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Post by Pilch on Mar 23, 2004 13:53:04 GMT 1
i deleted your post and have banned your current ip address
i think the general view on here is that you have had more than enough time to air your political views and they go against the tos of this board sorry.
if you continue to post i will contact j moores uni and ask them to prevent you posting on here
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Post by Bilbo on Mar 23, 2004 13:54:25 GMT 1
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Post by MRJPSHREW on Mar 23, 2004 14:00:32 GMT 1
PUCKA PILCH ;D
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Post by El Huracán!!!! on Mar 23, 2004 14:02:56 GMT 1
2 weeks too late Pilch -you could tell from the start he was just conserned with rasisit views Well done - its a good desision
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Post by Norge on Mar 23, 2004 14:04:47 GMT 1
PUCKA PILCH ;D Charming! Work is done to bring in more smilies by i'm guessing was Pilch. And you still import your own. Shame on you
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Post by MRJPSHREW on Mar 23, 2004 14:16:28 GMT 1
Sorry...wont happen again
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Post by bazeus on Mar 23, 2004 14:48:05 GMT 1
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Post by telfordSHREWS on Mar 23, 2004 15:25:14 GMT 1
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Post by Theoneandonly on Mar 23, 2004 17:24:44 GMT 1
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Post by kickinpretty on Mar 23, 2004 17:35:18 GMT 1
I dont think a ban was the right course of action...his views maybe abhorent to many, but freedom of speach is a fundamental right that is given to every citizen in the UK as a basic right, we may not like peoples views but they need to be answered by well formed arguments and conviction, not by weilding the ban button.
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Post by Theoneandonly on Mar 23, 2004 17:37:28 GMT 1
your right!
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Post by Norge on Mar 23, 2004 17:38:05 GMT 1
< my first avatar!! brings back memorys dont understand the title as if he's banned he wont be able to read it! ;D It only bans posting i think. Not viewing the board.
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Post by El Huracán!!!! on Mar 23, 2004 17:38:55 GMT 1
Not the point kicken - this is a football message board about the town - he came on here starting and changeing the topic of posts from this to Rasist views - on a public message board which people fo all ages can read - and be offended by - He had a warning from Pilch when he movde his thread and told him to behave - it tryed to be rasisit again today with some post about how blackpool should play more "blacks" - an he was removed - so the good of everyone else on the board i belive!!
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Post by Theoneandonly on Mar 23, 2004 17:41:28 GMT 1
It only bans posting i think. Not viewing the board. Stops you viewing the board alltogher Norge lad.
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Post by Norge on Mar 23, 2004 17:42:28 GMT 1
Stops you viewing the board alltogher Norge lad. If true, i stand corrected
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Post by kickinpretty on Mar 23, 2004 17:42:36 GMT 1
Not disputing the content just that as a free society, banning people from debate just because they have a minority view is as bad as banning a west indian from a pub because of his skin colour.
His arguments should have been defeated through reasoned argument and conviction of opinion, not by the ban button.
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Post by Norge on Mar 23, 2004 17:44:07 GMT 1
Not disputing the content just that as a free society, banning people from debate just because they have a minority view is as bad as banning a west indian from a pub because of his skin colour. Sorry, but i don;t agree with that statement whatsoever
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Post by El Huracán!!!! on Mar 23, 2004 17:44:26 GMT 1
He was defeted time after time after time by many like staly, stutty, me and ant problem was he keeps coming back and we have the same argument over and over again and many people were annoyed or offended by it - is that not reason enough? ?? Any way was it you all along kicken?? (im kidding)
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Post by Theoneandonly on Mar 23, 2004 17:46:08 GMT 1
who to side with on this one?
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Post by kickinpretty on Mar 23, 2004 17:48:05 GMT 1
Why?
You are basically saying that it is right to ban somebody because they belong to a minority, cynicalshrew belongs to a minority group and so does a west indian, it is basically the same thing in the greater scheme of things.
Why not debate the issues?
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Post by Theoneandonly on Mar 23, 2004 17:52:09 GMT 1
I'm sick of this debate sorry
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Post by kickinpretty on Mar 23, 2004 17:53:58 GMT 1
Ask to be banned then
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2004 17:54:49 GMT 1
Today his post contained purely racial hatred.
Would it be lawful for someone to post a racist slogan on a banner and hang it on a street in Shrewsbury?
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Post by El Huracán!!!! on Mar 23, 2004 17:56:28 GMT 1
Why not debate the issue - I refer you to a earler answer - this topic of conversation does not belong here, IMO there are several reasons why not least the fact that we dont know each other and we dont know who is offended by this stuff - would you disscuss the defence of rasism in front of a black man
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Post by Theoneandonly on Mar 23, 2004 17:58:17 GMT 1
Pilch, after a odd couple of days on B&A i would like to be banned for the remainder of the week to concentrate on homework and becoming fit/social. Please save me from myself.
Not a joke. See you next week, Geoff.
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Post by kickinpretty on Mar 23, 2004 17:59:17 GMT 1
It just riles me sometimes when as a nation we demand that other nations should give democracy and freedom of speach to its people, and yet when it comes down to itt we cannot except freedom of speach as a nessesary evil of democracy by banning people with minority views, no matter how abhorent.
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Post by kickinpretty on Mar 23, 2004 18:05:46 GMT 1
Im not defending anything the guy has written on here, just the right to freedom of speach, without that we are nothing! Just ask an Iraqi or a North Korean.
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Post by El Huracán!!!! on Mar 23, 2004 18:07:10 GMT 1
If you want to discuss it there are plenty of open message boards for all topics of discussion around - and i dont think Pilch and Ant banning some one we were all generally fed up with is systimatic of the freedoom of speach enjoyed here in general (look at that hook guy from finsbury park - he still preaches) compared to a country like North Korea and Formally Iraq - we have one of the most pround records for freedom of speech - in the modern world even more so than the US -
I think you may have over reacted to this Kickin ;D
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Post by Theoneandonly on Mar 23, 2004 18:07:19 GMT 1
any North Korean or Iraqi people online at the mo?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2004 18:09:00 GMT 1
Kickin, I would argee with you usually.
I argued that his previous posts (in which he was careful to try and avoid making explicit racist remarks) should remain on the boards. They are in the archive now.
But today, he stated that his favourite Lazio player was the guy who called Patrick Vieria a '****ing Black Monkey'. That was enough, and he had to be banned from here in my view.
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