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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Mar 23, 2004 18:10:32 GMT 1
It just riles me sometimes when as a nation we demand that other nations should give democracy and freedom of speach to its people, and yet when it comes down to itt we cannot except freedom of speach as a nessesary evil of democracy by banning people with minority views, no matter how abhorent. Sorry Kickin, your argument is totally flawed and is the usual stuff the BNP uses To ban a west indian for his skin colour would be illegal that is utterly different from banning someone for their actions, which are illegal and socially / ethically unacceptable to the users here It is amazing when people demand "free speech" it is really only their own views they want to be free to air. Free speech should not be used to encourage someone else's freedom to be called into question! You should not use democracy to remove someone's right to fairness. You should not use free speech to take away someone else's right to be equal. Cynical Shrew has posted racist, and therefore illegal material on this site which not only offends users but also puts those who run the site in a difficult situation, adn could get the site itself banned as using the site to put forward racist views is banned by Proboards just a thought like? and in the interests of free speech I would like you to respond and challenge my asumptions! PS I know you are not condoning the message of Cynical Shrew, merely his right to air it, and I do understand where you are coming from
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Post by Pilch on Mar 23, 2004 18:12:30 GMT 1
racist posts are not allowed on here and can result in the board being deleted if ignored
I judged his post as a racist one and banned him
i had several requests to ban him after the bnp post but didn't
the blackpool post today was totally unnecessary and obviously an attempt to get everyones back up
for the record i also deleted a post from a HUFC fan today
apparantly he hated us and we should suck rock (well it sounded like rock)
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Post by Theoneandonly on Mar 23, 2004 18:13:28 GMT 1
sick barsteward
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Post by CuyahogaBlue on Mar 23, 2004 18:14:27 GMT 1
I agree with kickin - abhorrent views should not be banned.
I also agree with gpricey - this board is primarily about Shrewsbury football and I think we should, as best we can, keep to topic.
We are not banning free speech - just politely asking that we all keep to topic.
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Post by ianwhit on Mar 23, 2004 18:16:19 GMT 1
coming onto a messageboard you agree to the rules of it, think it says on b&a no racist comments will be tolerated.
if you don't abide by those rules then you would be prepared to get banned.
don't think anyone wants to sit on here all day and discuss race issues with mr cynical but if they do then there's probably somewhere they can do it.
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Post by Theoneandonly on Mar 23, 2004 18:16:21 GMT 1
can we stop this now please?
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Post by kickinpretty on Mar 23, 2004 18:17:58 GMT 1
...well i agree that that kind of ranting is a bannable offence, i had only seen a few postings on here that were within the boundaries of debate, that latest reamrk obviously went to far so i agree with the ban.
However...
TBH, I woulld like an apology, the following statement is bang out of order as far as im concerned - are you accusing me of being BNP?
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Post by MRJPSHREW on Mar 23, 2004 18:18:17 GMT 1
I cant agree more with the previous couple of posts.
he's banned....end of story!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2004 18:18:55 GMT 1
can we stop this now please? I want to write this on the majority of your threads TOAO......
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Post by Pilch on Mar 23, 2004 18:22:53 GMT 1
here are the basic rules, copied & pasted
User's content must comply in a manner consistent with any and all applicable laws of the State of California and the US Federal Government. User's web site may not contain content promoting the use of illegal drugs, alcohol, sex, pornography, nudity, or any other form of adult content, profanity, hate, "spam," fraud, racism, mlm, pyramid schemes, or promote any illegal activity. User's message board and Web site must be in English.
i'm sure we could find examples of most of those rules being broke if we searched but if spotted they are removed
i don't agree with the rule that the board must be in english but i dont make the rules
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Post by Theoneandonly on Mar 23, 2004 18:23:18 GMT 1
I want to write this on the majority of your threads TOAO...... i dont really give a flying toss about what people say to/about me anymore. Not worth the hassle. ps, none of my threads as serious or as debatable as this one FYI.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2004 18:25:15 GMT 1
i dont really give a flying toss about what people say to/about me anymore. Oo-er!
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Post by El Huracán!!!! on Mar 23, 2004 18:25:56 GMT 1
faginy has broke most of the rules himself - hes a walking advert promoting the uses of alcohol Ban him
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Post by Norge on Mar 23, 2004 18:26:00 GMT 1
Pardon, didn't quite hear you Phil
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2004 18:27:38 GMT 1
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Post by Norge on Mar 23, 2004 18:27:59 GMT 1
Become a moderator, you could ban yourself
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Mar 23, 2004 18:28:32 GMT 1
TBH, I woulld like an apology, the following statement is bang out of order as far as im concerned - are you accusing me of being BNP? I apologise if that is how it read, it is not what I think. I know you have nothing to do with the BNP and would never willingly suggest so and so I am sorry that I worded it poorly But it is an argument constantly used by the BNP in order to continue to hide a blatantly racist agenda. It is also an argument used by some islamic extremists to try and propogate their racist views as well, and I don't think you are one of those either! as I said, no offence intended and i'm sorry
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Post by El Huracán!!!! on Mar 23, 2004 18:29:03 GMT 1
Norge - dont go there with him - he will never shut up (any way im the next moderator in waiting ) Your a has been TOAO ;D
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2004 18:29:08 GMT 1
Become a moderator, you could ban yourself LOL!!!!!
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Post by Theoneandonly on Mar 23, 2004 18:29:44 GMT 1
put me out of my misery.
This board is indeed not to my liking, but i'm addicted.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2004 18:30:58 GMT 1
Yep, I agree that he should be Jody'd.
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Post by harmerhillshrew on Mar 23, 2004 18:31:44 GMT 1
Changed your tune TOAO. When I wanted you banned for nicking my photos you got all stressed
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Post by peterjones1 on Mar 23, 2004 18:32:53 GMT 1
Yep, I agree that he should be Jody'd. Is that Welsh rhyming slang that I wasn't party to Gareth Jody Banim- Ban Him, very good
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Post by telfordSHREWS on Mar 23, 2004 18:33:38 GMT 1
He's been banned before Andy he knows what its all about
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Post by Theoneandonly on Mar 23, 2004 18:33:43 GMT 1
Hello Harmerhill! Nah i aint social anymore and this afternoon has put into perspective how much a waste of time this board is. No offense.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2004 18:33:57 GMT 1
'BanHim' (c) Pilch, 2003
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Post by kickinpretty on Mar 23, 2004 18:34:07 GMT 1
Apology accepted.
Freedom of speach is also argued for by Nelson Mandela and other political prisoners.
The arguments run both ways, i believe in freedom of speach with a passion and will defend that right to the last, that does not make me a BNP member, just an advocate of free democracy.
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Post by peterjones1 on Mar 23, 2004 18:35:07 GMT 1
'Why can't we be friends, why can't we be friends...'
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2004 18:36:04 GMT 1
Nah i aint social anymore and this afternoon has put into perspective how much a waste of time this board is. No offense. Na na, na na na na, hey hey hey, GOODBYE, Na na na na, na na na na, hey hey hey, GOODBYE. Everybody join in.........
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Post by Theoneandonly on Mar 23, 2004 18:37:02 GMT 1
no i aint going just letting you know my opinions.
Now leave me be.
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