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Post by wiganshrew2 on Apr 7, 2005 13:18:11 GMT 1
I was listening to Radio Shropshire this lunchtime. (Bang goes my "street cred" - not that I ever had any !!!!) Keith Middleton was having some people on a 'phone in competition and one said "Up the Villa" Someone else said, "Up the Wolves!" Then he had a guy on who said he wasn't particularly interested in Football. Keith asked what team he WOULD support if he did support anyone and he said, quite vehemently, "Shrewsbury Town of course- support my local team!! " The guy was NOT amused when Keith remarked how many local people support Man-Ure!!! He thought that was a bad thing- people should support their LOCAL team! Just goes to show (take note shrewsTRUST) there IS a lot of feeling for Shrewsbury Town based on local loyalty, even by people who are not really into Football. They could be persuaded to support their local team by some means. I know not everyone approves of lotteries..etc.. but Hospices do them. Round here- the local Rugby teams do them- and planty of people join in who are not real supporters, they do it because it's local. Local pride is out there- it may be worth while tapping into it, if the end result is funds for STFC. Dave (TBH) is BRILLIANT at slogans- he could dream up a slogan that will be widely exhibited in Shrewsbury and will stir up feelings of local pride- and make people aware of how local pride means supporting your local Football Team!!!
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Post by JP NLI on Apr 7, 2005 13:34:04 GMT 1
That Keith Middleton is a knob, a couple of weeks back he was running a comp for spme tickets for something or other and the idea was to grovel and plead why you should have them more. He had this yam yam fan from Shrewsbury giving it we are'nt doing that well in the league and it would be easier to go to watch STFC. Middleton said why would you want to watch that lot , their useless.
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Post by pawlo on Apr 7, 2005 13:47:29 GMT 1
That Keith Middleton is a knob, Feeling in a phylisophical mood today JP Thing about Shrewsbury Wiggy, as im sure you know, is that the people are apathetic to the point of coma. You are right, there is a lot of untapped support and good will in the "county" for STFC, as we can see every time we get a big game. People come out and support. People who think that the Gay Meadow is a rather dodgy night club, suddenly start wearing blue and amber. A good example. Around 3500 questionnaires where returned ( i think ) regarding the future of STFC at Gay Meadow. Simply tick a box and pop in the post. Yet 15000 people qued for tickets and made their way 30 odd miles to watch and support the Town at Stoke. Its bizzarre. The big question is, how do we get the people of Shrewsbury out of their Coma. Great post by the way
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Post by john on Apr 7, 2005 13:55:35 GMT 1
Feeling in a phylisophical mood today JP Sort of Had the the thread been started by a male member then I might of had to use ****** or !!!!!!!!!, so Knob was very mild
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Post by wiganshrew2 on Apr 7, 2005 13:59:14 GMT 1
That Keith Middleton is a knob, a couple of weeks back he was running a comp for spme tickets for something or other and the idea was to grovel and plead why you should have them more. He had this yam yam fan from Shrewsbury giving it we are'nt doing that well in the league and it would be easier to go to watch STFC. Middleton said why would you want to watch that lot , their useless. grrrrrrrrrrrrrr Well- Radio Shropshire should give Keith Middleton his marching orders then!!! Why should he work for a Shropshire Radio station and he puts OUR Football Club down like that! (I didn't hear it- only heard today's comments) But the guy who came on who wasn't particularly into Football, still said he's support Shrewsbury if he WAS into Football. It ties up with what I've found when I'm going home from Matches and people stop me and ask how Town get on- or they lean out of cars and yell it! I know it's frustrating that they don't come to watch us BUT there's a lot of that around. The bottom line is, like that guy, loyalty and local pride means you want your local team to win- and to succeed and develop and keep afloat. I was a "gradual conversion" so I know it can be done. Look at me now- I've got as severe a case of that dreadful affliction known as "Shrewsbury Town-itis" as anyone- I'm almost obsessed- and certainly fanatical!! So- rather than put people off by making them feel bad for not going to matches- I'd say it's worth while tapping into local pride- pushing those buttons. Who knows where it might lead? They might decide they like us and come and see? If nothing else, if we can get some funds in, it all helps.
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Post by meoleshrew2 on Apr 7, 2005 14:01:56 GMT 1
New Meadow for starters Pab, I have a brother who would rather Support Liverpool than go to the GM, he has only become interested in the great game a few years ago, he made one visit to the GM said its a ******dump I'm not paying money to stand/sit in there, so when the NM is built his sister and mother will be waiting for him to come to his senses and become all things STFC, whether we like it or not, the disease we have on here on B&A does not tranmit itself enough to some who are happy to go to a Stadium like the Britannia but not to the GM, if we want them then we have to give them both, the stadium and a match winning promotion chasing team.
