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Post by Shrews and Royals on Apr 28, 2005 15:26:57 GMT 1
by GP......
“Nobody expects Shrewsbury to do anything. We’re just a stop off on the A5 with no history, no tradition, and no past. But we have the chance of making the future”.
A positive or a negative comment from a supporters point of view?
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Post by Shrews and Royals on Apr 28, 2005 15:27:41 GMT 1
I'll explain why I want to know later!
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Post by WindsorShrew on Apr 28, 2005 15:31:00 GMT 1
I think he is looking at it from someone else's perspective, that is probably the way other people do view us.
Lets face it people remember the Everton game but not the years we spent in the old 2nd Div.
Finally it has to be positive because the word "we" implies GP and STFC together in the future....
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Post by watfordshrew on Apr 28, 2005 15:31:44 GMT 1
I think it would be fairer to say although we do have a proud past, tradition and history others believe us to be
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Post by meoleshrew2 on Apr 28, 2005 15:34:47 GMT 1
Thats how lots of people see us, but positive comment
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Post by scooter on Apr 28, 2005 16:25:58 GMT 1
by GP...... “Nobody expects Shrewsbury to do anything. We’re just a stop off on the A5 with no history, no tradition, and no past. But we have the chance of making the future”. A positive or a negative comment from a supporters point of view? If he said that he's got a bloody cheek I assume someone else has said something similar about another club ?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2005 16:28:40 GMT 1
"no history, no tradition, and no past"
That's rubbish, but the rest I would agree with.
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Post by MartinB on Apr 28, 2005 16:58:10 GMT 1
Sounds more like a description of KFC Tinpot to me.
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Post by skunkie on Apr 28, 2005 17:07:41 GMT 1
GP has a case of P@ssing on his chips syndrome again,if he is going forward as our new manager talking down the club,the area and its fans he has a duty to start to be more posative,not impressed...again.
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Post by peterjones1 on Apr 28, 2005 17:09:31 GMT 1
I think everyone has totally missed the point here to be honest Is the clue not in the 'WHAT IF this was said...' bit?
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Post by islay malt on Apr 28, 2005 17:17:55 GMT 1
In all honesty, I have to say that a large numer of fans nationwide would not disagree with those comments. Not in any nasty way, but that's just how it would be perceived, on first consideration.
I do believe, though, that if it was then pointed out the number of scalps you've claimed, over the years, in the cup (not just Everton) and how well you performed for a few years, in what is now the championship, people would say "Oh yea. Never thought of that".
It's just that Shrewsbury are not high profile, nationaly, and until reminded, people just don't 'click' as to how well you have done in the past.
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Post by CuyahogaBlue NLI on Apr 28, 2005 17:19:02 GMT 1
What IF My guess, somebody in/at Reading was making a comment regarding Reading and moving to the Premiership. Change A5 to A4.
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Post by skunkie on Apr 28, 2005 17:22:00 GMT 1
What if Shrews and Royals was Jimmy Quinn.
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Post by rob on Apr 28, 2005 17:35:17 GMT 1
Is Steve Coppell making his excuses already in case of failure to gain promotion?
I'd laugh and ask what XYZ FC were famous for...
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Post by lazyshrew on Apr 28, 2005 18:09:12 GMT 1
Come on then Shrews and Royals - reveal
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Post by Shrews and Royals on Apr 28, 2005 20:32:27 GMT 1
Quoting Steve Coppell this week..... “Nobody expects Reading to do anything. We’re just a stop off on the M4 with no history, no tradition, and no past. But we have the chance of making the future”. Reading as a place is steeped in history, the club a founder member of the football league formed in 1871. They may not have played at the top flight or won the FA Cup, but have a few championships behind them, and two great football records in the number of wins from the start of a season, plus length of time without conceeding a goal. While others may view the club in that way, I am a little miffed that the Reading manager says that about his/my club. IMO it shows a total lack of knowledge of the place/club. Interesting to see how others would feel..
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Post by youngestshrew on Apr 28, 2005 20:36:34 GMT 1
Making excuses just in case he doesnt get promoted i think!
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Post by meoleshrew2 on Apr 28, 2005 20:37:37 GMT 1
To me it looks like a lets show'em speech, its us against the rest. Better way of doing it than that though.
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Post by scooter on Apr 28, 2005 20:45:13 GMT 1
Reading as a place is steeped in history, the club a founder member of the football league formed in 1871. I can't believe a manager saying that, but I also don't think Reading were founder members of the Football League - in fact I am sure they weren't. Sorry to be pedantic ;D
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Post by Shrews and Royals on Apr 28, 2005 21:09:04 GMT 1
I can't believe a manager saying that, but I also don't think Reading were founder members of the Football League - in fact I am sure they weren't. Sorry to be pedantic ;D Be pedantic - I don't mind I meant when the poor Southerners were allowed to join in the fun the cliquey Midlanders and Northerners had kept to theirselves! How many clubs are older than Reading that currently play in the league? Stoke City and Notts County yes, none in the South of England certainly. I'm glad you found it a bit off that a manager say that too!
