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Post by SeanBroseley on Apr 9, 2005 13:40:13 GMT 1
Thank you once again to the excellent WSC for providing a website that provides useful information. We'll stand more chance of having office units built at Oteley Road than terracing in the ground, but people will still want to stand up. If there is going to be some forward thinking and planning on this subject then its going to come from us the fans: www.standupsitdown.co.uk/
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Post by rob on Apr 9, 2005 13:45:19 GMT 1
Its ilegal
but the club could take efforts to avoid problems by allocating part of a stand, or a stand behind one of the goals,
This stand could be open to regulars who like to sing/stand, this would create an atmosphere as the singing people would be together, whilst it would also prevent arguments as the people who wish to sit could sit in different sections of the ground and not havbe their views obstructed.
Will probably never happen, because even if the club agreed, which they probably wouldnt, the police would more than likely object.
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Post by SeanBroseley on Apr 9, 2005 13:56:18 GMT 1
For a couple of dozen times a year I like getting in touch with my inner moron. I do this better standing up than sitting down. In fact I rarely sit down even though I usually watch my football from the family stand.
What struck me about this website is that its approach took the confrontation out of the issue, and put to the forefront something that is often passed over in modern society - personal choice and liberty. In this context that is personal choice and liberty of people who prefer to sit down as well as those who prefer to stand up.
Worthy of some support I would have thought.
Yes I agree with the issue regarding the police boneheadedness and in a situation where having a small drum in the ground becomes a safety issue there isn't much room for optimism, but if you hang in for the long-term you can grind out a result in the most unpromising of circumstances.
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Post by WindsorShrew on Apr 9, 2005 13:56:41 GMT 1
I think virtually everyone who sits at a football match will stand for fluctuating periods of time anyway. It is a natural reaction (ie we do it without thinking) when our team attacks, scores or we disagree with an event on the pitch. So perhaps the people making these rules could define "standing" if they allow standing in front of a seat and some clubs allow this for 90minutes then why not behind a barrier ? Agree with the forward thinking coming from the fans, if we feel strongly about standing then we should let the club know and to what extent in terms of numbers. A rough estimate would be 60% in favour of standing minimum, that percentage would make any political party pay the matter some attention, and hopefully so would the Club.
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Post by meoleshrew2 on Apr 9, 2005 13:57:19 GMT 1
As long as i'm sitting at the front I couldn't give a flying......................
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Post by PorkyShrew on Apr 9, 2005 13:58:13 GMT 1
As long as i'm sitting at the front I couldn't give a flying...................... aeroplane?
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Post by meoleshrew2 on Apr 9, 2005 14:03:16 GMT 1
No can't use aeroplane, could be mistaken for a dangourus weapon ;D Question, do you have to stand to sing because you have to use the sitting part of the anatomy
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Post by The Shropshire Tenor on Apr 9, 2005 14:05:32 GMT 1
Looks like an attempt at a good old British fudge-up compromise to me.
IMO standing in front of seats is both uncomfortable and dangerous. The terrace is not wide enough, your seat cuts into the backs of your legs and there is a danger of tripping over the back of the seat in front of you. Also it's not possible to move around properly.
There is no subsitute for a terrace designed to stand on.
Although I'm in favour of standing I doubt whether I will support this campaign, although some good arguments in favour may help to change my mind.
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Post by SeanBroseley on Apr 9, 2005 14:09:34 GMT 1
IMO standing in front of seats is both uncomfortable and dangerous. The terrace is not wide enough, your seat cuts into the backs of your legs and there is a danger of tripping over the back of the seat in front of you. Also it's not possible to move around properly. Where have you experienced that Dave? My seat always flips up leaving an area that more comfortably accomodates me than when I am sitting down. I don't see the dangerous angle to standing up in these situations at all - what are the dangers?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2005 14:11:02 GMT 1
Luton. An absolute nightmare of a place. Whether you are sitting down or standing in front of the seats there just isn't enough room and it is very uncomfortable.
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Post by The Shropshire Tenor on Apr 9, 2005 14:20:40 GMT 1
Where have you experienced that Dave? quote] The Britannia for a start, bit of a domino effect during the shoot out meant I landed on the back of the row in front. Most all seaters I've been in don't have enough room to stand comforably in front of the seat. I'm writing with the perspective of somone nearer 60 than 50 and not as nimble as I used to be
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Post by SeanBroseley on Apr 9, 2005 14:24:55 GMT 1
And I'm writing as someone who is over 6ft 2ins. Sitting down in the sponsors seats at the Gay Meadow was made viable only because I had no one sitting on either side of me.
Where abouts in the Britannia were you Dave?
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Post by PorkyShrew on Apr 9, 2005 14:26:55 GMT 1
i stood for most of the game at stoke, and i was fine, i have always stood at seated stadiums and never had problems.... i dont understand what the problem is, you have to stand up to let people past so that means in fact two people can stand in the space of one seat.....
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Post by meoleshrew2 on Apr 9, 2005 14:29:12 GMT 1
Have to say your stuffed if you have long legs at Stoke, H cut her knees on the back of the seat in front. Found the same problem at Walsall too
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Post by SeanBroseley on Apr 9, 2005 14:30:10 GMT 1
Luton. An absolute nightmare of a place. Whether you are sitting down or standing in front of the seats there just isn't enough room and it is very uncomfortable. I would nominate Cheltenham's main stand from a sitting down point of view.
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Post by blueandamber on Apr 9, 2005 14:31:31 GMT 1
i stood for most of the game at stoke, and i was fine, i have always stood at seated stadiums and never had problems.... i dont understand what the problem is, you have to stand up to let people past so that means in fact two people can stand in the space of one seat..... Totally agree, it's easier to sing standing up too, when you are sitting down your lungs are 'squashed' to a certain extent, when you are standing up it allows more air to get into your lungs thus making its easier to sing :-) i think
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2005 14:36:42 GMT 1
i stood for most of the game at stoke, and i was fine, i have always stood at seated stadiums and never had problems.... i dont understand what the problem is, you have to stand up to let people past so that means in fact two people can stand in the space of one seat..... Try Highfield Road, Coventry (ok, it's only got two games left till it's levelled). It's very uncomfortable when people come past. You either have them tread on your toes or you have the chair dig into the back of your leg.
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