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Post by ShrewsAde on Jan 21, 2005 21:56:18 GMT 1
Being in the building industry (Architectural side) I would estimate the completion date to be around June next year - this is based on a guess of (an optomistic) starting on site date of around March this year -
Sorry, but so many things contrive to stutter the building process - the whole industry is stretched, and the lifting of the covenent would mean working drawings for the building not starting then - the design team I guess would not even have been ready, and they can't just drop what they were doing at the time.
Was anything mentioned last night as to the progress?
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Post by d00bie on Jan 21, 2005 22:50:19 GMT 1
Initially the build time was 50+ weeks, then i heard they had got it down to something like 38 weeks!
That sounds to me like they are/were in a bit of a rush to get it done, and we all know if you start rushing mistakes get made and corners get cut which would be a shame as i'm sure they/we all want a stadium we can be proud of.
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Post by HandsOffMeadowEnjoyment on Jan 21, 2005 23:39:33 GMT 1
Initially the build time was 50+ weeks, then i heard they had got it down to something like 38 weeks! That sounds to me like they are/were in a bit of a rush to get it done, and we all know if you start rushing mistakes get made and corners get cut which would be a shame as i'm sure they/we all want a stadium we can be proud of. last night mr Sayfritz gave me the impression that the ground would be built as cheaply as possible but he did say that some of the money saved might be made available for team building.
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Post by telfordSHREWS on Jan 22, 2005 0:07:56 GMT 1
Progress has stopped , seems a cowboy attitude to me
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Post by Dale on Jan 22, 2005 0:27:12 GMT 1
I hope the ground does get completed for June 2006, I dont particularly want us to move half way thru a season, it'll be good to get one more full season at GM, I've no gripes about that as long as it IS our last season there.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2005 0:33:17 GMT 1
K Sayfritz said last night they are now hopeful that everything will be tied up for building to start sometime in February, build time has now been extended from 38 to 42 weeks with Town playing in the new stadium in January 2006.
Jennings are the driver for the stadium and want to be developing on Gay Meadow asap so a mid season move is very likely.
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Post by ShrewsAde on Jan 22, 2005 9:51:48 GMT 1
Aren't Jennings as house building company - the logistics of erecting a stadium requires different skills, it will be a case of arranging specialist sub-contractors, firstly a there is a lot of concrete bases and drainage to be installed prior to a lot of steelwork to be erected, specialist cladding systems to be designed, costed and installed for instance.
This requires a construction company with experience in this type of work really - have Jennings got that?
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Post by theriverside on Jan 22, 2005 10:16:16 GMT 1
Aren't Jennings as house building company - the logistics of erecting a stadium requires different skills, it will be a case of arranging specialist sub-contractors, firstly a there is a lot of concrete bases and drainage to be installed prior to a lot of steelwork to be erected, specialist cladding systems to be designed, costed and installed for instance. This requires a construction company with experience in this type of work really - have Jennings got that? Are Jennings building the stadium? Or have you mis-read the last post? The reference was to Jennings building the houses on the current ground................... From what I've seen the club have not considered many details that need to be thought about before the New Meadow is started. Specialists need to be brought in to tell the club what they need with regard to facilities/services IMHO, although their choice of contractor for the ground (does anyone know who this is?) may provide the necessary experience.
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Post by ShrewsAde on Jan 22, 2005 10:42:10 GMT 1
Are Jennings building the stadium? Or have you mis-read the last post? The reference was to Jennings building the houses on the current ground................... From what I've seen the club have not considered many details that need to be thought about before the New Meadow is started. Specialists need to be brought in to tell the club what they need with regard to facilities/services IMHO, although their choice of contractor for the ground (does anyone know who this is?) may provide the necessary experience. good point
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Post by faginy on Jan 22, 2005 10:43:54 GMT 1
thought it was Alaska? or have they been cut from the deal completley?
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Post by theriverside on Jan 22, 2005 10:54:30 GMT 1
thought it was Alaska? or have they been cut from the deal completley? Not sure mate. It's clear that their plans for the New Meadow would have seen us left with a Deva Stadium MkII, and at least that is being looked at even if initial changes are minimal . But I don't know whether they have been cut out of the deal or not. Would they be happy with just the land money considering the time they have put into the whole project? If they are still building it are they the right people when you consider the clear lack of know-how that has gone into the current plans? Even if they do blame the architect for what we end up with they will be happy to go along with the plans to increase their margins.
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Post by rob on Jan 22, 2005 11:00:53 GMT 1
There have been people on thsi board saying that the plans were not good enough for months now....
