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Post by salop18 on Apr 13, 2024 19:14:43 GMT 1
Had to laugh at the sentence about Perry. He’s one of the worst players to pull on the blue and amber shirt and I honestly don’t think I’ve hated a player who plays for Salop so much. He’s SO frustrating to watch it makes me angry. I’m hoping Hurst finds some poor League 2/National League team to take him off our hands. Good riddance to him. No he isn't. He's not even been the worst player this season. Hard to have a sensible debate with someone who claims to hate a town player but i'll try. He lacks composure and his decision making is suspect but he has talent. He has a great shot on him, he works his ass off, he makes good runs and he has good ball control. HE IS 22 YEARS OLD. A good 5/6 years before he hits his peak. If he was the whole ticket at his age he would be nowhere near Shrewsbury town fc. Remember how rubbish we all thought Udoh was before he got here? He doesn’t give a s**t about Shrewsbury Town Football Club. He’s definitely the player who’s put in the least effort when starting most games that I’ve ever seen from a Salop player. You can tell it’s just a job to him, zero passion. Can’t stand him.
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Post by pughywasfree on Apr 13, 2024 19:15:18 GMT 1
Had to laugh at the sentence about Perry. He’s one of the worst players to pull on the blue and amber shirt and I honestly don’t think I’ve hated a player who plays for Salop so much. He’s SO frustrating to watch it makes me angry. I’m hoping Hurst finds some poor League 2/National League team to take him off our hands. Good riddance to him. I wrote off Perry early in the first friendly I saw him play , we hadn't even signed him then , headless chicken perfectly describes him TBF anyone that puts any effort in would look like a headless chicken compared the rest of the squad.
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Post by wakemanender on Apr 13, 2024 19:18:07 GMT 1
We are supporters of Shrewsbury Town FC and care. The players are not and dont. Simple as. Most wont be with us next season anyway so why would they care what division the club is in next season. Flannagan can now concentrate on holiday planning and finding a new club without fear of injury and still get paid. Will he be sad and upset tonight after being sent off and letting the club down. Very very doubtful.
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Post by pughywasfree on Apr 13, 2024 19:18:49 GMT 1
No he isn't. He's not even been the worst player this season. Hard to have a sensible debate with someone who claims to hate a town player but i'll try. He lacks composure and his decision making is suspect but he has talent. He has a great shot on him, he works his ass off, he makes good runs and he has good ball control. HE IS 22 YEARS OLD. A good 5/6 years before he hits his peak. If he was the whole ticket at his age he would be nowhere near Shrewsbury town fc. Remember how rubbish we all thought Udoh was before he got here? He doesn’t give a s**t about Shrewsbury Town Football Club. He’s definitely the player who’s put in the least effort when starting most games that I’ve ever seen from a Salop player. You can tell it’s just a job to him, zero passion. Can’t stand him. Could not disagree more about his effort. I think you will find the vast majority of players could not care less about the club they are playing for. I don't expect any player not from Shrewsbury to care about our long term success. All footballers will be grafting for themselves, to get a better contract or a bigger club. You want to moan about effort then direct it at Bayliss or Shipley who were both lazy today.
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Post by mrcricket on Apr 13, 2024 19:24:32 GMT 1
Idowu is only 22 Mata is only 23 They still have plenty of scope to develop so they could easily become effective league 1 players. It is also worth noting that that Perry is only 22 and Bloxham is only 20. If they develop their game we could make some decent money of them players. I'd like to keep Sraha who is only 21 but does not seem too far away. I was surprised to see that Nurse is only 24, seems like he has been here for ages. Hopefully he can forfil his potential and get back to his best sooner rather than later. For reference Feeney is 25, Shipley is 26 and Winchester is 31. We have the makings of a much younger squad next season. A model I can definitely get on board with. Had to laugh at the sentence about Perry. He’s one of the worst players to pull on the blue and amber shirt and I honestly don’t think I’ve hated a player who plays for Salop so much. He’s SO frustrating to watch it makes me angry. I’m hoping Hurst finds some poor League 2/National League team to take him off our hands. Good riddance to him. I actually feel quite similar about Perry as well. A complete passenger in a lot of games but Tom Bayliss was twice as bad today.
