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Post by SeanBroseley on Mar 24, 2004 0:37:59 GMT 1
When a manager is appointed (and his mates) that doesn't mean that the footballing side of the club is something you cannot do anything about.
It's up to you to find out what is wrong, to express what your views are of what is happening on the pitch (you have a right to comment), state what you expect to see, and not to be fobbed off with the answers.
12 months ago we were 21st in the Football League. Tonight we are nine places below that position.
The clock is ticking.
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Mar 24, 2004 0:42:52 GMT 1
King failed
Ratcliffe failed
Quinn is failing
and we ain't got a new ground
Thanks for the last five years, I'm glad I spent them with you...
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Post by shrewforever on Mar 24, 2004 0:53:15 GMT 1
Very glad to see this post and take great satisfaction from the fact that I didnt start it. Not wanting to gloat but posted on here last season with about 8 or 9 games left that they were not being held accountable(who to?)us the true fans,and glad to see questions are being asked of them. Dont forget"good point gained from a good side"(Swansea at home last season)................. people with opinions like that are in charge of our club.. happy with that? ........I'm certainly not.
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Post by El Huracán!!!! on Mar 24, 2004 0:58:21 GMT 1
Still ging backwards - no corner turned and not looking good for the future - a cup run lat year as saved there jobs in my eyes as a loss on top of the performace this season would have left em open to a lot of critism
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2004 1:02:21 GMT 1
Do we have any other budding would be directors waiting in the wings? I don't think so.
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Mar 24, 2004 1:05:21 GMT 1
happy with that? ........I'm certainly not. Shame on you, you bad nasty disloyal fan I am angry right now because I have self respect and I don't deserve this off anyone, let alone an organisation who take hundreds of pounds off me a year
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Post by shrewforever on Mar 24, 2004 1:08:01 GMT 1
Probably not but IMO that is no reason for telling the current incompetent bunch of numpties what we think of them.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2004 1:26:47 GMT 1
Probably not but IMO that is no reason for telling the current incompetent bunch of numpties what we think of them. That's true, but unless they are challenged then they can continue to do as they see fit, no questions asked.
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Post by meoleshrew2 on Mar 24, 2004 1:56:54 GMT 1
You the board have put hundreds of thousands of pounds into the club this year, do you really want to see it all go down the pan, don't wast yours or our time and money on waiting to see if we can get on track it wont happen unless you are brave enough to change the manager now !!
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Post by Dale on Mar 24, 2004 4:06:22 GMT 1
I dont see the point in changing managers now because a new man would have very little time to change things from now until the end of the season, but as said in a earlier post, I would expect him to resign if we dont reach the play offs, which is the minimum requirement expected of the squad this season.
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Post by BelleVueShrew on Mar 24, 2004 4:10:45 GMT 1
But Dale,
If we do make the play offs with Jimmy "Tactical Genius " Quinn in charge we will fail abysmally anyway, as tonight proved only too well.
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Post by Dale on Mar 24, 2004 4:16:52 GMT 1
I agree about the play offs Chris, if JQ went now (which wouldnt bother me one bit) then I would put Chic in charge for the remainder of the season, no point in bringing a new person at this stage really.
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Post by BelleVueShrew on Mar 24, 2004 4:27:51 GMT 1
That or the tea lady mate - couldn't do any worse I'm sure and at least she may have them all drinking from the same cup (pun intended!! )
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Mar 24, 2004 10:57:07 GMT 1
I agree about the play offs Chris, if JQ went now (which wouldnt bother me one bit) then I would put Chic in charge for the remainder of the season, no point in bringing a new person at this stage really. That’s hit the nail on the head our kid...I wouldn't think anyone would be disappointed to see Quinn leave...I suspect there are more and more who would welcome it... Very strange situation with us currently sixth in the table...but I'm with you, I wouldn't be disappointed if he were to leave the club today... ...but you never know lads and lasses...a couple of decent signings tomorrow may turn the season (right midfielder, left midfielder please!!). Lets see who he is able to bring in...I'm sure the board will provide Quinn with the support needed as I'm sure they can see the seriousness of the situation too... Not had the best of records though regarding managers, who have the current board appointed? Is it Jake, Rats and Quinn...that's some hattrick... ;D I think some supporters do tend to underestimate the role of the board, ultimately it is them who determine how well (or bad) the club does...not the manager or the players...
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Post by PeteD on Mar 24, 2004 10:58:22 GMT 1
Chris,Dale..........you or i could pick a team to play football with the players we have and they would do well, why?? because we have some real talent!!!!!!!!!!!
I would love to hear what that prick of a manager says to them to make them soooooo bad, didnt we have a simmlar situation last season with the " why replace him now? and if yes who with" at around about this time when STFC still hads time to turn it round??
