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Post by timgallon on Apr 3, 2005 16:23:46 GMT 1
At the last Commercial Meeting of the Umbrella Group it was mentioned that if STFC go with MG Sportswear to produce the new home shirt (which is likley) that MG are flexible not only about the positioning of their logo but also that they could do an STFC branded logo or indeed have no branded logo at all on the shirt or future lesiurewear.
Can eveyone who reads this please vote their preference on this issue. The results will be presented and discussed at the next Commercial meeting in May.
Can a moderator please therefore pin this up on the board for a couple of weeks. Thanks.
With respect to having a STFC branded logo i know other teams have done this- Leicester City have something called Fox Lesiure. This is my preference and and an example that i think would be good would be to use our 80's Shrews logo with "ShrewsLeisure" underneath.
If this is the overall preference then we could do a vote on what STFC branding would be most popular. Please feel free to suggest any other names you think would be good in this regard.
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Post by meoleshrew2 on Apr 3, 2005 16:36:57 GMT 1
Shrews wear is the most obvious I suppose
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Post by lazyshrew on Apr 3, 2005 16:38:55 GMT 1
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Post by SeanBroseley on Apr 3, 2005 16:41:38 GMT 1
Another supplier if MGS prove with the new home shirt that it cannot up its game despite the good relationship it has with the football club.
There is a perception that the MGS brand is poor. Largely based upon its product being poor.
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Post by lazyshrew on Apr 3, 2005 16:44:48 GMT 1
Another supplier if MGS prove with the new home shirt that it cannot up its game despite the good relationship it has with the football club. There is a perception that the MGS brand is poor. Largely based upon its product being poor. It is very poor! My shirt was falling apart halfway through the first season.
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Post by hooverfoxat2 on Apr 3, 2005 16:59:17 GMT 1
Is it not possible for the board and whoever makes kit and design decisions within the club to listen to what the players say about thestandards of the kit etc. After all didn't Sedge and Tinno both come out and say just how poor it all is. The quality and finish of MGS clothing is atrocious and represents very poor value for money.
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Post by meoleshrew2 on Apr 3, 2005 17:09:41 GMT 1
MG sports have still got a contract for the next seasons kit.
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Post by Griff on Apr 3, 2005 18:02:53 GMT 1
My main concern is for the quality of the shirt to be significantly improved. Could someone show MG the blue and amber-striped Patrick shirt from 6-7 years ago and ask them to compare it with the current home and away shirts. The difference should be immediately obvious.
My Patrick shirt is still in great condition after all these years and I would love MG to make something of comparable quality.
A concern has to be loss of revenue to the club if things don't change. I bought the new away shirt last year but really didn't think it was worth £40. I fear that sales may suffer if the shirt remains of similar quality (though, conversely, could be boosted if things improve).
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Post by timgallon on Apr 3, 2005 20:12:20 GMT 1
My main concern is for the quality of the shirt to be significantly improved. Could someone show MG the blue and amber-striped Patrick shirt from 6-7 years ago and ask them to compare it with the current home and away shirts. The difference should be immediately obvious. My Patrick shirt is still in great condition after all these years and I would love MG to make something of comparable quality. A concern has to be loss of revenue to the club if things don't change. I bought the new away shirt last year but really didn't think it was worth £40. I fear that sales may suffer if the shirt remains of similar quality (though, conversely, could be boosted if things improve). Griff, as i understand it MG Sportswear actually made the Patrick shirts under licence from Patrick. PatricK may have insisted on a better spec in giving them this licence to maintain the quality of a product bearing their name. The quality of the MG products has been brought to the attention of the Club and this is something that the Club is hopefully talking to MG about. But its good to see these threads of peoples experiences and how it may influence future purchasing. When people are not thinking of spending money on Club merchandise they need to act or lose out financially.
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Post by kickinpretty on Apr 3, 2005 20:55:28 GMT 1
Anyone seen telford rugby clubs blue and amber shirt, great quality and a great design too, made by kilko or something like that.
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Apr 4, 2005 8:28:50 GMT 1
The two patrick home kits were brilliant
the kit we had when we got relegated is looking in better shape than the conference final one, despite that only being worn about half a dozen time
tacky material poor colour matching strange sizes / collars
MG have the capacity to up their game and I hope they do
because if the new kit is rubbish and people don;t buy it the board will blame us designing it, when actually the problem lies somewhere in Kidderminster
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Post by bristolloggerheads on Apr 4, 2005 8:33:06 GMT 1
No "shrews" logo for me thanks all the same. I'm still wearing my Patrick shirt to every game and haven't bought the new MGS one.
