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Post by guest on Mar 12, 2005 18:17:38 GMT 1
Why didn't we attack the game? we had nothing to lose. The second half was literally ALL Maccy, and we deserved nothing from the game.
GP says "You should win your home games" blah blah blah- Gary, when your playing as good a team as Macclesfield you should take the game to them- Simple.
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Post by wiganshrew2 on Mar 12, 2005 18:31:07 GMT 1
Nobody's happy. But Maccy were always going to be a hard one. We can't start moaning at G.P. SURELY?!!!!!!!!!!! Look what he's achieved so far. The thing is, if we were higher up the table, would we be so unhappy? I doubt it very much. We're all unhappy because we're still not safe. I feel gutted to be honest. I could cry. Mr Wiggy says there's a match on T.V. at the moment and I just said, "I don't care. I'm not interested!!" BUT- it was always a possibilty. Maybe G.P. reckoned that, in Luke's absence, it would be safer to play a defensive game. And they DID defend well,apparently. They said that for a lot of the time, Scott Howie had nothing to do because our defence was so good. If we don't look at the positives, we'll all go under- and knock the lads confidence in the process. I'm tending to think "Brace yourself for another tight match at Lincoln, then Luke will be back- and things will start to get better again." That's what I'm telling myself anyway. Otherwise I'd be miserable for the rest of the week!!
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Post by El Huracán!!!! on Mar 12, 2005 18:34:23 GMT 1
Nobody's happy. But Maccy were always going to be a hard one. We can't start moaning at G.P. SURELY?!!!!!!!!!!! Look what he's achieved so far. The thing is, if we were higher up the table, would we be so unhappy? I doubt it very much. We're all unhappy because we're still not safe. I feel gutted to be honest. I could cry. Mr Wiggy says there's a match on T.V. at the moment and I just said, "I don't care. I'm not interested!!" BUT- it was always a possibilty. Maybe G.P. reckoned that, in Luke's absence, it would be safer to play a defensive game. And they DID defend well,apparently. They said that for a lot of the time, Scott Howie had nothing to do because our defence was so good. If we don't look at the positives, we'll all go under- and knock the lads confidence in the process. I'm tending to think "Brace yourself for another tight match at Lincoln, then Luke will be back- and things will start to get better again." That's what I'm telling myself anyway. Otherwise I'd be miserable for the rest of the week!! I dont think anyone is ahving a go at GP Wiggy - but we must recognise that he got it wrong tactiacally and payed for it Hes done so well since he got here there was bound to be a blip - but Lincon away will be hard and it might be we lose more than the 3 points to Kiddy and rushden by the end of next week??? then you start to worry again Shocked that the stick Ashton today (esp when subbed) - seems some of the riverside have taken an instant dislike
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Post by telfordSHREWS on Mar 12, 2005 22:16:55 GMT 1
Why didn't we attack the game? we had nothing to lose. The second half was literally ALL Maccy, and we deserved nothing from the game. GP says "You should win your home games" blah blah blah- Gary, when your playing as good a team as Macclesfield you should take the game to them- Simple. If you were at the game you would have understood the tactics used and how unlucky we were not to get a point. Haven't looked at the league after todays result but MTFC had the chance to go 2nd, Yeovil are the top club and theres no way we would have suggested your tactics..."take the game to them- Simple"
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Post by welshshrwe on Mar 12, 2005 23:22:33 GMT 1
We lost to a deflected goal from a better side.
Simple as.
The tactics were fine.
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Post by SeanBroseley on Mar 13, 2005 0:24:18 GMT 1
The tactics were crap.
One up front at home?
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Post by blueandamber on Mar 13, 2005 0:33:17 GMT 1
I don't mean to sound like a wet sock, but we had to have a blip some time, now hopefully it's gone and we can move on. GP can't get everything pefect all the time, Yes I am disapointed with todays tactics and result, but we are still in a good position to continue pushing up the table.
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Post by MrTea on Mar 13, 2005 12:10:20 GMT 1
I think the debate over the tactics yesterday could run and run, it's split right down the middle between those who think it was a wise decision to combat their height advantage and to focus on defence, hoping to nick it at the other end, and those who think we should have attacked the game.
Personally I think you can argue it either way, we didn't really have the players available to go too attacking and for the most part we defended superbly.
Really though I think we have to be realistic, we're not good enough to be at the top of this division, but compared to where we were just a few months ago we're certainly heading there at a good pace.
Taking the positives, we defended superbly against one of the better sides in this division and did get forward as well, with Rodgers available who knows what would have happened.