My take on this..........Get rid of him and his mates, we have people working at stfc(and have done for years) that IMO could do a better job from there living rooms
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2004 11:15:42 GMT 1
I've lost my rag with Mr Quinn and although now obviously wouldn't be the best time to install a new manager due to the tranfer deadline I am seriously worried about our chances of making the play offs, let alone doing well in them.
One other thing, i wouldn't let Chic any where near the managers job. I'm not doubting he's a nice bloke or a big favourite at STFC but I just don't think he's up to the job
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Post by Shagnasty on Mar 24, 2004 11:29:50 GMT 1
The club under one mans leadership is very poor Two relegations and nothing but hurt for the fans Not a good record for our wonderful Chairman. Between the three now there is no idea. Should we expect leadership from these people, or when things turn bad like last season do we turn a blind eye So i would like to ask: What research did you do into Quinn's background before he was appointed Why allow his unqualified mate a position The appointment of Bates, who sanctioned this Couldn't have been the Chairman after he has privately criticised him Justify why you froze ticket prices now Where are the admission incentives for the fans that were promised Who had the final say in the selection of the new away kit Why again is it only to be on sale before the end of the season if we make the play off final July again Why has the manager not installed the discipline, fitness, players living closer to/in the Town etc promises that were made Thats just the start. Hot air or honest answers please I will not hold my breath.
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Post by PeteD on Mar 24, 2004 11:33:47 GMT 1
Shagnasty whoever you are i am with you on this one
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Post by True_Shrew on Mar 24, 2004 12:30:52 GMT 1
The clock is most defo ticking and the board know it. I've never been a fan of the current regieme but with Quinn coming in and the New Meadow 'around the corner' I thought it would be best to support rather than gripe, but my patience is starting to wear thin.
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Post by SimonR on Mar 24, 2004 12:35:19 GMT 1
Never heard such rubbish in my life! Managing a team for real when you have no qualifications whatsoever is a whole new ball game compared to playing CM4 on your PC in the comfort of your bedroom.
Sacking Quinn befofre the end of the season is not going to improve results at a time when stability is required, nor is calling him names going to make the board act when a level head is required.
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Post by El Huracán!!!! on Mar 24, 2004 12:36:56 GMT 1
I think you ahve all gotta remember that colin pools about - what odds on him owning - being chariman of the club this time next year - getting shorter by the day i reckon!!!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2004 12:37:11 GMT 1
Sorry Simon, but you are unaware of the majority of issues we have with the team.
Unless you've seen Town play 20-30 games this year?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2004 12:38:52 GMT 1
And it scares me s**tless that Colin Poole is getting stronger by the day.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2004 12:54:48 GMT 1
And it scares me sh!tless that Colin Poole is getting stronger by the day. Does he have his own gym
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Post by dejavueshrew on Mar 24, 2004 12:57:11 GMT 1
oh dear here we go again - if we feel like this now what will our feelings be after the next 4 games - HEREFORD- BARNET - EXETER - TELFORD - what is the minimum acceptable points tally from these 4 game ? less than 7 points - heads should roll !!!!! 7/8 the jury is still out 9 or more and we'll be happy again - for a time!!!
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Post by BelleVueShrew on Mar 24, 2004 15:37:30 GMT 1
Sacking Quinn befofre the end of the season is not going to improve results at a time when stability is required, nor is calling him names going to make the board act when a level head is required. So Simon R, you believe we should carry on down this path. To blindly support a guy who despite being qualified to the hilt cannot motivate his players and who has consistently chopped and changed things and not achieved the desired results and performances. You say stability is required? Well I suggest you have a word with our friend JQ and tell him that. A STABLE formation and a STABLE starting 11 (injuries and suspensions allowing of course). You believe sacking Quinn won't improve results? Well naturally there is no proof that it will. But I'll tell you now, carry on as we are and there is every chance we won't make the play offs and little chance if we do that we will win through them as was all to clearly shown up last night.
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Post by SimonR on Mar 24, 2004 15:43:04 GMT 1
Sorry, my response was actually directed to peted (see page 1 of this thread, last post) who seemed to think that any one of the fans could do a better job if put in the hot-seat in replacement of Quinn. Managing in real life isn't easy as he seems to think.
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Post by evothegreat on Mar 24, 2004 16:14:23 GMT 1
I think Jimmy Quinn has an ego alot bigger then our club and far bigger than Kevin Ratcliffes.
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Post by SimonR on Mar 24, 2004 16:17:24 GMT 1
I think Jimmy Quinn has an ego alot bigger then our club and far bigger than Kevin Ratcliffes. What Kevin 'I've always been a winner' Ratcliffe in his endless references to the great escape of 2000?
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