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Post by darkshrew on Apr 13, 2024 19:25:03 GMT 1
Our thanks go out to Exeter and Bristol Rovers. No thanks whatsoever to Evans' Stevenage. How the hell did Stevenage lose to Burton
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Post by northwestman on Apr 13, 2024 19:26:09 GMT 1
PH more or less agrees with us.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Apr 13, 2024 19:29:06 GMT 1
Bayliss was one of many passengers in today's game, it was so frustrating he zoned out a number of times and seemed utterly oblivious as to what was going on around him, he looked utterly fed up and could not be bothered. Which is not good enough when we are in a relegation battle.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Apr 13, 2024 19:36:47 GMT 1
If we go down then the game against Exeter, we're the ref ruined the game, our failure to beat a poor Bristol rovers after port vale beat them easily 2_ 0 and today's dismal game could be looked at as when town blew there chancesof staying up.
We are now in to Russian rolete hoping the teams below lose the last few games
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Post by mrcricket on Apr 13, 2024 19:36:57 GMT 1
30 seconds into the game and Winchester moving forward with the ball. Bayliss turned his back on him and completely zoned out.
I called out Dunkley weeks ago and whilst he wins a good header he's not a leader like we saw in Leahy today.
I did quite like Shipleys long throws. The new George Nurse.
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Post by northwestman on Apr 13, 2024 19:37:06 GMT 1
Our thanks go out to Exeter and Bristol Rovers. No thanks whatsoever to Evans' Stevenage. How the hell did Stevenage lose to Burton Like us, Stevenage had a player sent off.
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Post by akpaakpost on Apr 13, 2024 19:42:53 GMT 1
30 seconds into the game and Winchester moving forward with the ball. Bayliss turned his back on him and completely zoned out. I called out Dunkley weeks ago and whilst he wins a good header he's not a leader like we saw in Leahy today. I did quite like Shipleys long throws. The new George Nurse. I used to be a big fan of Chey Dunkley, and whilst I still appreciate his quality as a player, He’s completely lost me in the last 6 months. I found it insulting at Burton away that he was squaring up to fans in the away end for rightfully calling out one of the worst performances I’ve seen. You can see him doing the same in the video on which Jordan Shipley got a lot of attention for, which I couldn’t understand by the way, atleast Shipley understood how bad it was and made an attempt to apologise or promise for things to get better. Unlike Dunkley who was trying to make himself look intimidating for his own ego. I haven’t seen the game today at all so I can’t comment, but I imagine he’s done something else to frustrate me. Hopefully Jack Price has the armband next year.
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Post by chirkshrew on Apr 13, 2024 19:45:17 GMT 1
We signed 2 quality players in bayliss and Shipley...thats what was said when we signed them....I don't think so somehow.....never seen anything to like from them 2.....both lazy,and drift in and out of games, especially later on,and on a fair wage too.....get rid,you won't miss em.... I'd rather have a young player from the national league,who wants to prove himself,and actually run around a football pitch,and on far less money too....them 2 are cheating the club for there wages🤦🤦🤦
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Apr 13, 2024 19:49:52 GMT 1
I didn't go today. I simply couldn't be bothered.
£10 to take the two boys fishing. Had an awesome day.
That's the biggest problem for Salop. It's not about losing necessarily. It's about being dour and dire.
