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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2004 23:20:58 GMT 1
After a full-hearted late introduction and a well taken pressure penalty, full participation in the celebrations does anyone still doubt Crambies desire for the club, and he, to do well
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Post by Stue_P on May 4, 2004 23:26:46 GMT 1
I still don't think that he should be here next season.
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Post by Blueshrew on May 4, 2004 23:28:39 GMT 1
if he stops being a baby let him stay
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Post by DiggerDave on May 4, 2004 23:33:34 GMT 1
Crammy s just a bad loser and i don t think thats a bad thing in a player.if things aren t going right he creates a fuss.better to see that than a forward who wins nought and just acccepts that as the norm.
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Post by DiggerDave on May 4, 2004 23:36:06 GMT 1
Remember when Ant missed that peno against the vets. He didn t like and was sulky for a time but hey come on he s a winner through and through and i believe that is the same with Colin Cramb.
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Post by d00bie on May 4, 2004 23:40:01 GMT 1
Hehe, ask Ant next time you see him if he's Colin Cramb in disguise and see what reaction you get
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Post by MRJPSHREW on May 4, 2004 23:42:34 GMT 1
He's asked to leave..has he not?
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2004 23:51:30 GMT 1
Hehe, ask Ant next time you see him if he's Colin Cramb in disguise and see what reaction you get flip off
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Post by mysticmurray on May 4, 2004 23:54:19 GMT 1
Actually, now you mention it, i swear ant was moaning with a slight scottish drawl the other day...
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Post by gingashrew on May 5, 2004 1:50:07 GMT 1
Goodbye and goodluck Cramby.
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Post by Jonah on May 5, 2004 8:58:02 GMT 1
Unbelievable you lot. So what he has had a sulk. The man is an obvious a talent we are sorely missing up front. Lukey ran himself into the ground with very little support. Dont want to have a go at any player after a result like that but it was obvious that DD was not in the game and should have been replaced by CC far earlier.
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Post by aleix on May 5, 2004 9:30:30 GMT 1
If we go up, Colin will be a major asset for STFC next season. He's a player with a winning attitude, and that's Ok for me. Ok he'll sulk and get frustrated but a player that's a bad loser can also be positive
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2004 9:47:21 GMT 1
A lot will depend on what JQ can get out of him and I'm not convinced he can get the best out of Cramb, like the previous 18 managers Cramb has had.
Cramb is not going to be guaranteed a first team place - can he deal with this? He'd certainly be an asset to any club who can get the best out of him, but who, if anyone, is that club?
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2004 10:11:56 GMT 1
Agreed Ant- strange thing is he may be more use to us in Div 3 where he would not get outjumped, outfought and so frustrated- he is at his most effective when he is running at people.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2004 10:16:42 GMT 1
His attitude was spot on. Chased everything (which is what the game called for), won headers and created a chance.
And his penalty very nicely.
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Post by El Huracán!!!! on May 5, 2004 10:24:11 GMT 1
Never forgiven - to many mistakes and bad attitude this season - so what if he now turns it on for what was it 15 minutes!!!!!
Hope and think he will go!
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Post by john on May 5, 2004 14:39:59 GMT 1
Cramb can't/won't tackle and is a lazy good for nothing prick. I would have kicked him out of the club after the Gravesend game.
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Post by faginy on May 5, 2004 14:41:44 GMT 1
Cramb can't/won't tackle and is a lazy good for nothing prick. I would have kicked him out of the club after the Gravesend game. and that is why you are not a football manager
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Post by BringBackAuzzie on May 5, 2004 14:52:29 GMT 1
Cramb out. He's a big lazy baby. All season everyone has been saying he's got "undoubted class" but I'd like to see him show it once in a while. And why do people think he would be any better in the third. It is just as much of a physical division as the Conference in which he will be as misfire as this season (Promotion pending!)
And if you give the finger to the riverside you can fcuk off in my opinion.
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Post by BurbageShrew on May 5, 2004 14:56:00 GMT 1
I agree with BringBackAuzzie. Chance of glory and he puts in a bit of effort (for the first time in a long while).
As for giving your own supporters the middle finger, out of order. If he can't take a bit of deserved criticism he's in the wrong profession. Darby wasn't the most popular player at the start of the season but he knuckled down and proved his worth.