Can't remember who they are mind.
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Post by ianwhit on Jan 22, 2005 12:06:08 GMT 1
original plan - alaska get gay meadow in return club get new meadow built to certain specifications and land at new meadow.
now jennings will buy gay meadow for a fee, with that the club have to build new stadium on land they own at oteley road.. changes things a little with the responsibility being on the club to employee project manager, contractors etc which are all pretty much done...
rome wasn't built in a day
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2005 12:19:24 GMT 1
Judging by the comments made in the meeting the other night, the 42 weeks construction time has a good chance of being achieved because STFC have put a "late" penalty clause in the constructor's contract. Its the start date that is a bit more difficult to judge because there still seems to be a lot of things still being sorted out. Footballing wise, a start of season move would make a lot of sense but I think it will be Jennings and the GM oroject which dictates when we move
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Post by theriverside on Jan 22, 2005 12:35:58 GMT 1
original plan - alaska get gay meadow in return club get new meadow built to certain specifications and land at new meadow. now jennings will buy gay meadow for a fee, with that the club have to build new stadium on land they own at oteley road.. changes things a little with the responsibility being on the club to employee project manager, contractors etc which are all pretty much done... rome wasn't built in a day Ian is it a typo and you meant to put that Jennings are building the NEW Meadow? If so have they any experience of this sort of project before?
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Post by ianwhit on Jan 22, 2005 12:52:33 GMT 1
Ian is it a typo and you meant to put that Jennings are building the NEW Meadow? why is it a typo? jennings have bought gay meadow thus giving the club the money to build new stadium. you get someone with experience in that field to build the stadium. alaska are project managers, they had contractor lined up to build the new meadow, the club now have to agree terms with a contractor to build the new meadow..
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Post by theriverside on Jan 22, 2005 13:07:23 GMT 1
why is it a typo? jennings have bought gay meadow thus giving the club the money to build new stadium. you get someone with experience in that field to build the stadium. alaska are project managers, they had contractor lined up to build the new meadow, the club now have to agree terms with a contractor to build the new meadow.. Whoa boy I was asking if Jennings are the contractors to actually BUILD the New Meadow, the way your previous reply was worded it seemed that's what you were indicating. You've now answered my question that STFC are arranging another contractor and project manager to do this. I'll put it down to your excitement at the Poppies being back on stage
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Post by ianwhit on Jan 22, 2005 13:11:19 GMT 1
I'll put it down to your excitement at the Poppies being back on stage it's a life changing experience, just ask me snapper... didn't think it was an over the top reply... jennings build houses so it's important to get a contractor with experience of buidling houses.... jennings money funds the build, simple are that..
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2005 13:23:56 GMT 1
Alright guys, the club don't have to say who the contractors building the NM are but ofcourse they have got this issue in hand.
The Developers are the same who built Darlingtons ground and those who visit will be impressed with the quality. The reason I know this is because i know the company (Hall Construction) and key people within the organisation, and not from anyone at STFC (so you can relax Whitters). New Meadow will not be a Deva. Not eveything has been tied up just yet but i understand we are very close to seeing start on the development.
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Post by ianwhit on Jan 22, 2005 13:32:45 GMT 1
The Developers are the same who built Darlingtons ground and those who visit will be impressed with the quality. The reason I know this is because i know the company (Hall Construction) and key people within the organisation, and not from anyone at STFC (so you can relax Whitters). . outside now fox you snitch!!!!! as you say nothings been signed yet, so i won't comment on anything as things tend to change with this new ground malarky..
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Post by ShrewsAde on Jan 23, 2005 19:36:21 GMT 1
Thanks Foxie - that clears it up - good to see that a company with the correct experience is being appointed. Completion could well be done for the end of next season.
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Post by x emz x on Jan 24, 2005 11:53:13 GMT 1
Alright guys, the club don't have to say who the contractors building the NM are but ofcourse they have got this issue in hand. The Developers are the same who built Darlingtons ground and those who visit will be impressed with the quality. The reason I know this is because i know the company (Hall Construction) and key people within the organisation, and not from anyone at STFC (so you can relax Whitters). New Meadow will not be a Deva. Not eveything has been tied up just yet but i understand we are very close to seeing start on the development. ive applied for a job with them for a year long contract how exciting hehehe
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Post by ShrewsAde on Jan 24, 2005 12:07:01 GMT 1
ive applied for a job with them for a year long contract how exciting hehehe aha - an insider in our ranks
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