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Post by True_Shrew on Apr 4, 2005 9:11:37 GMT 1
Crap to wear, crap to play in.
Prefer using the old replica shirts when playing 5-a-side and such like but the latest MG offering is a no-no. The collar is irritating and the material is cheap. £40 for the new shirt of the same quality- no thanks STFC.
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Post by rob on Apr 4, 2005 9:34:16 GMT 1
Have to say my Argie away top was a regular fixture down the meadow and at home/about the place. Has lasted a damn site longer than most of the mg sports own branded kits....
As for shrews wear-could they not use the old club logo (of the shrew) and use it in the same style that mike use the swoosh.
That'd look pretty cool in the corner.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Apr 4, 2005 12:10:24 GMT 1
If MG Sportswear can get their act together and provide the club and supporters with the quality we expect then I think using a club sports brand is a great idea and I think the 'Shrew' badge is an ideal logo to use. I would not wish to see MG Sportswear written anywhere on the kit or leisure wear. If MG Sportswear don't improve the quality of their products then I would like to see the club move to another kit supplier (and I think the club should start the dialogue now so that they are prepared and have options available as and when needed). Also, we pay too much for MG Sportswear products, so for that reason alone I would rather see us move to another kit supplier.
So what's the score with next seasons home kit, when do the club get to see a sample? Will a sample be produced at the Umbrella meeting? What happens if the quality of the product is still not up to scratch? Can the club (would the club) send MG Sportswear back to the drawing board as it were...or do we have to take what's given? I don't just expect an improvement from MG Sportswear, I want a product that’s of the same quality of the shirts I have from Umbro, Puma and Uhlsports before I'd consider buying owt. Even a slight improvement on an MG Sportswear isn't going to reach a decent standard...a vast improvement is needed...
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Post by meoleshrew2 on Apr 4, 2005 12:31:45 GMT 1
wording is a difficult one for an own brand, how about something like 100% STFC/100% Shrews
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Post by SouthStandShrew on Apr 4, 2005 17:29:04 GMT 1
ShrewsWEAR on it? Better than MG surely, but dont MG make shirts for Patrick???
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Post by meoleshrew2 on Apr 4, 2005 17:43:44 GMT 1
ShrewsWEAR on it? Better than MG surely, but dont MG make shirts for Patrick??? They have, Patrick will have supplied/chosen the quality of material used.
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Post by timgallon on Apr 4, 2005 19:30:18 GMT 1
If MG Sportswear can get their act together and provide the club and supporters with the quality we expect then I think using a club sports brand is a great idea and I think the 'Shrew' badge is an ideal logo to use. I would not wish to see MG Sportswear written anywhere on the kit or leisure wear. If MG Sportswear don't improve the quality of their products then I would like to see the club move to another kit supplier (and I think the club should start the dialogue now so that they are prepared and have options available as and when needed). Also, we pay too much for MG Sportswear products, so for that reason alone I would rather see us move to another kit supplier. So what's the score with next seasons home kit, when do the club get to see a sample? Will a sample be produced at the Umbrella meeting? What happens if the quality of the product is still not up to scratch? Can the club (would the club) send MG Sportswear back to the drawing board as it were...or do we have to take what's given? I don't just expect an improvement from MG Sportswear, I want a product that’s of the same quality of the shirts I have from Umbro, Puma and Uhlsports before I'd consider buying owt. Even a slight improvement on an MG Sportswear isn't going to reach a decent standard...a vast improvement is needed... Stutty, the quality of MGS has been brought to the attention of Mal Whitrick who sits on the Commercial Group. At the last meeting Sean Broseley acquired a Nike Southend shirt and it this was compared to a Town MGS shirt. The difference in quality was very evident. An action from the meeting was for Mal to use the Southend as an example of the quality one of a fellow Div 2 club is getting and see how MGS respond. Ultimatley if MGS dont improve and it can be demonstrated that this is affecting sales then STFC. should look elsewhere. This thread has been good as its again showed evidence on the quality issue and how people react to it. It'll definatley be something that will be used at the next meeting.
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Post by chrisj on Apr 5, 2005 13:36:53 GMT 1
At the last Commercial Meeting of the Umbrella Group it was mentioned that if STFC go with MG Sportswear to produce the new home shirt (which is likley) that MG are flexible not only about the positioning of their logo but also that they could do an STFC branded logo or indeed have no branded logo at all on the shirt or future lesiurewear. Can eveyone who reads this please vote their preference on this issue. The results will be presented and discussed at the next Commercial meeting in May. Can a moderator please therefore pin this up on the board for a couple of weeks. Thanks. With respect to having a STFC branded logo i know other teams have done this- Leicester City have something called Fox Lesiure. This is my preference and and an example that i think would be good would be to use our 80's Shrews logo with "ShrewsLeisure" underneath. If this is the overall preference then we could do a vote on what STFC branding would be most popular. Please feel free to suggest any other names you think would be good in this regard. MG so long as they use the Patrick specs for quality. But no f***in' mouse on it please!