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Post by wiganshrew2 on Apr 7, 2005 14:12:30 GMT 1
Thing about Shrewsbury Wiggy, as im sure you know, is that the people are apathetic to the point of coma. You are right, there is a lot of untapped support and good will in the "county" for STFC, as we can see every time we get a big game. People come out and support. People who think that the Gay Meadow is a rather dodgy night club, suddenly start wearing blue and amber. A good example. Around 3500 questionnaires where returned ( i think ) regarding the future of STFC at Gay Meadow. Simply tick a box and pop in the post. Yet 15000 people qued for tickets and made their way 30 odd miles to watch and support the Town at Stoke. Its bizzarre. The big question is, how do we get the people of Shrewsbury out of their Coma. I think they're like that EVERYWHERE, actually. They certainly are around here! The thing is people post flyers about the local Rugby Teams lotteries ..etc.. and a lot of people get drawn into that. What was different about Stoke? It was something special. The WHOLE TOWN made it special, didn't they? Many of the shops, everything! SO- the minute we know we're SAFE in the league, we need a big celebration at the Meadow AND elsewhere- and make sure there's HEAPS of publicity. If we were allowed to do it, wouldn't it be great to walk through town with banners and things!!!! Do what adverts do- they CREATE a need, or tap into things. (Sometimes it's bad things they tap into- insecurities. I don't approve of THAT sort of advertising! I had a book called "The Hidden Persuaders" - rivetting stuff- it's an oldish book, but the strategies advertisers use still apply!) You make people feel proud to be a Salopian and to live in Shrewsbury- then tap into that!! If all else fails- send them to live in Wigan for a while. That'll have them declaring they're Shrewsbury till they die!!! Worked for me didn't it?!!!! (And I live in a the green belt area of Billinge- not in the worse part of Wigan!!!)
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Post by pawlo on Apr 7, 2005 14:15:07 GMT 1
New Meadow for starters Pab, I have a brother who would rather Support Liverpool than go to the GM, he has only become interested in the great game a few years ago, he made one visit to the GM said its a ******dump I'm not paying money to stand/sit in there, so when the NM is built his sister and mother will be waiting for him to come to his senses and become all things STFC, whether we like it or not, the disease we have on here on B&A does not tranmit itself enough to some who are happy to go to a Stadium like the Britannia but not to the GM, if we want them then we have to give them both, the stadium and a match winning promotion chasing team. Agree to a certain extent, stoke is a nice ground and the meadow is a dump but i have to wonder how many of the people who went to stoke wouldnt have bothered going if the final had been played at a less prestigious location. NM will help, but i cant agree it is a dominant factor as sell outs against chelsea and everton showed. Just makes me want to grab the town by the scruff of the neck and shake them REALLY hard. How do you generate pride, you involve people so when something good happens, people can sit back and think "yes, thats partly because of me". So to my mind, the key to getting the town involved in STFC is give them a good team and open the club up to its supporters so the town has "ownership" of STFC.
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Post by MeoleShrew NLI on Apr 7, 2005 14:26:48 GMT 1
Yep they do come when we have a big team in town, but do they come to support us against the big team or just to see the stars. I suppose its years of us supports being portrayed as lager swilling brick throwing louts that still sticks, every now and again when say the Swans visit, the police presense, what does that say to people, who see police van after van, its an image thing, for years my mother didn't think it was safe, the Swans game gave her a fright, its that part of local football that still lingers that puts the undecided off. It is several factors, loosing our League status certainly brought some back who it for granted, to keep them coming back will take a good amount of PR, which will be left to shrewsTRUST as the club and PR just don't get on. (Whitters the exception)
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2005 14:29:53 GMT 1
I personally think, probabaly like the majority of people on here do that you should support your local side.
If more people supported their local teams instead of supporting premiership sides than grass-roots football is in this country would probabaly be much better and less teams would be in financial trouble.
However, think back to when you were younger, before you started following the town. If someone had offered you a ticket to see either Shrewsbury at the Meadow or Man Utd/Liverpool/Villa at Old Trafford/Anfield/Villa Park - who would you have chosen?
I'll be honest, I'd have probabaly chosen the premier league match.
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Post by wiganshrew2 on Apr 7, 2005 14:31:30 GMT 1
How do you generate pride, you involve people so when something good happens, people can sit back and think "yes, thats partly because of me". So to my mind, the key to getting the town involved in STFC is give them a good team and open the club up to its supporters so the town has "ownership" of STFC. THAT is absolutely true!!! People SO like to be needed and to feel that THEY have personally made a difference. However small the contribution, to make people feel they count for something goes a LONG, LONG way! One reason (amongst many) that I'm SO fanatical about Shrewsbury Town now- is that I feel that Shrewsbury Town gave me my life back! I won't go into that. Everyone has difficult times in life- and some have far worse than I've ever had. But- when I started going to matches- I felt, for the first time for ages, I was truly ALIVE. It's a great feeling. Even when I'm wracked with nerves about our team's performance and it's even kept me awake! I'm still living the excitement, the hopes, the dreams, and soaking up the great atmosphere like we had last Saturday. People have given me the opportunity to write one or two articles for B&A programmes. That means a lot to me. Some people of my age are made to feel they're almost on the scrap heap- but I sometimes feel the best times of my life are NOW!! Because of that- I've got a new lease of life in my work, too. I feel enthused and energetic and younger!!! (Not every day, of course- but most days!) I'm actually happier than when I was younger- work that out!! I've found I LOVE watching Football. I REALLY love it! T.V. Football never really did it for me. I'll watch it now, with more interest BECAUSE I can go to live matches. So- there may be people out there whose lives are ready to be turned around by being able to do something for Shrewsbury Town F.C.!! You never knoiw do you? Nobody will know unless we try to reach people, somehow!
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