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Post by handsoffmeadowenjoyment on Apr 28, 2005 22:12:22 GMT 1
i think your man has a point.i have tried to think of anything to do with reading and only managed 3 things 1 the ballad of reading jail 2 reading festival 3 biscuits(and thats only from what i know about the club) i dont even know if reading is a town or city,i would guess at a town.
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Apr 28, 2005 22:23:03 GMT 1
'No ones like sus, we don't care' is a brilliant motivational technique
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Post by Shrews and Royals on Apr 29, 2005 9:05:05 GMT 1
i think your man has a point.i have tried to think of anything to do with reading and only managed 3 things 1 the ballad of reading jail 2 reading festival 3 biscuits(and thats only from what i know about the club) i dont even know if reading is a town or city,i would guess at a town. I don't have time for a long list but some notable extras about the Town of Reading. In 1121, King Henry I lay the foundation stone of Reading Abbey, and it become one of the richest and most powerful in the land. It is now his resting place and one of the few places outside of the Capital to have a King of England buried. The great Abbey was dissolved, by order of Henry VIII, in 1539, and its last Abbot, Hugh Cook Faringdon, was martyred in front of the Abbey Gate after one of the longest stand offs during the dissoultion of the monasteries. He is about to become a Saint, one of the few English ones. Of particular importance to B&A readers (your thanks are awaited...) Malting - Reading supplied Barley to London and played a large part in the development of the brewing industry, especially the expansion of the firm of H. & G. Simonds, who were to invent "I.P.A." (India Pale Ale), which they supplied to the Army in India. Simonds later became part of Courage.Sutton’s, the seedsmen, were able to use the railways to send their seeds all over the country – and eventually across the world. The firm was established in 1807, and eventually its premises stretched from The Forbury to Abbey Square. The trial grounds, by the railway coming in from London, made a colourful entrance to Reading for many years. Douglas Bader lost his legs at the small airfield in Woodley. Of course today it's probably the IT centre of the country. Bulbs, Beer and Biscuits.....where would you be without Reading!
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Post by alecwillis on Apr 29, 2005 9:23:39 GMT 1
Hereford has a buried King of England, the world's largest cider mill, the worlds largest container for storing alcoholic drink, the Mappa Mundi, Nell Gwynne, Graham Turner's retirement hobby,
Shame they haven't got a Football League team
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Post by Dicky Knee on Apr 29, 2005 9:34:55 GMT 1
i think your man has a point.i have tried to think of anything to do with reading and only managed 3 things 1 the ballad of reading jail 2 reading festival 3 biscuits(and thats only from what i know about the club) i dont even know if reading is a town or city,i would guess at a town. ...And after Maurice Evans was sacked by Shrewsbury, in the 70's, for being an appalling manager, he went to Reading (who were then in the old 4th div I believe), got them promoted, and laid the foundations of the team which then went onto the higher glories and developed over the years into the "premiership outsiders" of today.
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Post by rob on Apr 29, 2005 10:31:47 GMT 1
thought the only reason they've developed over the last 10 years+ is because John Madjeski (sp?) built a new ground with facilities which help finance the club??? Oh and one cant underestimate the small part Alan Pardew played
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Post by Dicky Knee on Apr 29, 2005 10:52:35 GMT 1
...but if Reading were still floundering in the bottom division then John Madjeski probably wouldn't have invested in them. it's a shame we couldn't have found our own "John Madjeski" back in the 80's.
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Post by rob on Apr 29, 2005 10:55:24 GMT 1
He's a local man, also had a couple of lecture theartres named after him on campus which he has obviously funded, and now he has plans to complete change the railway station area.
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Post by Shrews and Royals on Apr 29, 2005 11:10:28 GMT 1
thought the only reason they've developed over the last 10 years+ is because John Madjeski (sp?) built a new ground with facilities which help finance the club??? As GP if you think that's true! He was one of Maurice Evans squad. Dixon, Webb, Sanchez, Wood all 1st division players from the same Evans era - three of them internationals. Senior, Horrix et al pre- JM. 1978-79 Div 4 champions under Evans, 1985-86 Div 3 Champions under Branfoot. (recognise those years!) 1988 Simod Cup winners and relegated to Div 2. All pre-JM. Record under JM since 1990 Champions Old Div 2 1993-94. Relegated to Old Div 2 1997-98. Promoted 2001-2 to Old Div 1. There is a wrong impression that money was flooded into the club for players and JM has purchased "success". SH knows how much was raised by selling a good team that lost to Bolton - he came in after the sales. The squad cost £260K and was sold for something close to £4.8 Million. That helped part fund the ground, together with the sale of the club, purchase of the new site from the council for just £1 (yes, you read that right!), and replace some players with half the money. JM put up some money for the ground development that is in his name stilll - not given to the club funds. He is VERY reluctant to spend money - note the Goater situation this year. That £50K may have cost us the play offs or better.
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Post by scooter on Apr 29, 2005 11:53:57 GMT 1
Maurice Evans may not have been ready to be a manager when he over here, but he was an excellent coach from all accounts
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