No forgiveness from me
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Post by El Huracán!!!! on May 5, 2004 14:59:17 GMT 1
Base your opinians on one of the following
A) Generally a season of misfiring and poor sulky play
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b)15 mins of decent play - when all aldershot players were knackered and made him look quick, and he still did not have a chance!!!
hummm i think i will continue to base my opinians on cramb on the first of the options
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2004 15:12:48 GMT 1
Base your opinians on one of the following A) Generally a season of misfiring and poor sulky play or b)15 mins of decent play - when all aldershot players were knackered and made him look quick, and he still did not have a chance!!! hummm i think i will continue to base my opinians on cramb on the first of the options Pricey - out of the last 5 games and first 10 games of DD's STFC career, how many do you think he played well in?
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Post by dachs on May 5, 2004 15:22:48 GMT 1
No-one doubts he has flaws, but I think he should stay. So what if he gave the finger to the riverside? (I was in the section booing at the time) Maradona might have done the same, while Phil Neville wouldn't have. You can't base these decisions on things like that. Besides, a suspect temperament makes better viewing.
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Post by El Huracán!!!! on May 5, 2004 15:23:35 GMT 1
Define well, its subjective - I think he has had 5-7 average game this season but not one where he stoped working and did not a least work his ass off for the 90 minutes Gaz early this week you said you thought that Cramb did more in 15 mins than Darby did in the the whole game and 1st half of extra time!!!! Tell me you were kidding
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2004 15:27:59 GMT 1
Define well, its subjective - Gaz early this week you said you thought that Cramb did more in 15 mins than Darby did in the the whole game and 1st half of extra time!!!! Tell me you were kidding Pricey - check the video. Neutrals I spoke to on Monday confirmed it. Whilst they noted that he puts himself about a bit (and I am keen on his effort - I want him to succeed - really I do!), they thought he played poorly and was left out of our attacks. His touch at the moment is shocking. But he might just be the man a week on Sunday - although so may Colin Cramb. As for 5-7 average games? Come off it!
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Post by dachs on May 5, 2004 15:32:41 GMT 1
For once I must agree, Darby was not impressive on Monday. He's not fast, he doesn't have a good touch, he's not tall, he doesn't win many headers, and he's not particularly creative. I like Duane, I really do, but I think that Jimmy needs to ensure some serious competition for that shirt next season, either through backing Cramb or bringing in someone else on a free.
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Post by El Huracán!!!! on May 5, 2004 15:45:14 GMT 1
The first toutch on that Volley was poor - and remind me what Cramb did when he came on outside of a good first touch
I have watched the vid back and just for starts there was a class through Ball for luke in the first half – the move that lead to loews chance to win in at the end was from a Darby ball, So many occasions where he chased the ball down and stopped (with luke) play from even reaching the Defence and thus releaveing the pressure. It’s the work out side of attacking that most overlooked – the defence have less to do the, his hight helps in the box, the links with the midfield ok and best of all Luke likes playing with him – he said it on the radio last night – he like the link up and they travle together
All season we have complained about lukes form and ion the last 7-10 games ha seems back – mostly to do with a settled partnership, which has a) been working and b) he is enjoying. Darbys been laying chances on for luke and being less selfish
All I can say is look beyond what you expect a forward to do – a cramb or a Darby and just look at the work and the unseen stuff that Darby does. I know nobody wants him to fail at this important stage and hopefully he will not
One thing I know hes got a better chance of winning the playoff than cramb as he will start
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2004 16:09:07 GMT 1
his hight helps in the box, Wish it helped up front.......
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Post by El Huracán!!!! on May 5, 2004 16:11:13 GMT 1
Did you go to Fanbourough, headed Goal or barnet away - or Barnet away in the Playoffs - where the keeper made a wonder save ect - he is not a bad header of the ball when putting it on goal but then when you have players of the class of Lowe crossing that is a rarety that he ever sees a ball in the box he can head
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Post by DiggerDave on May 5, 2004 16:29:15 GMT 1
Wonder save my arse !!!!!!! Duane Darby missed an open goal with that header away at Barnet in the 1st leg.4 yards out,all the goal to aim at,no defenders on him and he puts it straight at the keeper.not 6 inches to the one side of him, straight at him.
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