All in all I don't think it's a disaster by any stretch, and to hear people criticising Gary Peters astounds me, I mean come on, everything he says is spot on and he has so far backed this up with actions, the team is playing as a unit, our defending and attacking have both improved immeasurably and tactically he's not done much wrong.
Also I think it's good that he's prepared to alter his tactics depending on the opposition, better IMHO than sticking rigidly to a formation regardless.
Anyway, I've ranted on a bit now, but the negativity bothers me sometimes.
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Post by faginy on Mar 13, 2005 12:16:45 GMT 1
good post jonny boy
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Post by telfordSHREWS on Mar 13, 2005 12:16:50 GMT 1
I think the debate over the tactics yesterday could run and run, it's split right down the middle between those who think it was a wise decision to combat their height advantage and to focus on defence, hoping to nick it at the other end, and those who think we should have attacked the game. Personally I think you can argue it either way, we didn't really have the players available to go too attacking and for the most part we defended superbly. Really though I think we have to be realistic, we're not good enough to be at the top of this division, but compared to where we were just a few months ago we're certainly heading there at a good pace. Taking the positives, we defended superbly against one of the better sides in this division and did get forward as well, with Rodgers available who knows what would have happened. All in all I don't think it's a disaster by any stretch, and to hear people criticising Gary Peters astounds me, I mean come on, everything he says is spot on and he has so far backed this up with actions, the team is playing as a unit, our defending and attacking have both improved immeasurably and tactically he's not done much wrong. Also I think it's good that he's prepared to alter his tactics depending on the opposition, better IMHO than sticking rigidly to a formation regardless. Anyway, I've ranted on a bit now, but the negativity bothers me sometimes. Fair post that I can only think of Darlo away where GP's tactics went out the window.
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Post by wibbin on Mar 13, 2005 12:28:26 GMT 1
We lost to a deflected goal from a better side. Deflected goal yes - better side no chance. I dont think either side deserved 3 points yesterday, was a very scr@ppy game during which we were marginally better although neither keeper was really called into action. Macc came for a point and luckily got 3, admittedly GP should have changed the formation earlier. Against such a big side why did we constantly try and play the ball over the top instead of on the floor. Langmead is not going to win headers and chase them down, which is why we missed Luke terribly. Lots of the Wakeman Stand moaning at Langmead being lazy but chasing down isnt his game. Strange though every time we did put a cross in the box it was always Sammy who was underneath it - not our best hope. A draw would have been a fair result yesterday and but for some petty refereeing from Mr Premiership referee we would have got a point. A very poor game after recent weeks but hopefully just a blip,
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Post by BraddersMacc on Mar 13, 2005 13:40:21 GMT 1
Was a boring game yesterday, both had few chances in the 1st half, but in the the 2nd half we (Macc) were a lot better, and thought we deserved the win, as we created a lot more, and had a lot more chances than Shrewsbury. Your winger (I think) Sam Aiston seemed to cause a great deal for us, we were after him at one point a few year ago, I can see why now. One thing that was bad about yesterday was the fish n chips, from that Chippy around the corner, 'orrible, who supplies them
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2005 16:57:04 GMT 1
The tactics were cr@p. One up front at home? But 3 attacking players. I doubt that by playing 4-4-2 would have created much more. We had enough quality possession to get a goal in the first 60 mins but Macc defended superbly. Then Parkin started to cut a bit loose and fair play to Macc, they got a bit of luck and I wouldn't call it an undeserved victory although it was harsh on us. I expect us to be safe with 4 games to play
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2005 16:58:52 GMT 1
Deflected goal yes - better side no chance. Wibbin, I meant generally rather than on the day. I said to Dad a couple of times during the game (before they scored) that the reason they are where they are is because they come out with 3 points from games like yesterday. Compare that to last week where we gave Mansfield a real spanking and we both ended up with 1 point.
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Post by skunkie on Mar 13, 2005 17:06:01 GMT 1
We lost a deflected goal against a promotion chasing side.If we had used an attackig formation we might of had the same result.If we played for a draw then we are no different to any other club in the country using negative tatics to secure a good home point in some fixtures.You pay the money and can be let down by the entertainment given by your team,thats pot luck.but at the moment GP has worked a lifeline for this club.I now hope he will be here next year,us challenging for promotion,but remember in some games one point gained is better than Three lost.
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Post by rhino on Mar 13, 2005 17:14:01 GMT 1
macclesfield dont look like a 3rd place side
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Post by skunkie on Mar 13, 2005 17:20:20 GMT 1
But not all teams that play champagne football are top of their divisions either.Man U have made a lot of silverware like Liverpool in drawing some fixtures,especially in old European two legged games.
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Post by Stevenelsonfanclub on Mar 13, 2005 17:21:41 GMT 1
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