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Post by darkshrew on Apr 13, 2024 19:54:35 GMT 1
I honestly don’t think that the decisions on who will stay and who will go are resting on whether we stay up or not. Who we go for, yes, that will depend on whether we stay up or not but for these players I think their future is probably known:
GK Marosi – contract is up, nothing said about renewal so probably too expensive - release Burgoyne – contract is up, not a safe pair of hands - release
Defence Nurse – contract to July 2026 – cheap & real promise if he stays fit- keep Feeney – contract to July 2025 – cheap with real potential - keep Dunkley – contract is up but there is a 1 year option; too expensive – sell / release Flanagan - contract is up - probably too expensive – release Sraha – contract is up but there is a 1 year option – cheap with potential - extend Benning - contract is up - reliable, cheap and only 31 – new 1 yr contract
Midfield Shipley – contract to July 2025 – inconsistent and too expensive – sell Bayliss - contract is up but there is a 1 year option; inconsistent & too expensive – sell / release Winchester - contract to July 2025 – versatile and tries; hopefully not too expensive - keep Perry – contract to July 2025 – cheap with potential – keep Idowu – contract to July 2026 – cheap with potential – keep Sobowale - contract is up but there is a 1 year option – cheap with promise – extend Bennett – contract is up – class act but 35 – offer player coach role Price – no contract – class act but 31 and big injury concerns – offer pay per play
Attack Udoh – contract is up and he is not signing renewal – give him a deadline to sign Bloxham – contract to July 2025 – cheap with potential – keep Bowman – contract is up – amazed he was renewed last year – release O’Brien – contract is up – there is a player there but not worth the risk, expensive – release Mata – contract to July 26 - cheap with potential – keep Tulloch – contract is up – cheap but not in squad even when fit & squad bare - release
That leaves us needing more than 10 new players:
GK – need two new keepers DL – Nurse / Benning DCL – Sraha / Need another CB DCR – Feeney / Need cover DR – Need new RB & cover DM – Winchester / Bennett / Price MC – Need new MC / Perry / Idowu MC – Need new MC & back up AML – Need new AML & back up AMR – Bloxham / Sobowale ST – Need new ST / Mata
We desperately need a midfielder who can control the show a la Nolan / Kelly – I honestly thought that would be Bayliss and I don’t know why it isn’t, but it isn’t.
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Post by mrcricket on Apr 13, 2024 20:08:04 GMT 1
There is still perhaps a huge discord with the Cotterill signing, who whilst are good quality know that most of them are out of the door in a few weeks time.
Merge that with the mediocrity of the Moore/Taylor signings and its a recipe for disaster.
I've heard that Marosi is already looking elsewhere and there is a Championship club looking to sign him.
I think Flanagan, Pierre, Sraha and Benning could have been playing for one contract, Personally I think Flanagan was the best of the lot but he's blown that today.
Amazing that Jack Price comes on for a 3 minute cameo, There is a lot of sentiment there and I'm sure he was once a good player but I'm not sure it should be all that fairytale stuff.
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Post by chirkshrew on Apr 13, 2024 20:08:56 GMT 1
Bayliss🤣😂.....no desire,no bottle,no energy.....get rid as soon as.....and Hurst will,I have no doubt
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Post by onthepitch on Apr 13, 2024 20:09:20 GMT 1
My comments on Shipley and Baylis were labelled ridiculous by some after the Blackpool game... and yet I think sadly I'm being proved right as the games go by. A nice flick every couple of games or wonder goal a season isn't the return we needed from these two. Both dire today!
As for Perry. I can't fault him. At the start of the season he was not good enough and he still isn't quite at the level in my opinion. But, he runs all day long and has developed a lot since he first arrived. I dont see it as being his fault he's played so many games when maybe he should be a squad player.
Anyway, what a terrible performance today? ...
It was a bit windy, but that shouldn't have stopped them. I still believe 3 points today was achievable had they approached the game with a bit more zest! ... Hurst needed to change it at half time imo. Liven them up... I'd have brought O'brien on, or Sobowale perhaps.
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Post by chirkshrew on Apr 13, 2024 20:12:19 GMT 1
At least 10 need to go......there will be many players available in the summer.....free transfers,and Hurst will use the loan market...and hopefully can pick a few bargains up along the way👍👍
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Post by onthepitch on Apr 13, 2024 20:17:45 GMT 1
Are we certain Price plans to stay?
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Post by cabanas2017 on Apr 13, 2024 20:25:29 GMT 1
Marosi would be a huge loss , even if his kicking is awful. Getting someone as good is unlikely I think.
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Post by davycrockett on Apr 13, 2024 20:31:30 GMT 1
Funny how for the first half of the season most thought the players were too good to get relegated and our poor position was down to the inexperienced managers tactics. Change the manager to one with more experience and now the players are rubbish almost to a man.