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Post by Carter on Apr 5, 2005 14:39:14 GMT 1
Bring back Shrewy The Shrew!!!!
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Post by chrisj on Apr 6, 2005 13:31:59 GMT 1
Bring back Shrewy The Shrew!!!! Steve Cross - Shrewy the Shrew -
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Apr 6, 2005 14:16:06 GMT 1
Tim...you mention...
Ultimately if MGS don't improve and it can be demonstrated that this is affecting sales then STFC should look elsewhere.
Indeed...but when? After another two years of this next home kit or? I very much doubt that Town would have any contingency in place for next season? Maybe MGS will get it spot on...they now have an example of the quality we expect. However, what if MGS provide us with a shirt and again we do not think the quality is up to standard? Do we send them back and ask them to improve the quality or do we have to accept until a new supplier can be arranged? Which I guess would take at least one season?
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Post by timgallon on Apr 6, 2005 21:36:57 GMT 1
Tim...you mention... Ultimately if MGS don't improve and it can be demonstrated that this is affecting sales then STFC should look elsewhere. Indeed...but when? After another two years of this next home kit or? I very much doubt that Town would have any contingency in place for next season? Maybe MGS will get it spot on...they now have an example of the quality we expect. However, what if MGS provide us with a shirt and again we do not think the quality is up to standard? Do we send them back and ask them to improve the quality or do we have to accept until a new supplier can be arranged? Which I guess would take at least one season? If the feedback on any new MGS shirt is negative (and by virtue detrimental to sales) then i guess the Commercial Group should be pushing the Club to look an alternative supplier as soon as possible. Although i have no idea if by allowing MGS to do a home shirt whether they would be tied into a two year deal for the shelf life of the shirt. Ultimatley though it is the Club's decsion. We can only recommend on what see as best for the fans as well as the Club.
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Post by bristolloggerheads on Apr 7, 2005 9:01:09 GMT 1
As I understand it the club are only tied to MGS for next season. Just because the design is normally for two seaons doesn't mean they can't change suppliers.
I'm with Chris on this - No effing mouse!
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Post by SeanBroseley on Apr 9, 2005 13:26:19 GMT 1
I think the next piece of clothing should be a retro tracksuit top based upon the design like Penny Brown's.
"Shrewswear" doesn't light my candle.
For the moment I'll settle for a quality shirt without visible branding. At some point if there isn't a step change in quality then it will be reflected in sales.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2005 11:13:50 GMT 1
Can anyone tell me how many home and away shirts have been sold? Sib?
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Post by NEWPORT SHREW on Apr 10, 2005 12:10:14 GMT 1
Some excellent comments, my own feelings are we are losing an absolute fortune commercially by having MG when compared to Patrick based on inferior quality of merchandise and the general lack of the feel good factor. The MG logo positioned any where on the kit does not tempt me to buy and certainly not on top of the club badge, I would also like to think the players would also be able to have their say in the selection as ultimately they are the ones expected to deliver the goods in what has been described as poor kit. We now have an opportunity to "market" the club in a drastically more professional manner and if decided have our own brand name, as an alternative to STFC we could even consider "SALOP" and set up Salop Leisure for merchandise.
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Post by Dale on Apr 10, 2005 20:40:02 GMT 1
To be fair the current home kit we have now was probably one of the worst and certainly most basic designs we have ever had as our home kit, the positioning of the MG branding is terrible and I'm surprised the club even said yes to MG plopping their moniker directly on top of the loggerheads. I quite liked the 'Shrewswear' idea at first but I'm being more persuaded by the 'no branding' option now, just the loggerheads on the middle of the shirt would be great.
We should look at bringing in a Nike away strip for 2006 like Stutty suggests, and then maybe looking at the possibility of bringing in Nike for the 2007 home kit, if they are producing blue and amber kits by then and if the quality of MG's products havent improved.
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Post by timgallon on Apr 11, 2005 15:02:34 GMT 1
Thanks to everyone who has voted and written about this subject. It's been most useful and will be used at the next Commercial Umbrella Group Meeting at the end of May.
I will post the Agenda and Minutes of the Meeting at the appropiate time.
This post can be unpinned by a moderator now.
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