have a commercial group meeting on April 1st. I would like tio bring this point up.
The manager from Lindleys came to one of our meeting and is very concerned over matters liek customer service.
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Post by Mediolanum Shrew on Mar 17, 2004 16:06:59 GMT 1
Thank to everyone who has replied to this.
Ant could you take the pin off now.
Ta
Ade Plimmer
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