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Post by pughywasfree on Apr 13, 2024 20:47:37 GMT 1
I honestly don’t think that the decisions on who will stay and who will go are resting on whether we stay up or not. Who we go for, yes, that will depend on whether we stay up or not but for these players I think their future is probably known: GK Marosi – contract is up, nothing said about renewal so probably too expensive - release Burgoyne – contract is up, not a safe pair of hands - release Defence Nurse – contract to July 2026 – cheap & real promise if he stays fit- keep Feeney – contract to July 2025 – cheap with real potential - keep Dunkley – contract is up but there is a 1 year option; too expensive – sell / release Flanagan - contract is up - probably too expensive – release Sraha – contract is up but there is a 1 year option – cheap with potential - extend Benning - contract is up - reliable, cheap and only 31 – new 1 yr contract Midfield Shipley – contract to July 2025 – inconsistent and too expensive – sell Bayliss - contract is up but there is a 1 year option; inconsistent & too expensive – sell / release Winchester - contract to July 2025 – versatile and tries; hopefully not too expensive - keep Perry – contract to July 2025 – cheap with potential – keep Idowu – contract to July 2026 – cheap with potential – keep Sobowale - contract is up but there is a 1 year option – cheap with promise – extend Bennett – contract is up – class act but 35 – offer player coach role Price – no contract – class act but 31 and big injury concerns – offer pay per play Attack Udoh – contract is up and he is not signing renewal – give him a deadline to sign Bloxham – contract to July 2025 – cheap with potential – keep Bowman – contract is up – amazed he was renewed last year – release O’Brien – contract is up – there is a player there but not worth the risk, expensive – release Mata – contract to July 26 - cheap with potential – keep Tulloch – contract is up – cheap but not in squad even when fit & squad bare - release That leaves us needing more than 10 new players: GK – need two new keepers DL – Nurse / Benning DCL – Sraha / Need another CB DCR – Feeney / Need cover DR – Need new RB & cover DM – Winchester / Bennett / Price MC – Need new MC / Perry / Idowu MC – Need new MC & back up AML – Need new AML & back up AMR – Bloxham / Sobowale ST – Need new ST / Mata We desperately need a midfielder who can control the show a la Nolan / Kelly – I honestly thought that would be Bayliss and I don’t know why it isn’t, but it isn’t. I cant see Burgoyne going. He is clearly on a cheap wage and has been ok this season when needed, I also believe he is good in the dressing room. I'd keep him. I think Shipley will be re-signed. He is a quality player on his day. I doubt Nurse or Feeney are cheap.
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Post by pughywasfree on Apr 13, 2024 20:50:02 GMT 1
Are we certain Price plans to stay? Its more a case of him trying to earn a contract rather than him deciding if he wants to say. Regardless its almost certain he will be here next season.
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Post by onthepitch on Apr 13, 2024 20:51:11 GMT 1
Funny how for the first half of the season most thought the players were too good to get relegated and our poor position was down to the inexperienced managers tactics. Change the manager to one with more experience and now the players are rubbish almost to a man. It's been a pretty awful season, as a group they've struggled in attack, in midfield and also in defence... what do you expect? 🤣
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Post by pughywasfree on Apr 13, 2024 20:52:02 GMT 1
Funny how for the first half of the season most thought the players were too good to get relegated and our poor position was down to the inexperienced managers tactics. Change the manager to one with more experience and now the players are rubbish almost to a man. TBF it was had to judge the players ability when our tactics were to hoof it forward at every opportunity. Since trying to play football the flaws have been there to see. I actually think we have some decent quality in the squad, its the terrible fitness and p**s poor mentality that has been our downfall.
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Post by randomtictacs on Apr 13, 2024 20:57:30 GMT 1
Quality deficit - all round. An abject lesson in how you don't go about beating a tired team on a blustery day.
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Post by mrcricket on Apr 13, 2024 20:58:06 GMT 1
Such a terrible squad that Jack Price was signed (a guy who can managed 45 Minutes of Football in the course of Five Games), yet is better than anything else out there.
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Post by onthepitch on Apr 13, 2024 20:58:17 GMT 1
Are we certain Price plans to stay? Its more a case of him trying to earn a contract rather than him deciding if he wants to say. Regardless its almost certain he will be here next season. Hope you are right, but if he can get a better deal elsewhere I reckon he'll be off.
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Post by Pilch on Apr 13, 2024 21:05:56 GMT 1
Marosi would be a huge loss , even if his kicking is awful. Getting someone as good is unlikely I think. for the money he is on, he's poor value for money
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